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07-25-2003, 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by fortunate
Believe that. When I tried to put my TL-S up for sale, one of they buyers straight up asked about my transmission and if it had been replaced :p
Believe that. When I tried to put my TL-S up for sale, one of they buyers straight up asked about my transmission and if it had been replaced :p
07-25-2003, 06:38 PM
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Stillen = Comptech
Nismo = Mugen = Mazdaspeed = TRD
But MazdaSpeed and Nismo in North America is a seperate entity. They only take suggestions and some parts from their Japanese counterpart. For example, Mazdaspeed Protege actually use Callaway's turbo.
Nismo does have a SCharger for VQ35DE but only for the Z for now. It doesn't fit Alty or Maxima
Back to the topic, racing an Alty 3.5 and TL-S with auto trannies should be neck to neck. 5 speed should blow any 03 or older TL away. I know because I own one.
Alty is rated 240HP in 02 and 245HP in 03. But everybody knows any Nissan with the standard non-tuned VQ35DE engine produces 260HP/246tq. Take the Maxima and Alty on the dyno and the curves and numbers are indenticial.
And it's not that expensive to get 1 anymore. I bought mine with same equipment level as a TL-S non-Navi for around $31kcdn ($20.6kUS). That's a lot of performance for the $$$.
Yeah, yeah, interior is not as good as TL but if you take a 2nd look in an 03 Alty from the last 3-4 month, only the doors are sub-par. Everything else looks ok, not as bad as 02's.
Nismo = Mugen = Mazdaspeed = TRD
But MazdaSpeed and Nismo in North America is a seperate entity. They only take suggestions and some parts from their Japanese counterpart. For example, Mazdaspeed Protege actually use Callaway's turbo.
Nismo does have a SCharger for VQ35DE but only for the Z for now. It doesn't fit Alty or Maxima
Back to the topic, racing an Alty 3.5 and TL-S with auto trannies should be neck to neck. 5 speed should blow any 03 or older TL away. I know because I own one.
Alty is rated 240HP in 02 and 245HP in 03. But everybody knows any Nissan with the standard non-tuned VQ35DE engine produces 260HP/246tq. Take the Maxima and Alty on the dyno and the curves and numbers are indenticial.
And it's not that expensive to get 1 anymore. I bought mine with same equipment level as a TL-S non-Navi for around $31kcdn ($20.6kUS). That's a lot of performance for the $$$.
Yeah, yeah, interior is not as good as TL but if you take a 2nd look in an 03 Alty from the last 3-4 month, only the doors are sub-par. Everything else looks ok, not as bad as 02's.
07-25-2003, 09:06 PM
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OK! To everyone on this thread.....listen up! I had a post on the last page that expressed my personal opinion of a testdrive of a 3.5 Alty(it was not good) And of couse someone took offense to it!
SORRY
But you can't tell me that if you took a car on a testdrive and you put it in PARK and it rolls back 10 feet before you could pull the E-Brake and save the Salesmans JOB......that you would not think that it was of poor craftsmanship...(A.K.A) SH*t
Again SORRY!! Last time i knew i was in USA and entitled to my own opinion!
SORRY
But you can't tell me that if you took a car on a testdrive and you put it in PARK and it rolls back 10 feet before you could pull the E-Brake and save the Salesmans JOB......that you would not think that it was of poor craftsmanship...(A.K.A) SH*t
Again SORRY!! Last time i knew i was in USA and entitled to my own opinion!
07-26-2003, 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by FugittiveTLS`03
OK! To everyone on this thread.....listen up! I had a post on the last page that expressed my personal opinion of a testdrive of a 3.5 Alty(it was not good) And of couse someone took offense to it!
SORRY
But you can't tell me that if you took a car on a testdrive and you put it in PARK and it rolls back 10 feet before you could pull the E-Brake and save the Salesmans JOB......that you would not think that it was of poor craftsmanship...(A.K.A) SH*t
Again SORRY!! Last time i knew i was in USA and entitled to my own opinion!
OK! To everyone on this thread.....listen up! I had a post on the last page that expressed my personal opinion of a testdrive of a 3.5 Alty(it was not good) And of couse someone took offense to it!
