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Old 03-18-2010 | 08:48 PM
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Question Pulley Swapping

From what i have read on here and other places the only thing that makes power on our cars is the crank pulley?
i have also read that the idea of the underdrive pulley swap is to replace heavy oem pulley with lightweight pulley. right?
and i have tried to find a DIY on this but i came up with nothing.
i could use some advice on:
1. what pulley to buy
2. how to do it. is it hard anything more than unbolting, swinging the old pulley out and replacing?
3 and will i need a new belt?
and anything else you would like to tell me
Old 03-18-2010 | 09:01 PM
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First off, the greatest gains besides being boosted will be yielded from an intake, pulleys, headers, hi flow cat, catback exhaust, etc...There are manyy threads on this.
Unorthodox Racing is the recomended brand for us...(UR)
I dont know the exact installation procedure, but I cant imagine that its too hard.
Have you ever replaced your belts? If not this would be the perfect time to do so...However, I dont think its absolutely necessary
Old 03-18-2010 | 09:06 PM
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anc297 is right.....its not hard at all....i just did it my self...if you get the unorthodox racing ones like i did they will send you the belts...i got the full pulley set tho and the belt will be a little smaller then the oem one....
Old 03-18-2010 | 09:09 PM
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is unorthodox a vendor on here? how much is the crank pulley?
Old 03-18-2010 | 09:29 PM
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You'll need a special tool with a bored-out hex socket to remove the crank nut. You use the tool to hold the pulley still while using a regular socket (and breaker bar or impact wrench) to loosen the crank nut. I think it's called a Honda crank pulley tool. Some type of puller is also needed to get the pulley itself off.
Old 03-18-2010 | 09:34 PM
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You can purchase the pulley and belts from Excelerate Performance

There's the link. You need the UR crank pulley (stock size or underdrive). If you get the underdrive you have to get the shorter belts as well. You will need the Gates belts that are sold from the same vendor (Excelerate). The process is simple but getting the crank nut loose can be a bitch if you don't know what you're doing. It's the most torqued nut on the entire car (tightest).

I took it to my mechanic and he did it for me in less than an hour so it was worth it. Better than a major headache and hours of my time down the drain.

Also, the search function works wonders. You search crank pulley or just pulley and I know there will be posts on this that show up. There is no official DIY, but there is a couple large threads by a member or two that have installed one.
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If you don't have a good compressor/impact wrench, read up on using the crank method to get the bolt off. And a good breaker bar to get it back in. Torque spec is like 180 lbs but I think UR specifies smaller torque and then a 30 degree turn (or something like that)
Old 03-19-2010 | 03:00 AM
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they give you the 181 foot pounds or a spec lower torque plus x amount of turn past that, (for those with lower limit torque wrench
either way brings you to 181 ---as tested by excelerate at his shop

Honda crank pulley tool from kragen.com 20 bucks

Bomz is another well known maker without the fancy labeling and laser etching.
CL guys have been using them for years as well as our megamod fsttyms1 has bomz over a year now, what he called `the mod he should have done years ago`

losing the weight allows faster revving to get into vtec sooner- thats how it `makes power`- by freeing up power already in the engine but slowed by the weight of spinning mass

need special size belt- and differnt brand than stock due to pulley edge shape, Gates fit best and run quiet

Shop with experience can do this in 20 minutes,, and usually charge 45-60 minutes time for it
Old 03-19-2010 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
they give you the 181 foot pounds or a spec lower torque plus x amount of turn past that, (for those with lower limit torque wrench
either way brings you to 181 ---as tested by excelerate at his shop

Honda crank pulley tool from kragen.com 20 bucks

Bomz is another well known maker without the fancy labeling and laser etching.
CL guys have been using them for years as well as our megamod fsttyms1 has bomz over a year now, what he called `the mod he should have done years ago`

losing the weight allows faster revving to get into vtec sooner- thats how it `makes power`- by freeing up power already in the engine but slowed by the weight of spinning mass

need special size belt- and differnt brand than stock due to pulley edge shape, Gates fit best and run quiet

Shop with experience can do this in 20 minutes,, and usually charge 45-60 minutes time for it
Old 03-19-2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hANDYcaptd
If you don't have a good compressor/impact wrench, read up on using the crank method to get the bolt off. And a good breaker bar to get it back in. Torque spec is like 180 lbs but I think UR specifies smaller torque and then a 30 degree turn (or something like that)
not to be off topic but, iv have an electric impact wrench and its got a lot more punch than my air wrench at 115 psi. downside is that its larger and wont fit in tight spaces, unlike my air wrench which is smaller.
Old 03-19-2010 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
`the mod he should have done years ago`

losing the weight allows faster revving to get into vtec sooner- thats how it `makes power`- by freeing up power already in the engine but slowed by the weight of spinning mass
Now if we could just fix our wimpy @$$ 4th gear.
Old 03-19-2010 | 11:33 AM
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u can. its called 6 speed
Old 03-19-2010 | 12:56 PM
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I figured some of you 6mt guys would chime in like that. I read fattymoses article. The pic below says it all.



Looks like lots of fun. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or resources to pull that off, even if I could find a 6mt. Guess I'll just have to red line it in 3rd gear before going to 4th.
Old 03-19-2010 | 04:39 PM
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Whatjo call me.

You dont have to go the route i did. You can keep ALL your wiring and just swap the trans. All you need are the modules.
Old 03-19-2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Whatjo call me.
Sorry about that...I can't pronounce it, so typing it seemed awkward. What would you like to be called?
Old 03-19-2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jdjohn84
Sorry about that...I can't pronounce it, so typing it seemed awkward. What would you like to be called?

Just a wild guess, but maybe fsttyms1...
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Originally Posted by jdjohn84
Sorry about that...I can't pronounce it, so typing it seemed awkward. What would you like to be called?
fast times 1 or kris
Old 03-19-2010 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by assclown
fast times 1 or kris
Aaahhh...How bout Spicoli, then?
Old 03-19-2010 | 09:05 PM
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its actually Fast Times WON
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Originally Posted by jdjohn84
Aaahhh...How bout Spicoli, then?

wtf are you on?
Old 03-19-2010 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ANC297
wtf are you on?
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Old 03-19-2010 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Fast Times at Ridgemont High

Gotcha...Never seen it though...
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Originally Posted by ANC297
Gotcha...Never seen it though...
What a shock Kind of like Napoleon Dynamite of the 80's...kind of...maybe.
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
its actually Fast Times WON
And yours??? 01tl4tl = ??? 2001 TL...
Old 03-19-2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jdjohn84
What a shock Kind of like Napoleon Dynamite of the 80's...kind of...maybe.

I'll check it out!
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i was watching office space when i created my username. michael bolton inspired me haha
Old 06-02-2010 | 02:04 AM
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do they make a non under driven pulley ive heard bad things about under drive
Old 06-02-2010 | 07:25 AM
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its the "stock size" pulley - same size, but lighter weight.
Old 06-02-2010 | 08:49 AM
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also called stock diameter sometimes
Old 06-02-2010 | 09:32 AM
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i cant find one anywhere though
Old 06-02-2010 | 10:51 AM
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our vendor excelerate is the only supplier

If I got the story correct, he had a bunch made when the manufacture was ending their production- so stock size in light size would be avail for those with stereos of more than 600 watts
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