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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Oil filter question

I know this question has probably been beaten to death, but I did do a search and couldn't find a definitive answer on this. Anyways, I got my 03 TL-S w/ 38K on it about a month ago (for $19.1K!), and the previous owner changed the oil with Mobil 1 synthetic but when I looked at the oil filter, it was one of those cheapy Frams. I was thinking about switching to either Mobil 1 Extended Performance or Amsoil and doing 15000 mi/1 year oil changes. If I were to do this, first: is it recommended for my car, and second: what kind of oil filter would be best for this application? Price isn't really a big concern since this is only going to be a once a year cost. Thanks in advance!
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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oh crap, fram isn't good? i use fram.. only b/c my dad buys it all the time... nothing wrong yet.. which oil filters are good then if fram isn't??
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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I was told that the $1/$2 Fram filters are basically paper filters and don't filter/hold up very well in the long run. I was reading and some of the filters that came up multiple times were the Purolator Pure One filter and the oversized Mobil 1?
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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If you see the construction of a FRAM filter vs a quality filter you would be shocked at the difference. If you plan on 3000mile OCI then Fram will do the job but IMO that is a waste of money and synthetic oil. Here is a site that has exposed several oil filters internals.

http://elabfcsvrt.fdu.edu/bartsch/Pr...udeOilFilters/
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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oil fileters are all the same size right? if not wat size is it for a 99 tl, i changed the oil yesterday with mobile 1 synthetic but didnt change the filter cuz i was lazy
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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k&n, mobil1, purolator pure one, denso all amke quality filter usually between 10-16 bucks a pop, but hold and have a much higher flow capacity. If using full syn oil go with a higher grader filter or you are wasting valuable quality and expensive syn oil.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Mobil 1 oversize filter (model M-105 from autozone) is what I use in conjunction with Mobil 1 synthetic oil, better flow and filtration.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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any good extended life filter even the frams xtended gaurd are fine. and yes you can switch to the mobil1 extended formula. ive been runing it just changed out my firs 15k oil change and had teh oil tested and it was in good shape yet. oh by the way i have 185k on the car
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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if u use mobil 1 and a high end filter hwo often should u be changing ur oil? i change it right now every three with penzoil and cheapy fram.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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If you really want the most for your money..try advanced auto part's filter...its built better than the regular fram and is less cost. best value for 3-5k changes
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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i love and only use the honda filter made by filtech...
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by brakejobhelp
i love and only use the honda filter made by filtech...
you mean by Fram.


i run 15k intervals on the fram xtended gaurd.

i have had my oil tested with the fram and the M105 filter and there is no difference between the 2
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you mean by Fram.


i run 15k intervals on the fram xtended gaurd.

i have had my oil tested with the fram and the M105 filter and there is no difference between the 2

I also think our engine is so easy on oil...(usually the RPMS are in the 1800k-3000k) that the filter does not need to be so big or built well. Toyota engines and Nissans are much harder on oil
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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1800-3000rpms. I usually am between 2500-5000rpms. I love to step on it! I just hate Fram products, so I stick with one of top filters I mentioned above. If you use mobil1 full syn extended peformance OCI should be 15k if you use a top notch filter.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by suj220
I also think our engine is so easy on oil...(usually the RPMS are in the 1800k-3000k) that the filter does not need to be so big or built well. Toyota engines and Nissans are much harder on oil
my engine is rarely there. im always flooring it
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by youngBuk
oil fileters are all the same size right? if not wat size is it for a 99 tl, i changed the oil yesterday with mobile 1 synthetic but didnt change the filter cuz i was lazy
Yes indeed very lazy. You just wasted all the oil you put in there. Reason being, now you are running clean oil through a dirty filter. If you don't change the filter, there is no point in changing the oil at all. And no not all oil filters are the same. You need to find the one that fits your car for the brand that you want.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by suj220
I also think our engine is so easy on oil...(usually the RPMS are in the 1800k-3000k) that the filter does not need to be so big or built well. Toyota engines and Nissans are much harder on oil
Have you seen the oil filter in the 05 G35? The closest thing I can relate it to is a small jar of baby food. You can almost fit the entire filter in your hand without seeing any of the filter. It's tiny
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by snowman81
Have you seen the oil filter in the 05 G35? The closest thing I can relate it to is a small jar of baby food. You can almost fit the entire filter in your hand without seeing any of the filter. It's tiny
Yes, I couldn't believe how tiny the stock filter is on the 350Z! I opted for oversized Mobil filter instead.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you mean by Fram.


