Hello all,
Well to solve my desire for power and to get rid of the crapamatic transmission i am doing a 6-speed swap with j35 internals...i will be getting a CL 6-speed motor/tranny and the build on the motor as of right now will be as follows
MDX Crank and Rods
RL pistons and Cams
Ported and Polished heads
Ported and Polished Intake manifold and Throttle Body
I will be putting a Spec Stage 3 clutch and a lightweight flywheel
With this swap i think i will be in the range of 285 whp and about 260 torque...these are geusstimates but it is about what it should gain...nothing has been bought yet but i have the parts available to me...i just have to come up with the cash...this power should put the car between a 12.8-13.3 in the 1/4

 

Dont get that clutch from what I've read its just a painted OEM Accord V6 clutch. Good luck with that , I'll be doing my tranny swap by the end of the summer and may look into that 3.5 also.

 

Great, ... now I'm going to have some competition. lol

 

How much you think it would run you just for the tranny swap? I mite work on that next

 

Well it all depends on if you have anyone to install it that knows what they are doing. The average tranny is going for $1,200 and then add in all the other little things like sensors it's another 1k and add labor its gonna be roughly 3k-4k. I wanna order stuff piece by piece so when I'm ready all I need to get is the tranny. But I tell you man a boosted 6spd 2nd Gen is like heaven, everytime i'm in it or see it I come out smiling.

 

This is very true..

 

If u were to complete this.......I think u would be the first 3.5L 6 speed tls.....right ?

 

That's about what I was coming up with.I'm going to start buying parts here and there.I wanted to have the swap done by the summer but I don't think I will. I've spent 2 much $ this year

 

that's going to be pretty sweet.

 

yes it seems that way...i might get a loan to do it...if not it will be middle of summer at the earliest to get it in...but its definatly gonna happen...now the motor im not set on those internals but that is what im thinkin of now...

 

theres a 1200$ cl-s 6 MT in md, damn it...

good luck on the project, keep us posted (as you know that is the way around here )

 

yeah, that's $1200.. before being shipped. lol Mine was $1200, after shipping, $1400.

 

^ still a good price...and i'd just have it shipped to crib in MD and it'll have to wait til i get there

 

keep us posted, its gonna fly.

 

Interesting.... I was going to look into doing the swap when my tranny finally goes out. I want to see how it goes and see what the power and price difference are to see which one I want to do.

 

yeah the 6 speed is definatly worth the money...i am about to get a brand new automatic trans from the dealership under warranty...when i do the swap i will sell this tranny...it will have very low miles on it...ill probably ask $1500 since new they are over $2500

 

me and my brother were talking the other day, and we were thinking how hard it would be to put a type S cl motor in his 5th gen ('98) prelude. when it gets high miles on it and the tranny goes out, would it be too much for all of this custom work? would it even fit? or should we just get a turbo kit for a low mileage 5th gen prelude motor from a junkyard?

sorry for highjacking

 

I've already started to buy the small parts...Now I'm just looking for a complete motor with tranny and start doing my first swap.

 

Car-part.com... last time I checked, there's a complete CL-S engine+tranny, harness, ecu, everything.... pedals, etc that were going for 3.8K I called them up a while back, everything's legit. Better get on it while you still have the chance.

 

nooooo, fuck u jake. im suppose to do it first. haha


im also lookin into a j35 with a 6 speed. anyone know if the j35 from the new TLS and its tranny will work?


and so9, will you be rebuilding that engine yourself?

 

ey joe, really hope to see you down here for the all cali meet man.

 

Yeah, hoping on being there too.

 

whenever you go thru with this project top it all off by adding some FI to that 3.5 6 speed :-)

 

haha if i have the money later down the road...if it did anything it would be turbo..but i doubt it will see boost since i will be running 11:1 compression...thats a little high for boost

 

I may not know any of you guys....but normally on a forum you post pics or reciepts of you build and then a dyno sheet.....

i still get flamed for doing a build up even though i provide pics...so i said F-it and deleted all threads till i am done.

I wish you good luck and hope it all comes together for you!

 

Honestly, I always liked following up on your threads... any current/future projects?

 

I'm waiting for u to finish, so i could see what other parts are needed for the swap. That way I wont have any more delays

 

My 2 threads pretty much telly you every thing you need. There is a parts list

 

RL cams have already been tried but didnt work if i remember .. will Rl piston give great gain ? (11 vs 10.5 compression..) keep us updated !

 

Dont want to be a hater or anything but you wont run a 12.8-13.3 with that power, i would say maybe with slicks on yes, but you will have insane traction problems with it being in a FWD car. Id give you low 14s on street tires.

But yea, very creative build....and good luck

 

Stock CL-S 6MT's run low to mid 14s...

 

In a 2nd Gen TL? Yes, but I read in Honda Tuning in the last year of a guy with a yellow 4 door Legend with the same setup...

 

you should definitely upgrade your brakes

 

Stock CL-S run low 14s? .......Right
Consider the fact that he will have ~50 more whp when its all said and done.

You cant deny he will not have traction problems with that kind of Tq in a car that weighs that much in a FWD platform.


With drag radials or slicks i give the car low 13s like i said.

But everyone has an opinion though...people can say "well stock cl-s runs low 14s(which is BS), so my car which has more power will be able to run this"

You never know until you finish the car and run it at the track

Just my opinion though

 

Forget about 1/4mile times dammit...that's not why you should building a motor on a TL

Have you thought about bumping the CR to make the 285whp that you want. engine management? maybe you'll design the first adjustable cam for us too. good luck on the build

 

The F20C and F22C run compression that high and are boosted all the time.

 

I ran 13.3 @ 108 MPH with 295whp and 242wtq in an automatic.

I ran low 14's (14.1 @101MPH) with 225whp and 182wtq in an automatic.

Both on all season 17" tires.

 

A CL-S 6-speed with an intake, drag radials, and lightweight wheels is capable of low 14s. That's pretty damn close to stock. It's been done over on the CL side of the forum. A CL-S with intake, headers, and 16" slicks ran high 13s.

 

Its unbelievable how much more efficient the manual trans is at putting the power to the ground...

 

yea the automatic tranny sux ass...i have an 03 TLS intake, exhaust, headers, and pulleys and still ran a 14.2...cnt w8 to get that money for the tranny swap