Oil change frequency?
Most (if not all) dealers suggest changing the oil at every 3750 mi, but the manual says every 7500 mi. Is that necessary to do it at 3500? What are the pros and cons of doing that more frequently than what the manual suggests?
Been down this road many times....
3750 seems reasonable for mineral oil (Pennzoil, etc.) By then, the additives are getting pretty thin and if you drive very hard or in very hot temps, you run the risk of accelerated wear. If on the other hand, you drive mostly on the highway, 5k is reasonable.
Double that for a good synthetic such as Redline or Mobil 1 - 5k for extreme conditions, 10k for easy service.
3750 seems reasonable for mineral oil (Pennzoil, etc.) By then, the additives are getting pretty thin and if you drive very hard or in very hot temps, you run the risk of accelerated wear. If on the other hand, you drive mostly on the highway, 5k is reasonable.
Double that for a good synthetic such as Redline or Mobil 1 - 5k for extreme conditions, 10k for easy service.
the 3k mile change is a load of crap ... conspiracy by the oil companies.. and media hype have everyone thinking it is required to change at 3k...
Your filter is more important... get a good filter.. Mobil1 synthetic.. or AC Delco duraguard... if not synthetic.. Delco makes the best regular element filter... I forgot the site that concluded this now...
You should be able to change your oil at manufactuer's recommendation... I usually go 7k... and i know most of you will say.. wah.. my oil turns black at 3000 miles... well... next time you change your oil... drain it at 500 miles.. it will be black...
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Your filter is more important... get a good filter.. Mobil1 synthetic.. or AC Delco duraguard... if not synthetic.. Delco makes the best regular element filter... I forgot the site that concluded this now...
You should be able to change your oil at manufactuer's recommendation... I usually go 7k... and i know most of you will say.. wah.. my oil turns black at 3000 miles... well... next time you change your oil... drain it at 500 miles.. it will be black...
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Read the manual a little more closely: 7500 is for normal use, and 3750 is for severe conditions. Severe is how most of us drive, i.e. - cold or hot driving, dusty conditions, or majority of trips under 5 miles or something like that. If you do a lot of short trips or cold starts, then go with 3750 to be safe. Oil is cheap.
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'01 White Diamond Pearl 3.2TL
-Wing, tint, burlwood shift, Whistler 6-band
'88 White RX-7 Convertible
-Permanent tinitus courtesy of Rockford-Fosgate
most of us do not drive in 'dusty conditions' these are SEVERE conditions... not the majority.. if it were the majority.. the manufacturer would just recommend 3k.
SEVERE is like pizza delivery men, that ype of driving... I doubt many people are using their TLs as pizza delivery cars
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SEVERE is like pizza delivery men, that ype of driving... I doubt many people are using their TLs as pizza delivery cars

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I've always done my change at every 3000 b/c:
1) I and a "severe" driver (maybe just agressive, but still...I'll err on the conservative side)
2) much easier to remember 3l, 6k,9k,12k,15k,18k,21,24k,27k,30k...( bigger services in bold)
3) I agree with Gomez that oil is cheap
4) I am lazy and do not want to buy another car anytime soon, so I take the most conservative approach.
The 3k schedule allows me to run a little (late) on the service and not feel like I did a major Faux Pas. It also gives me the chance to inspect everything every 3k for any other issues (nails in tire, tar on car, clean out wells, check for leaks etc...)
An extra oil change cant hurt you. Just my opinion
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1) I and a "severe" driver (maybe just agressive, but still...I'll err on the conservative side)
2) much easier to remember 3l, 6k,9k,12k,15k,18k,21,24k,27k,30k...( bigger services in bold)
3) I agree with Gomez that oil is cheap
4) I am lazy and do not want to buy another car anytime soon, so I take the most conservative approach.
The 3k schedule allows me to run a little (late) on the service and not feel like I did a major Faux Pas. It also gives me the chance to inspect everything every 3k for any other issues (nails in tire, tar on car, clean out wells, check for leaks etc...)
An extra oil change cant hurt you. Just my opinion
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1999 Satin Silver TL Dunlop SP9000 215-45/17-mounted on CL-S 17" Rims
H&R Springs-Axiss MetalMasterPads-Crossdrilled Rotors
-Inspire Tailights-20/30/40 tint
Y2k S2K Honda Roadster
- Mingster Aeroscreen, Smokin Front mesh Grill, Clear Sidemarkers...
