ANC297

iTrader: (2)

Is it okay to fill a shot mount, or do I need to get a new one to fill it?

Mista Juice

iTrader: (7)

umm.. what?

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

Pretty sure it can be done on shot mounts.

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

Okay good. I think Im gonna pick up the poly today..

silver3.2tl

iTrader: (1)

I guess it all depends on if you want it to vibrate or not.

01tl4tl

devise a way to contain it if the rubber is blown apart on the mount

assclown

iTrader: (1)

haha, you guys should have seen the mounts i pulled out of my swap, they were atrocious. the new ones are poly filled though we'll see how that goes.

gold2003tl (90)

^ sweet, ill be poly filling my front and side mounts soon. along with the 'stiffy' ETD i should be good to go for a long time.

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, I think I'm gonna get on the group buy tomorrow and I will be poly filling my mounts...
I'll keep you guys posted.

Mista Juice

iTrader: (7)

just curious.. which mount is the "shot mount".. just never heard that before..

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

Oh, it's not a name. It just means its shot, ie...a bad mount. Poly filled to make it stiffer.

fsttyms1

DONT fill a bad mount. Get a new one. Polyfilling a old wont help the fact that all the rubber on the mount is torn. It wont be near as effective as it would be on a new one.

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

First I am gonna fill the bad one, for two reasons....First off, to have a practice shot at it...And secondly, I wanna see how it will feel once poly filled, since there will be a lot more vibrations. If I like it overall, I will get new mounts and do those, if not I will just get new mounts...

Is there a certain type of Polyurethane that I need? I picked up a gallon of oil based urethane for flooring from Home depot earlier today.


I will also be jumping in the group buy for the torque damper hopefully tomorrow afternoon.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Add to that the oil filled mounts will leak hydraulic fluid and will keep the poly from bonding.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

No no no. Totally wrong product. I used the 3M Window Weld product but others can chime in with what they used.

assclown

iTrader: (1)

haha

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

I honestly did not think it was the right product, but 3 people at Home Depot assured me that it was what I was looking for. Where can I find that?

And how many 10.5 oz tubes would I need?

Mista Juice

iTrader: (7)

oh.. hahah.. i thought it was some nickname for a certain mount or something.. ive seen others fill them when they were actually still in ok shape just to make them more rigid.. ive never known anyone to fill one that has already taken a crap though..

assclown

iTrader: (1)

it's like a poly urethane concrete sealant, you'll need a caulking gun. you only need one big tube if you are going to be liberal with it.

fsttyms1

There are also 2 part liquids you can buy. DO a search on the CL side. there are instructions and what to use

fsttyms1

WAY WRONG stuff to use

gold2003tl (90)

i have a question on how to reinstall the front motor mount if its poly filled. since that circler top cover plate that is attached by 4 little bolts, it will be "glued" onto the motor mount from the poly. how are you going to install the 3, 14mm bolts to the bracket/engine? i had to unbolt that top plate of the mount and hold it out of the way in order to back out the 2 lower bracket bolts, otherwise the bracket bolts would hit that piece of metal.

any suggestions?


also i had a tough time getting the bolt holes to line up on the bracket, is it better to unbolt the side mount and maybe the tranny mounts when installing the front?

thanks

fsttyms1

unbolt the mount bracket from the engine.

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

How long does the poly take to cure, approximately?

assclown

iTrader: (1)

give it 24-48 hours

fsttyms1

Fill it on a monday and wait till the weekend to put in Its not something i would rush.

fsttyms1

Id highly suggest reading thru this

From the DIY thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ly+fill+mounts

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

Hmm, I wouldnt want to rush it, but its my only car...I have to get to work and school and errands everyday. Ill see what I can do

And yeah, Ive read through that already!

sbuswell

i just ordered the Ingalls dampener today. My mounts are OK, not shot, but aren't like new. Don't all new OEM mounts come pre-filled with hydraulic fluid anyways? If so and you're mount (front) isn't shot wouldn't filling your old moujnt be the same as filling a new one?

ANC297

iTrader: (2)

Poly and hydraulic fluid are 2 completely different things...

01tl4tl

I think the question is about the space for something to be inside the mount
can you can drain a `still good mount` and fill it solid

twistedwedge

sbuswell-A poly filled mount is sort of in between a solid motor mount and a traditional rubber factory mount. The poly filled version should take much more abuse and essentially last longer (being that our factory mounts are crap). A lot of ppl are using this method in addition to those that did the 6mt swap. I plan on the same.

and as ANC said-poly and hydraulic are two completely different things..

AznWay

iTrader: (8)

After my mount go bad or i get some broken mount from my bro shop i will be trying something call 60 Duro rubber

You cann't buy this at any store

assclown

iTrader: (1)

oh yes i can....

sbuswell

I understand the methedology behind poly filling our mounts. My question was are the OEM mounts pre-filled with hydraulic fluid when you buy them? I replaced my front and side about 2 years ago and can't remember. I think it was filled as it was pretty heavy, but not positive. My concern is if you have an older mount that is not busted can you fill it with poly considering, if it's true, that new mounts are pre-filled with hydraulic fluid before you buy them? I would think the fluid would be easy to drain out of the mount, but it would be near impossible to get it all out (residual would remain).

MurkyRiversTL

^ This.

Ive used it on my Accord mounts... works great but I suggest waiting a week before reinstalling them.

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

i got all the fluid out. i cut out about 90% of the rubber and filled it with 80a ply. front and side, the side has a crack in it. dont think i let it cure long enough. the front is holding up great. need to do the rear now.

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

cant fine the other pics, but ive taken more rubber out than this. and this is just the front.

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

found some pics from a diy i was gonna do. then i got lazy. pics speak for them selfs but ask questions and ill help u out












some brake cleaner, water, and air will clean up any residue left

gold2003tl (90)

Rajca, how are vibrations on a fully filled front mount?