SORRY
But you can't tell me that if you took a car on a testdrive and you put it in PARK and it rolls back 10 feet before you could pull the E-Brake and save the Salesmans JOB......that you would not think that it was of poor craftsmanship...(A.K.A) SH*t
Again SORRY!! Last time i knew i was in USA and entitled to my own opinion!
07-27-2003, 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by TimN88
265hp
265hp
07-27-2003, 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by r10apple
There is an annoying @$$hole on a-cl, Tom2, that just goads everyone about everything...Kinda like your little story, I told him he'd be a lot better off in life if someone just came along and cornholed him and of course, things just took off from there.
There is an annoying @$$hole on a-cl, Tom2, that just goads everyone about everything...Kinda like your little story, I told him he'd be a lot better off in life if someone just came along and cornholed him and of course, things just took off from there.
Got get 'em r10!
07-27-2003, 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by arlan
no, thats altima's torque number (some owner pointed that out previously), still 240 hp is 15 more than 90% of tl's out there, which are non type-s.
no, thats altima's torque number (some owner pointed that out previously), still 240 hp is 15 more than 90% of tl's out there, which are non type-s.
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Ok, I don't know anything about "smokin" somebody in one car or the other, although I have had my share of "smokin" days. But, I just traded in my 2002 Altima 2.5S and let me say that little 4 cylinder with 170HP is a nice car. I only traded it because some lady with a ML320 smacked me in the parking lot and I just felt the car was now tainted. I am sure you guys know what I am talking about.
I drove the 3.5SE as well and it is a sweet ride, but overall, including the luxuries, I think the TL is the better buy. I do have to give Nissan credit for producing a great ride with nice power. The interior needs some work, although it is roomy as hell, and a navi option would be nice.
MHO.
Sal
I drove the 3.5SE as well and it is a sweet ride, but overall, including the luxuries, I think the TL is the better buy. I do have to give Nissan credit for producing a great ride with nice power. The interior needs some work, although it is roomy as hell, and a navi option would be nice.
MHO.
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08-06-2003, 05:32 PM
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at speeds over 60 mph, acceleration is not dependent on weight alone.
Aerodynamic drag has the greatest influence.
In particular, you expend a certain amount of the engine hp to overcome the drag, and only have the additional portion to peak hp for acceleration.
The biggest reason he was able to tailgate is that you were in front and let him catch up. He was drafting.
At over 100 mph nobody can "smoke" anybody. Drag sucks up hp geometrically.
Aerodynamic drag has the greatest influence.
In particular, you expend a certain amount of the engine hp to overcome the drag, and only have the additional portion to peak hp for acceleration.
The biggest reason he was able to tailgate is that you were in front and let him catch up. He was drafting.
At over 100 mph nobody can "smoke" anybody. Drag sucks up hp geometrically.
08-07-2003, 09:06 AM
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Well, if this thread won't die...
SergeyM:
I've been "smoked" by a C32 over 80 before...I was messing around besdie my dad in his '03 911 Turbo and got really "smoked" over a 100mph...
janik, that was just a silly thing to say...
SergeyM:
I've been "smoked" by a C32 over 80 before...I was messing around besdie my dad in his '03 911 Turbo and got really "smoked" over a 100mph...janik, that was just a silly thing to say...
08-07-2003, 10:36 PM
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I HAVE NO PROBELM SMOKING A NEW MAXIMA OR THE ALTIMA SE...AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEATEN AND MY CAR IS STOCK!!
I HAVE NO PROBELM SMOKING A NEW MAXIMA OR THE ALTIMA SE...AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEATEN AND MY CAR IS STOCK!!
08-07-2003, 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by SatinSilverAV6
No you haven't. Your car is not capable (in stock form) of beating a 2002+ Altima or Maxima. They have 15HP and 30+HP more and those cars weigh less. You also only have a 4-speed auto. You also will lose to my accord!
No you haven't. Your car is not capable (in stock form) of beating a 2002+ Altima or Maxima. They have 15HP and 30+HP more and those cars weigh less. You also only have a 4-speed auto. You also will lose to my accord!
08-08-2003, 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by phat32
DO U HAVE A TYPE S B/C I HAVE NO PROBELM SMOKING A NEW MAXIMA OR THE ALTIMA SE...AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEATEN AND MY CAR IS STOCK!!
