ya you read it right
anyways it went like this:
i stopped at a light and i see this green mustang GT, not a new one but like a 94 or 95, something like that. he revs and i look over and see the GT emblem and im like h#ll no. so we both take off, he kind of punches it, i go slow and act like im on the phone. so he slows down to wait for me and i think what the hell. I turn off the AC, switch to SS, downshift to 2nd and he punches it again. i pull on him by about 1/2 car length and we stay like that until about 90 - 100 and cut it off. we stop at a light and he has 1 person in the car and he looks over and asks what size motor and all that, he says i can beat a lot of mustangs cuz his had a lot of stuff done to it...

later that night i roll up on a WRX at a light. he looks over at me and then ahead. the light turns green, we both take off slow and kind of go faster until we both are flooring it. we got to around 40ish and i pulled on him a little bit. we get up to about 60 and and he then comes flying past me and gets like a carlength ahead. by the time we get to about 85 - 90 im at his front fender, then i give up...
i thought both of these cars are supposed to walk us. something is prolly wrong with the drivers around here cuz this is like the 2nd or 3rd GT ive beat or hung with... also i thought a WRX would walk me even if it had 4 flat tires (maybe this was the case )
well this was my night, thanx for reading...

 

so did u beat the mustang or u lose?

 

well, if you have a TYPE - S I'm actually certain that you will beat the other 2 cars b/c #1, V6-VTEC has more acceleration once you get moving. #2 you used SS and know how to use it; whereas, WRX & GT dude may have a lot of lag. #3, maybe your car is special , one of the few TL-S off the assembly line that can do 0-60 in 5seconds?

CL-S 6spd manual can do 0-60mph in 5.2sec. Add about 0.5seconds to that for your auto TL. Also, TL-S auto is quicker than CL-S auto. so you are able to do 0-60mph in 5.4-5.9 seconds.

 

no stock CL-S can do 0-60 in 5.2....that's a fact!

 

i beat the mustang, i got ahead and stayed ahead. no its not even a type S thats why im wondering what happened here!

 

Stoplight racing is for two year old morons.

Get on a track with your car and race the clock. It's 95% of what the CAR is in a drag race, specially at stoplights.

As the saying goes....

Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers.

 

Dude, what are you smoking? The TL-S and CL-S are basically the same. Neither of them would go 0-60 in 5.4-5.9 seconds unless you dropped them from a plane.

CL-S 6 speed 0-60 time is 5.2??? No way.

 

um so what the hell you want me to roll down my window and ask him if he wants to drive for an hour to get to the nearest track what do you think you do at a track? race when a light signals you DUUUUHHH and corners for fast drivers... wtf its an automatic FWD what the hell am i gonnd do around a corner... drift?

 

for once i may have to agree with you

 

"Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers."
- as posted by Hercules

I cant agree with you on that one.... just cuz ur car can take a corner fast, does not mean you have some godgiven skills at driving. All it means is that your CAR, not you is capable of cornering hard. Just like a CAR is capable of getting up to speed on a straightaway... a little has to do with the drivers ability...

driving straight and launching better than the other guy : skillz
driving around a corner and beating him: skillz

given you have the same car... dont assume it takes no skill to punch the throttle... if that were the case, all id have to do is slam the gas and duplicate the 0-60 and 0-100 and 1/4mile times that the "pros" are doing

 

Last generation GT Mustangs were slow pigs, a TLs is far superior in numbers. A current generation GT is a lot tougher, numbers are a bit better then the TLs

 

I would rather race on the streets than on track.... takes no skill to punch the gas... when i'm racin'... i don't just go straight ... gotta make the cuts and all.... i think it's bullshi*t just punching gas and going straight.... my 2¢

 

Can someone at least admit that it DOES require some skill to "punch the gas"... im not saying that this makes a great driver, just saying that stomping the gas to get the most significant pickup does require some skill... give props to where its due

not everyone can duplicate those 0-60times that are quoted by magazines... why do you think that is?

 

What are ya talkin about? In drag races, two cars of a similar spec, drivetrain, weight, and tires are lined up and raced. That's a true drag race. The 0-60 times you talk about don't involve just slammin the gas, they involve brake torquing for automatic cars, and finding the appropriate launch point in manual cars.

When I say cornering, I don't mean taking the car hard around the corner. One corner doesn't mean anything. A track, where cornering involves timing of brakes, heel and toe downshifting, countersteering for oversteer/understeer, as well as cutting corners close to gain the lap time.

