seattle dale

Has anyone ever gone up against an A6 for the kill, or are we the ones getting kilt. Always loved the way they look, but don't know too much about their performance. Always been curious? Anyone?

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

3.0 Quattro? Not even a contest. My buddy has one.

4.2? Never ran one. I want to, though.

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

the 4.2 is listed as a 6.7s 0-60 time (fairly consistently in most of the articles i have seen). our car has been reviewed anywhere from 6.2 to 7.2. i am almost inclined to give it to the A6 because of the all wheel drive. although it could rightly be neck and neck but i guess that all depends on the driver and the initial launch with the VSA off. i think that would be an awesome race though.

SSTS

hemants

You'll probably win unless it's a chipped manual 2.7t then watch out.

mrogers

I've driven the 2.7, 2.8, and 3.0. I almost bought a 2.7t before I bought my Acura, but Audi's reliability ratings are crap. Anyway, you'd definitely beat the pants off any of the 6-cylinders, but the 4.2 would be a close one I think.

ferizzo

I don't know about the 6 cyclinder turbo manual as it is a decently quick car for its size. 2.7t manual would be a driver's race against a TLS if both are stock. I'd give the edge to the audi though. 4.2 would be a good race until triple digits when the 1.0 additional liters and 2 cyclinders will begin making a difference.

`ill*tl

Isn't the A6 2.7t engine the same as the old-gen bi-turbo S4's?

SuperCoupe93

yeah, the 2.7t is the same 250 bhp engine as the previous generation S4. I'm sorry to say, but a 2.7t A6 would crush a TL-S, whether it was stick or automatic. The automatics post 5.9sec runs to 60, as apposed to 6.2 for the TL-S. I've driven a couple 2.7t A6's, and it is definetly a quicker car. As far as a 4.2 goes, a TL-S should take one fairly easily. It has 300 bhp, but the V8 adds alot of extra weight to the car. The 4.2 has alot of torque, but it doesn't feel as quick and nimble as the TL-S.

Black-n-Tan

i ran a friends 4.2 up to about 80mph and took it by about a car length (might have made that up, but if you do a search you'll prob find what i posted right after it happened). i dont know if the race was really fair or whatever, but for the record and bragging rights, i took it. 2.7t will win tho. turbo+stick+awd= beating the sh!t out of a tl-s

seattle dale

super coupe, you mentioned the A6 4.2 was a v-8, i always thought it was a v-6. if its a v-6, what is the a8?

njtls

um the a8 uses the 4.2 liter v8 also...same enigne

edgalang

You can't always use that analogy...just look at the 3.0 A4.

seattle dale

thanks for clearing that up guys, learn something every day.

vr-switch

whoever said the a6 2.7 wont take a tl-s must be crazy!!!!! yes the reliablilty sucks but the a6 is a lot faster in a 6 speed...and the 4.2 only comes in the a8 for those who thought it came in the a6....the 3.0 is slow the tl-s would smoke that but thats about it

mrogers

Uh, no vr-switch, you're wrong about the A6. I don't know where the hell some of you get the idea that the "6" in A6 means 6-cylinder. Does the "5" in BMW 530i mean 5-cylinder? NO. It's just their mid-range model number. The 4.2L V-8 is an available option on the A6, and has been for years:

http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,...200410,00.html

Also, you guys are right about the 2.7t manual, that probably would smoke the TL-S. I was referring to the auto, because that's the only 2.7t I drove.

vr-switch

MY BAD YOUR RIGHT ...BUT YOUR ALSO A ****IN COCK SUCKER EAT A **** FAG

mrogers

Riiight, that was very mature...if you can't handle being corrected, why don't you go away and come back when you're grown up.

GoldieAlek

i would say 3.2S would beat all A6's from line...because A6 is quattro... takes longer to start 4 wheels than 2...
2.7T and 3.2-S same HP.