DO U HAVE A TYPE S B/C I HAVE NO PROBELM SMOKING A NEW MAXIMA OR THE ALTIMA SE...AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEATEN AND MY CAR IS STOCK!!
08-08-2003, 05:41 AM
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Hmm, i bought a second hand TL-P .. why? because i have to afford a house, two other cars and an airplane.. Sure, if i dumped the S2000 and the Cessna, i could buy myself a lovely top-of-the-line M5 or something to that extend. Obviously, i didn't 
After my wife had me spent nearly $44k on a MDX for her, the S2000 we bought for fun driving and the $11k engine overhaul on the old lady Cessna.. there's not much left of the budget Mortgage on a $720,000 house in LA isn't cheap either.
We drive what we can afford, but what you can afford is often a compromise between a lot of factors!
On the Altima vs TL .. who cares whose wiener is bigger and/or faster... In the end, the TL is a much nicer car than an Altima. And most women prefer slower over faster in the wiener department
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After my wife had me spent nearly $44k on a MDX for her, the S2000 we bought for fun driving and the $11k engine overhaul on the old lady Cessna.. there's not much left of the budget
Mortgage on a $720,000 house in LA isn't cheap either.We drive what we can afford, but what you can afford is often a compromise between a lot of factors!
On the Altima vs TL .. who cares whose wiener is bigger and/or faster... In the end, the TL is a much nicer car than an Altima. And most women prefer slower over faster in the wiener department
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at speeds over 60 mph, acceleration is not dependent on weight alone.Aerodynamic drag has the greatest influence.
In particular, you expend a certain amount of the engine hp to overcome the drag, and only have the additional portion to peak hp for acceleration.
The biggest reason he was able to tailgate is that you were in front and let him catch up. He was drafting.
At over 100 mph nobody can "smoke" anybody. Drag sucks up hp geometrically.
In particular, you expend a certain amount of the engine hp to overcome the drag, and only have the additional portion to peak hp for acceleration.
The biggest reason he was able to tailgate is that you were in front and let him catch up. He was drafting.
At over 100 mph nobody can "smoke" anybody. Drag sucks up hp geometrically.
DO U HAVE A TYPE S B/C I HAVE NO PROBELM SMOKING A NEW MAXIMA OR THE ALTIMA SE...AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEATEN AND MY CAR IS STOCK!!
actually i have an 03 type s and i have 5 gears...second of all i will not lose to an accord...accords are for people who cant afford tl's or cl's...plus i already raced my boys 02 maxima se 6sp and he lost...ill give u his number so u can talk to him if u want...and on a second note..if i lose in my stock tl ill go home and get my turbo integra...so suck it up ur accord aint sh*t!
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how are u fagets gonna tell me what i have beaten......who carea about a taurus......my integra runs consistant 12.2-12.4 on drag radials at 17 lbs..i can easily turn it up to about 22 and run 11's on slicks...
the accord is a cheaper version of a tl...everyone knows it....look at the sticker price faggets...it might have some of the same parts but i doesnt have the same resale value..look at a 99accord ex,,,and look at a 99 tl.....accords suck.......so does people that buy honda's and come to acura forums and wish they can afford a 33k acura...
nissans are nice cars but not as nice as acuras.....just let it be known,,,,,i'd rather buy a 32k tl before i buy a 32k maxima that resales lik sh*t......
the accord is a cheaper version of a tl...everyone knows it....look at the sticker price faggets...it might have some of the same parts but i doesnt have the same resale value..look at a 99accord ex,,,and look at a 99 tl.....accords suck.......so does people that buy honda's and come to acura forums and wish they can afford a 33k acura...
nissans are nice cars but not as nice as acuras.....just let it be known,,,,,i'd rather buy a 32k tl before i buy a 32k maxima that resales lik sh*t......
08-08-2003, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by r10apple
phat32, you are 0 for 2. Before striking out, it's: faggot, okay?
I bet your Integra really 'smokes'...
phat32, you are 0 for 2. Before striking out, it's: faggot, okay?
I bet your Integra really 'smokes'...
08-08-2003, 01:05 PM
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Good lord, phat...It is wayyyyy tooooo easy to get you worked up...Besides, when talking about "faggots" and "smoking", maybe tight isn't the best word to use...