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I change my oil every 3500 miles. I have done this in every car i have owned. I have a 35 minute drive to work and spend a total of 10 minutes of that time on the expressway, so i might say its "severe" conditions.
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Hey guys, speak for yourself: I pride myself in being "normal!"
This is a good way to err on the safe side... but I have my opinion, too.
2) For every 5 oil changes you do, I do only two.
3) Oil is cheap... on your wallet. The environmental cost of manufacturing, distributing, and disposing of oil is very expensive to the earth and to international politics.
4) The engine will not likely be the thing to expire on your car first. Usually you will find a much better reason to trade in your Honda than the engine.
I dunno... just my opinion.
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Originally posted by yu888:
2) much easier to remember 3l, 6k,9k,12k,15k,18k,21,24k,27k,30k...( bigger services in bold)
3) I agree with Gomez that oil is cheap
4) I am lazy and do not want to buy another car anytime soon
2) much easier to remember 3l, 6k,9k,12k,15k,18k,21,24k,27k,30k...( bigger services in bold)
3) I agree with Gomez that oil is cheap
4) I am lazy and do not want to buy another car anytime soon
2) For every 5 oil changes you do, I do only two.
3) Oil is cheap... on your wallet. The environmental cost of manufacturing, distributing, and disposing of oil is very expensive to the earth and to international politics.
4) The engine will not likely be the thing to expire on your car first. Usually you will find a much better reason to trade in your Honda than the engine.
I dunno... just my opinion.
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2000 3.2 TL, Paper maps.
Comptech axle-back exhaust.
225/55ZR-16 RE730s on OEM alloys.
205/55QR-16 Alpins on steel wheels w/covers (winter).
Pictures
Originally posted by oracion:
Most (if not all) dealers suggest changing the oil at every 3750 mi, but the manual says every 7500 mi. Is that necessary to do it at 3500? What are the pros and cons of doing that more frequently than what the manual suggests?
Most (if not all) dealers suggest changing the oil at every 3750 mi, but the manual says every 7500 mi. Is that necessary to do it at 3500? What are the pros and cons of doing that more frequently than what the manual suggests?
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Originally posted by magnetic1:
most of us do not drive in 'dusty conditions' these are SEVERE conditions... not the majority.. if it were the majority.. the manufacturer would just recommend 3k.
SEVERE is like pizza delivery men, that ype of driving... I doubt many people are using their TLs as pizza delivery cars
most of us do not drive in 'dusty conditions' these are SEVERE conditions... not the majority.. if it were the majority.. the manufacturer would just recommend 3k.
SEVERE is like pizza delivery men, that ype of driving... I doubt many people are using their TLs as pizza delivery cars

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'01 White Diamond Pearl 3.2TL
-Wing, tint, burlwood shift, Whistler 6-band
'88 White RX-7 Convertible
-Permanent tinitus courtesy of Rockford-Fosgate
Originally posted by 99WDP:
Every 3000 miles on dealer recommendation. I purchased the lifetime oil changes for $100 when I bought the car so now the dealer is paying for all my changes.
Every 3000 miles on dealer recommendation. I purchased the lifetime oil changes for $100 when I bought the car so now the dealer is paying for all my changes.
Lifetime oil changes? You guys are lucky. I only got two free oil changes when I bought my car and had to ask for them. The dealer charges $26.95 for an oil change.
When the car was new, the dealer recommended 7500 miles in between changes. I used up my free oil changes and guess what? Now the dealer suggets changing the oil every 3000 miles.
When the car was new, the dealer recommended 7500 miles in between changes. I used up my free oil changes and guess what? Now the dealer suggets changing the oil every 3000 miles.
Originally posted by 2000 TL:
Lifetime oil changes? You guys are lucky. I only got two free oil changes when I bought my car and had to ask for them. The dealer charges $26.95 for an oil change.
When the car was new, the dealer recommended 7500 miles in between changes. I used up my free oil changes and guess what? Now the dealer suggets changing the oil every 3000 miles.
Lifetime oil changes? You guys are lucky. I only got two free oil changes when I bought my car and had to ask for them. The dealer charges $26.95 for an oil change.
When the car was new, the dealer recommended 7500 miles in between changes. I used up my free oil changes and guess what? Now the dealer suggets changing the oil every 3000 miles.
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