SuperCoupe93

I wouldn't say that GoldieAlek. The quattro system give the A6 incredible traction off the line. Plus, their system is a true 50/50 power transfer system, so the wheels get all the torque right away. Also, all Audi V6's, even the old 2.8L had good low end torque, which we all know is not exactly a strong point for Acuras. The 4.2 has massive torque off the line, and the 2.7t also has alot of torque off the line, with virtually no turbo lag. At high RPM, a TL-S should easily hold its own if not beat most A6's, but don't underestimate them. Also, just to clear things up, the TL-S has 10 more hp than an Audi 2.7T. 260 vs. 250.

mrogers

Yeah, that close hp is what I think would make it a close race with the 2.7t. But, GoldieAlek, the 4.2 would definitely blow away the TL-S in an acceleration test. It isn't a ton more horsepower, but its a lot more torque. Those V8 A6's are FAST, and the all wheel drive really helps, not hurts, when it's done right, and if there's one thing Audi knows it's AWD.

JimmyTLS

I beat a 2.7t stick before. Not by much tho. Well seattle dale, only one way to find out yourself. Let's stop bench racing and get on the road!! Have fun and most importantly, be safe. Take it to the track.

seattle dale

ya i was really close to buying the a6 4.2, it just had an incredable look, but my buddies @ work kept on telling me they were high maintnance. also wasn't sure about thier navi system which was important to me. I had my '91 legend coupe for 12 years, with 187k on her, with minamal problems. Had to change out a radiator once, & a few other small problems. That made me sway back to acura. But now i hear of the tranny gremlin nightmares & i'm begening to wonder if i nade the right choice or not. Don't get me wrong, luv the car, just don't want any stinkin problems.

`ill*tl

I don't think anyone on the forums wants tranny problems.

seattle dale

i hear dat

samkws

the 2.8 and 3.0 are slow with auto and quattro!!!

the 2.8 clocked at 9.9 sec...

but the 2.7T and 4.2 are fast, can take the TL-S after 100mph

ferizzo

You have no idea what you are talking about. An auto A6 is nowhere near 5.9 to sixty. As a matter of fact below are the specs from Audi themselves for the 04 A6, which has more power:

0-60 mph in seconds: 6.4
Top track speed: 130 mph¹

As a matter of fact I've seen some at the track and although the A6 2.7t 6 is faster, it doesn't crush the TLS. The autos are exactly equal to the TLS.

em17henry

i like both the a6's and the tl's but with the tranny problems the tl's have I rather not try to race with it anymore guys, i'm waiting on the 05A6's its supposed to have a brand new look, can't wait!

SuperCoupe93

Say what you like dude, but the TL-S is not as fast as the 2.7T. If you knew anything, you would know that manufacturers always underrate their performance specs. Check any auto mag...I always use Motor Trend, and they clocked the 2.7T at 5.9 secs to 60, and the TL-S at 6.2 sec, and i believe them. I've driven both cars many times, and IMO the 2.7t is a quicker car.

ferizzo

Yeah like Nissan and Mazda...get real.

Sorry dude, I'm not a mag racer. I'm telling you what I've seen at the track (as in I was there at a NE audi meet). I'm not saying they are slow just saying you are wrong about a 5.9 0-60. I'd even say that a 6.2 for a TLS is too low.

SuperCoupe93

i don't care what you saw at a track...until you've driven the cars for yourself then your opinion doesn't matter much to me. Call me a Mag racer if you want, but the road test editors go by actual numbers they aquire during actual road tests, not by watching people drive on a track and making opinions about performance. Audi has been underrating performance ppotential on their cars for years. The idea is to deter people from buying mid level cars and upgrading to more expensive trim levels. in the previous generation A4, their were 2 engine options...a 2.8L v6 rated at 174bhp, and a 1.8T rated at 150bhp. Dyno tests showed that the 1.8T actually had 152 hp at the wheels, so it was at least 175-180bhp at the crank. Audi would never advertise this to the consumers because if people knew that it put out as much hp as the 2.8L they would never upgrade to the more expensive engine and trim package. Just a little FYI, but you wouldn't know about that because only posers who read mags like me would understand what that's all about!

SuperCoupe93

The only thing I'll agree with you on is the top track speed. Audi always governs their U.S. spec cars at 130 mph. The drivetrains have much more potential than that obviously. Chip a 2.7T to remove the limiter, and it'll run well past 150mph all day...by the way, I didn't get this out of a mag, so there is no need for you to assume that it's a lie.