And I wouldn't bet on it. I'm soooooo tight that I'm really toit!
08-08-2003, 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by phat32
actually i have an 03 type s and i have 5 gears...second of all i will not lose to an accord...accords are for people who cant afford tl's or cl's...plus i already raced my boys 02 maxima se 6sp and he lost...ill give u his number so u can talk to him if u want...and on a second note..if i lose in my stock tl ill go home and get my turbo integra...so suck it up ur accord aint sh*t!:thefinger
actually i have an 03 type s and i have 5 gears...second of all i will not lose to an accord...accords are for people who cant afford tl's or cl's...plus i already raced my boys 02 maxima se 6sp and he lost...ill give u his number so u can talk to him if u want...and on a second note..if i lose in my stock tl ill go home and get my turbo integra...so suck it up ur accord aint sh*t!:thefinger
But its about my car and yours. Not your gay integra!! Your Stock TL-S is slower than a 6speed Max!!! Plus your 4th gear sucks where mine is much shorter (therefore I will whoop your ass even worse there!!!)
08-08-2003, 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by phat32
how are u fagets gonna tell me what i have beaten......who carea about a taurus......my integra runs consistant 12.2-12.4 on drag radials at 17 lbs..i can easily turn it up to about 22 and run 11's on slicks...
the accord is a cheaper version of a tl...everyone knows it....look at the sticker price faggets...it might have some of the same parts but i doesnt have the same resale value..look at a 99accord ex,,,and look at a 99 tl.....accords suck.......so does people that buy honda's and come to acura forums and wish they can afford a 33k acura...
nissans are nice cars but not as nice as acuras.....just let it be known,,,,,i'd rather buy a 32k tl before i buy a 32k maxima that resales lik sh*t......
how are u fagets gonna tell me what i have beaten......who carea about a taurus......my integra runs consistant 12.2-12.4 on drag radials at 17 lbs..i can easily turn it up to about 22 and run 11's on slicks...
the accord is a cheaper version of a tl...everyone knows it....look at the sticker price faggets...it might have some of the same parts but i doesnt have the same resale value..look at a 99accord ex,,,and look at a 99 tl.....accords suck.......so does people that buy honda's and come to acura forums and wish they can afford a 33k acura...
nissans are nice cars but not as nice as acuras.....just let it be known,,,,,i'd rather buy a 32k tl before i buy a 32k maxima that resales lik sh*t......
Nissans are not very nice. Just fast and sporty. Cheap parts and materials for the Altima and the maxima is even worse for the 5th gen.
08-08-2003, 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by SatinSilverAV6
Hey guys don't get me wrong in this forum. I love the TL-S and that is why I am here. PHAT32 went wrong when he said my car sucked. The resale value is just as the TL. In fact both TL and Accord have the best resale value next to Mercedes.
Hey guys don't get me wrong in this forum. I love the TL-S and that is why I am here. PHAT32 went wrong when he said my car sucked. The resale value is just as the TL. In fact both TL and Accord have the best resale value next to Mercedes.
and guys why do people always try to bring other peoples cars in things...what do u have that is better than my tl.....what do u have that is faster than my integra...? you dont have nothin thats why u went to what ur boy has...f*ck ur boy and u too!!
08-08-2003, 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by phat32
my biggest question is why do u have an accord and ur on the acura forum....go to honda-tech or somethin...second of all i didnt buy my tl to race it ..i just posted that i have beaten a 02 maxima auto just like my car..i dont have a manual....and ok ur car can beat mine but is it nicer....uhhh ??? i dont think i have to answer that question....
and guys why do people always try to bring other peoples cars in things...what do u have that is better than my tl.....what do u have that is faster than my integra...? you dont have nothin thats why u went to what ur boy has...f*ck ur boy and u too!!
my biggest question is why do u have an accord and ur on the acura forum....go to honda-tech or somethin...second of all i didnt buy my tl to race it ..i just posted that i have beaten a 02 maxima auto just like my car..i dont have a manual....and ok ur car can beat mine but is it nicer....uhhh ??? i dont think i have to answer that question....
and guys why do people always try to bring other peoples cars in things...what do u have that is better than my tl.....what do u have that is faster than my integra...? you dont have nothin thats why u went to what ur boy has...f*ck ur boy and u too!!
and you had to bring your gay integra into this when it was about TLS and Maxima and Accord. So your a hypicrite (shut up!)