My point is, that on a street, when you're 'stoplight racing' with other 17 year olds that just got a car, you're not really even going with the flow of a drag race because a TL wouldn't be allowed to race a WRX. That's why I think it's pointless.

Besides, the TL is a quick car, and it'll beat a lot of stuff on the road.. but we don't really need to hear about it every time you beat the pants off some Civic, WRX, GT, whatever... I would just take some enjoyment in KNOWING I can beat em.. my car is too slow to race anyway :P

 

Because they like to keep their transmissions running?

If you read Car and Driver when they reviewed some Lamborghini... they got a 3.7 0-60 time... and in their article they said something to the effect of "this car flies to 60 in 3.7 seconds.. but don't expect your transmission to last that long if you want to try to get the same."

Punching the gas doesn't take skill, and to get those 0-60 times they will run the car 20 or 30 times before they can get a best 0-60, because they need to find the shift points, and launch rpm. Nothing to do with skill, just trial and error. The skill is really when you see near-identical cars race it out.. then it comes down to double clutching fast, and not creating wheelspin at too high RPM.

 

give me some Hard corners and u know what ill end up doing? ill out corner u by hogging the whole lane... and ull never win a race... plus when do you see pple racing around corners? u wanna go to a track and race, ull most likely be the only one out there unless ure gonna go pro and race F1 racers

 

Frankly, Hercules is right. I rode along with my friend at PIR in his Plymouth Laser (turbo 4-banger) and he was out racing corvettes M3s and porsches. Not that the other cars couldn't take him on a straight-line race, but when it comes to taking corners ,and I don't mean those sissy bermed corners around the outside of the track, I mean the hair-pin corners that you need to slow down just enough to not eat it, but fast enough so that others can't catch up, it's a skill of thje driver, not the car.

 

i never discounted that it takes skill to take corners... all im saying is that it also takes skill to accelerate.... not everyone can change gears as quickly or smoothly as the next person. that requires skill... and last i checked herc, ur car cud outhandle mine stock... if u really believe in ur skillz we cud always see who wud win out in a race through some somewhere (handling vs speed) =)

 

"Neither of them would go 0-60 in 5.4-5.9 seconds unless you dropped them from a plane. "

hahahaha...thats f'in funny

definitely tru though...where the hell did you get those numbers from? i didnt know we could hang with m3's???

 

That's not how you'd race, unless you were in an F1 racer. One person would hit the track, and get a time for their lap, say the best of three laps.

Then the next person goes, gets their time. Best time wins.

We can do it in the summer or spring I found out where too!

 

time and place herc... we'll see how much ur handling is gonna help when ure runnin 0-60 in 10seconds and the 1/4mile in 3hrs =)

watch my touring tires take on those Z's and have the J32 whoop on u

 

Doesn't start again till spring/summer but yea, we'll definately make a trip of it.

 

It is possible for a FWD to drift, but extremely difficult to accomplish unless you are skilled.

On a side note, I read in the current issue of Import Tuners magazine about Japanese street racers. They don't race as much as they use to (cops nail them for this), so they end up drifting instead. It's really incredible....I've seen movie clips where two cars would drift side by side without touching.

 

You can tweak the handbrake and induce a drift like I've done, by turning hard, tweakin the handbrake, end lets loose then you countersteer and enjoy...

Could get hairy though, it's not one of my best 'tricks' but I can pull it off safely.. but the room with which I do it leaves little room for comfort hehe... I really don't have a full control on the rear end like I can in RWD so its just a cheap thrill in a FWD car

 

yeah safely if ure in an empty parking lot... last i remember u almost hit the sidewalk doing a handbrake pull... another trick of urs

 

Almost only counts in horseshoes and grenades

 

almost but i know i saw an ALMOST panic flushed face of urs when u went that way and were inches from screwing up ur axle on the curb... good thing that vette got out of the way before u turned in

and since when do you drive RWD on a regular basis to do tricks? all ive seen is FWD stuff and i have yet to see something spectacular... took 1try for me to do the reverse 180... 3tries to nail the fwd 180 (just gotta pull harder)... have yet to see you do a slide into a corner correctly and i havent seen the infamous 360 .. not like u can find a place anywhere nearby to try it

As for your whole talk about not caring about speed, how come u have a heavy foot for a car thats so slow? cud u be accounting for the lack of speed that ur car has or just lack of manlihood?

 

For the TL, it's footbrake....handbrake is definitely lot easier to do than footbrake

 

I don't care about speed so long as it's well-mated to the car. My car is heavy and its very underpowered. 220, 250 horses I wouldn't complain.