i run 15k intervals on the fram xtended gaurd.

i have had my oil tested with the fram and the M105 filter and there is no difference between the 2
nope, filtech...

i dont remember the part number offhand, but there are two types... a newer filter manufactured by fram, and an older filter manufactured by filtech.... i stocked up before my local acura dealer ran out
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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My son, Mr. 99 Civic Si, turned me on to the oversized Honda S2000 filter (15400-PLM-A01). It costs the same as the stock filter used on most Honda products, including the Acura TLs, but is fatter and hold a bit more oil.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Guys,
Standard sized filters do just fine. Mobil 1, K&N, Purolator PureOne, Amsoil, Wix, Baldwin, or Napa Gold (Wix) are all good choices in the "high-end" category.

Michael
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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I use the honda filter..
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Oversized filter = decreased oil pressure

M1-104 on my car.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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I'm running Syntec through a Bosch filter. I can't remember who manufacturers the filter for Bosch, I believe it is the same company that does them for Mobil (Wix?).

Anyway, I find it is a nice comprimise between the Mobil 1 filter and the lousy Honda/Fram filters.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Bosch=Champion Labs Ecore.

Same filter as Supertech and Valuecraft.

Wix is Napa Gold.

Michael
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I was at the dealer today and saw the NSX oil filters. Can someone confirm this will fit my 2nd Gen TL. Much appreciated.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chet03TL-S
I was at the dealer today and saw the NSX oil filters. Can someone confirm this will fit my 2nd Gen TL. Much appreciated.
You were at the dealer and you didn't ask them this question?

The easiest way to answer this question yourself is

1. Go to a filter site
2. Look up the NSX and jot down the filter part number
3. Look up the TL and see if it's the same part number
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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The dealer is so textbookand they still get their info wrong. Here are two examples just overheard advisors talking to customer.

V-Rated Tires = 149mph limit vs. W-Rated = 145mph limit.
This was the advisor's explaination. The higher the speed rating the less likely the tire will lift off the ground at higher speeds. The real reason for different speed rating is for centripetal force on a tires tread. The has a greater likelyhood to seperate from the tire if it exceeds the speed rating.

Second: He told me my tranny holds 11qrts of fluid. It is actually a little less than 8qrts.

After hearing that I didn't need them to tell me. "Only use the Honda filter made for my car. That filter is for the NSX only." Its best to go to Acurazine forums where I can get much more accurate info.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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It's not the same part number I already knew that. I think a regular poster said the NSX filter does fit. I just couldn't find the post. Was looking for help. I wouldn't be surprised if someone browsing the forum is currently using the filter.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chet03TL-S
It's not the same part number I already knew that. I think a regular poster said the NSX filter does fit. I just couldn't find the post. Was looking for help. I wouldn't be surprised if someone browsing the forum is currently using the filter.
that was the s2000's oversized filter
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Ah, thats it. I thought my memory failed me. Trusting Acura advisors is a crap shoot where I live. Always giving out crappy advice and false info.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chet03TL-S
Ah, thats it. I thought my memory failed me. Trusting Acura advisors is a crap shoot where I live. Always giving out crappy advice and false info.
not all are bad. mines been pretty accurate
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
not all are bad. mines been pretty accurate
Mine told me that the hissing sound from the brake booster leak was the sound of the brake fluid retracting through the lines.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Mine told me that the hissing sound from the brake booster leak was the sound of the brake fluid retracting through the lines.
I did say NOT ALL didnt i ????????????
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