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Dudes, what is up with this "yours is better than mine deal" good grief. You guys sound like your 12 years old, how old are you guys anyway? Bottom line, you have a TLS because there were aspects of it you liked over the 03" Accord V-6 and that is it. My budget was a little bigger so I chose the better car for my money the TLS. If I was working with a smaller budget I defintely would have gotten the Accord hands down. It's the best in it's class as far as I'm concerned. In the end, both of our cars kick butt I don't care what anyone says.
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Originally posted by SatinSilverAV6
You have memory seats and I don't but I have dual Zone Climate control and you don't we both have HID's and we both have Honda's.
You have memory seats and I don't but I have dual Zone Climate control and you don't we both have HID's and we both have Honda's.
Although with everything I know now, I wish I'd just spent the few extra bucks a month and gotten a G35 Coupe, and gotten a proper RWD platform to begin with (Next time I'm not listening to my wife... Yeah right.)
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Those two should just meet in person with a measuring stick, whip 'em out and measure 'em, and proceed to the nearest beer drinking contest for the next competition...
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After reading thru this thread, it's funny how most of us faced the same situation before buying the TL/TLS/AV6. I was in the market for a '03 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE. But at that time (mid-July), it was impossible to find a white w/black leather, 5spd, HIDs, ABS (basically the "Leather Sport Package w/ ABS option). So I started looking into the '04 MAX w/ 6spd. The problem was the dealers in my region couldn't locate a 6spd w/ "Driver's Preferred Package" in the color Silver w/Blk lthr or Blue w/Gry lthr. I was like "holy jeepers Batman". Finally, I went to check out the '03 TL-S at the local Acura dealer. I ended up buying an Anthracite w/o Navi and I tell ya, I couldn't be happier. My favorite color, HIDs, and most importantly, memory seats (I'm about 6', my wife is 5'1) and I was sold. BUT, before all this, I was eyeballing the '03 Infinity G35 cpe, Diamond Graphite w/Graphite lthr, Aero Sports Package, 6MT. Since we're planning on starting a family, I figured the coupe was out of the question. Damn, Damn, Damn! Well, here's a summary:
'03 Altima 3.5 SE: Pros- drives pretty smooth, nice torquey motor, good interior and trunk space. Cons- rougher ride, taillights are a little trendy, and that arms rest just blows! You'll know what I mean if you've driven one...
'04 Maxima 3.5 SE: Pros- drives smooth, plenty of interior space, 6spd. Cons- notchy 6spd, tiny rear glass, too small of a wing...
'03 G35 Cpe: Pros- smooth acceleration, short-shift 6spd, Lovely body lines, but you gotta have the wing(Aero Package). Cons- tight rear seating(but it's a coupe), small trunk (it's a coupe)...
'03 TL-S - Enuf said! Wish it was a 6spd and had a compass on the rear view. Oh yeah, auto locking doors after 15mph would have been nice as well.
Four weeks and 1200 miles later, I'm a happy camper! Manufactured in 05/03, so hopefully the Tranny issue has been addressed. Sorry for the long post guys; I just had to vent and clear things up in my head. Later...
'03 Altima 3.5 SE: Pros- drives pretty smooth, nice torquey motor, good interior and trunk space. Cons- rougher ride, taillights are a little trendy, and that arms rest just blows! You'll know what I mean if you've driven one...
'04 Maxima 3.5 SE: Pros- drives smooth, plenty of interior space, 6spd. Cons- notchy 6spd, tiny rear glass, too small of a wing...
'03 G35 Cpe: Pros- smooth acceleration, short-shift 6spd, Lovely body lines, but you gotta have the wing(Aero Package). Cons- tight rear seating(but it's a coupe), small trunk (it's a coupe)...
'03 TL-S - Enuf said! Wish it was a 6spd and had a compass on the rear view. Oh yeah, auto locking doors after 15mph would have been nice as well.
Four weeks and 1200 miles later, I'm a happy camper! Manufactured in 05/03, so hopefully the Tranny issue has been addressed. Sorry for the long post guys; I just had to vent and clear things up in my head. Later...
