radiator flush @ 30K miles?
05-18-2003, 12:51 PM
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radiator flush @ 30K miles?
My dealer's 30K service recommends to change coolant @30K miles, and also change brake fluid.
Is it really necessary? I thought it can wait till 45K miles. I am trying to cut coners to bring my bill down.....
Is it really necessary? I thought it can wait till 45K miles. I am trying to cut coners to bring my bill down.....
05-18-2003, 01:07 PM
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No, my dealer has only the brake fluid flush, which includes the ABS, but nothing about coolant. I think he just wants to collect some extra money from you.
By the way the 30,000 mile service by me (Long Island) is $260. Whole bunch of stuff that they do.
By the way the 30,000 mile service by me (Long Island) is $260. Whole bunch of stuff that they do.
05-18-2003, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by frainc
No, my dealer has only the brake fluid flush, which includes the ABS, but nothing about coolant. I think he just wants to collect some extra money from you.
By the way the 30,000 mile service by me (Long Island) is $260. Whole bunch of stuff that they do.
No, my dealer has only the brake fluid flush, which includes the ABS, but nothing about coolant. I think he just wants to collect some extra money from you.
By the way the 30,000 mile service by me (Long Island) is $260. Whole bunch of stuff that they do.
Service Manual says to change Coolant the first time at 45K miles or 3 years, and then change it every 30K after that.
Brake fluid is every 45K miles or 3 years.
Sure, it does not hurt to change.... but I think those two can wait till 45K miles?
Do other dealers recommend changing brake & coolant fluids @ 30K miles?
05-19-2003, 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by russianDude
thats something new, on my 2001 it says 45K miles/3 yrs
thats something new, on my 2001 it says 45K miles/3 yrs
Oh, and sorry I accidentally edited your post when trying to reply......
05-19-2003, 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by pianoman41
Correct. To keep up with other manufacturers, Acura went to the "no scheduled maintenence" (other than oil/filter/wear items) until 105K miles starting with the 2002 model year. Just remember that for all these 30/60/90K services. By Acura's own writing, none of the big stuff has to be done until 105K.
Oh, and sorry I accidentally edited your post when trying to reply......
Correct. To keep up with other manufacturers, Acura went to the "no scheduled maintenence" (other than oil/filter/wear items) until 105K miles starting with the 2002 model year. Just remember that for all these 30/60/90K services. By Acura's own writing, none of the big stuff has to be done until 105K.
Oh, and sorry I accidentally edited your post when trying to reply......
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Originally posted by russianDude
So what is different between 2001 and 2002, do they use different fluid? I don't see what could actually change between 2001 and 2002...
So what is different between 2001 and 2002, do they use different fluid? I don't see what could actually change between 2001 and 2002...
I also own a 97 Maxima with the 3.0 V6 engine. The platinum plugs were rated for 60,000 miles. Same with the coolant. When the '99 model came out, it had the exact same engine but suddenly the plugs, coolant and other serviceable parts didn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles (in part because of Ford/Chevy having 100,000 mile first-tune-up vehicles, I'm sure). Same part numbers for coolant and plugs on both vehicles. That's marketing and engineering disagreeing at its best. FWIW, I flushed the coolant and changed the plugs on the Maxima at 100,000 miles and it's no worse for wear.
05-20-2003, 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by pianoman41
I doubt there is any difference. Marketing being what it is, and Honda having such efficient cooling systems, there probably is no difference unless the coolant itself is of a different chemical composition. I don't think there are any hardware differences.
I also own a 97 Maxima with the 3.0 V6 engine. The platinum plugs were rated for 60,000 miles. Same with the coolant. When the '99 model came out, it had the exact same engine but suddenly the plugs, coolant and other serviceable parts didn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles (in part because of Ford/Chevy having 100,000 mile first-tune-up vehicles, I'm sure). Same part numbers for coolant and plugs on both vehicles. That's marketing and engineering disagreeing at its best. FWIW, I flushed the coolant and changed the plugs on the Maxima at 100,000 miles and it's no worse for wear.
I doubt there is any difference. Marketing being what it is, and Honda having such efficient cooling systems, there probably is no difference unless the coolant itself is of a different chemical composition. I don't think there are any hardware differences.
I also own a 97 Maxima with the 3.0 V6 engine. The platinum plugs were rated for 60,000 miles. Same with the coolant. When the '99 model came out, it had the exact same engine but suddenly the plugs, coolant and other serviceable parts didn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles (in part because of Ford/Chevy having 100,000 mile first-tune-up vehicles, I'm sure). Same part numbers for coolant and plugs on both vehicles. That's marketing and engineering disagreeing at its best. FWIW, I flushed the coolant and changed the plugs on the Maxima at 100,000 miles and it's no worse for wear.
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DOT 3 and DOT 4 brake fluid are hygroscopic - they absorb moisture. As brake fluid absorbs moisture is darkens. New brake fluid will look like apple juice, but can get to look black if neglected.
Yes - you should definitely get the brake fluid changed, but the easy way of knowing when to do that is by looking at the color of the fluid. I personally would thnk about changing mine when it starts to have a color around Sam Adams beer (or darker). Any longer than that and you risk corrosion in the system's internals and possible brake lock (the water in the fluid boils in the brake calipers on hard stops and causes them to lock).
Changine the fluid based on mileage doesn't seem to be that good of a measure. I'm sure my Florida TL's brake fluid absorbs moisture much faster than a New Mexico TL.
Yes - you should definitely get the brake fluid changed, but the easy way of knowing when to do that is by looking at the color of the fluid. I personally would thnk about changing mine when it starts to have a color around Sam Adams beer (or darker). Any longer than that and you risk corrosion in the system's internals and possible brake lock (the water in the fluid boils in the brake calipers on hard stops and causes them to lock).
Changine the fluid based on mileage doesn't seem to be that good of a measure. I'm sure my Florida TL's brake fluid absorbs moisture much faster than a New Mexico TL.
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