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My 02 cents
I just traded in my 02 Max SE for the 03 TL-S - things I notice (not as a street racer or time trial boi or even a red light racer) -
02 MAX - it felt like a V8 - neck snapping in your face off the line omph (and torque steer to go with!). SE version the ride is harsher - not pick up truck harsh, but compared to the TL-S it's night and day. Handling - solid rear axle, nuff said, but I think the fatter tires and SE suspension give it great grip (off ramps at 60 - hold on to your slurpees kids).
03 - TLS - okay I thought it lacked that neck snapping good time, but I have not stomped it becuase I am still in the pre 1000 mile range. I just got a loaner CL-S to drive while they get the acid rain spotting out of my antharsite - it's an 01 with 48K so I had no reservation about stomping that - and I had me a big old grin -every bit as neck snapping fun as the 02 max. Handling - Double Wishbone, multilink - night and day from the 02 Max, I think the tires are thinner on the TLS - but still the ride seems much more solid, much less harsh
from a dumb old daily driver who likes to push em once in a while I can break it down like this - the 02 Max (and the 3.5 alt I drove) they seem to give you power all at once, but run out of steam at the higher end - the TLS seems to start off not as strong but brings more in the middle and end range - seem more like a solid delivery of power rather than a blast off (and don't get me wrong blasting off with the Max was fun - many a stang bit it from light to light)
02 MAX - it felt like a V8 - neck snapping in your face off the line omph (and torque steer to go with!). SE version the ride is harsher - not pick up truck harsh, but compared to the TL-S it's night and day. Handling - solid rear axle, nuff said, but I think the fatter tires and SE suspension give it great grip (off ramps at 60 - hold on to your slurpees kids).
03 - TLS - okay I thought it lacked that neck snapping good time, but I have not stomped it becuase I am still in the pre 1000 mile range. I just got a loaner CL-S to drive while they get the acid rain spotting out of my antharsite
- it's an 01 with 48K so I had no reservation about stomping that - and I had me a big old grin -every bit as neck snapping fun as the 02 max. Handling - Double Wishbone, multilink - night and day from the 02 Max, I think the tires are thinner on the TLS - but still the ride seems much more solid, much less harshfrom a dumb old daily driver who likes to push em once in a while I can break it down like this - the 02 Max (and the 3.5 alt I drove) they seem to give you power all at once, but run out of steam at the higher end - the TLS seems to start off not as strong but brings more in the middle and end range - seem more like a solid delivery of power rather than a blast off (and don't get me wrong blasting off with the Max was fun - many a stang bit it from light to light)
11-20-2003, 08:34 PM
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I wanted to buy an Altima 3.5 SE ever since I saw the first commercial on TV. After test driving a couple, manuals and auto's, the TL-s is still a better machine. The Altimas scared me off with their cheap interior, and the styling, well, it's getting ho-hum. Take a close look and you can start to see the paint orange peel (which I have seen a few do - ON THE DEALERS LOT! lol...).
What made me chose the Acura? I would rather pay $22k for a $33k car with 2 years and a few miles on it, than pay $29k+ for a $17k base car.
The engine is nice. Throw some weight on the Alti 3.5 and it handles and accelerates like sh#t. Have fun with the torque steer! And it has the worst gearbox shift feel I have ever felt for a car in that price range.
Im not bashing the car. I still love it and respect it when I see it. But I feel like I get more bang for my buck with my TL-s.
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What made me chose the Acura? I would rather pay $22k for a $33k car with 2 years and a few miles on it, than pay $29k+ for a $17k base car.
The engine is nice. Throw some weight on the Alti 3.5 and it handles and accelerates like sh#t. Have fun with the torque steer! And it has the worst gearbox shift feel I have ever felt for a car in that price range.
Im not bashing the car. I still love it and respect it when I see it. But I feel like I get more bang for my buck with my TL-s.
my $.02
11-22-2003, 10:25 AM
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ecstasy_civic i agree the 3.5 SE Altima are faster not totally smokin TLS but it is faster but TLS looks way better and the mods looks nicer my opinion but. I myself raced a 3.5 Altima and i was really suprised that I couldnt pass that car 495 South about 1 or 2 in the morning, no mods.