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Old 02-19-2007, 01:22 PM
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need new brake pads and rotors

sorry if this has been covered but i searched "brake pads" and came up with a lot of different subjects.

anyways, my pads are wearing down and i guess ill just change the rotors as well to look cool =]

what are some good pads and rotors out there that arent gonna cost me a fortune
Old 02-19-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
sorry if this has been covered but i searched "brake pads" and came up with a lot of different subjects.

anyways, my pads are wearing down and i guess ill just change the rotors as well to look cool =]

what are some good pads and rotors out there that arent gonna cost me a fortune

I replaced my fronts with Brembo blanks from tirerack.com for about $60 per rotor ( vs. $100 for Honda OEM). I also got Akebano brake pads (~$50).

Its a cheaper & better alternative. Also, if you have the work done yourself of by non-dealer you will save tons of money.
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I like the HAWP HPS pads for all around stopping and no noise

ON the cheap- go to NAPA parts and get the American Made rotors- they also have import ones for a buck less- buy American!

Want to spend a bit more?

acurazine vendor MrHeelToe has Racing Brake brand slotted rotors. Work better than stock and many other brands. He has a special on now for acurazine members
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Make sure to read up in how to break in new brakes and rotors
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Wow, Havent posted anything on this forum in forever. I been away from it for hot minute lately. But whatever, for those that do know who i am, im still around. If i were you, and like you i will be chaning my rotors and pads very soon here, Im gona get the ROTORA Slotted rotors (all 4) and Rotora Ceramic Pads. If your gona change the whole thing, Upgrade to the slotted rotors, your gona get better braking, better looks, and just str8 good performance. I NEED IT, my stock rotors are warped to shit. They've been cut once already and lasted for a lil while but then went back to warped and now its so bad that after one hard braking time while driving, from there on, every time i break, everything just SHAKES TO SHIT, feels like my front wheels are gona fly off LMAO. There just old stock rotors that are done for. But yea, GO BIG OR GO HOME lol.
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The guy does not want to spend much money, so with that in mind, Brembo blanks and Akebono pads is a cheaper and better set up than OEM.
See if your rotors can be resurfaced, then you can just get new pads.
I got my akebono from rockauto.com, good prices & service.
Old 02-19-2007, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
sorry if this has been covered but i searched "brake pads" and came up with a lot of different subjects.
Missed the 'Rotor and pad combo' thread on the first page of the Problems forum huh?
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I recently put in brembo blanks with the satisfied pro brake pads from tirerack.com and I'm very happy with them. Much better than stock oem.
Old 02-19-2007, 09:00 PM
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The rotor and pad combos in the group buy forum are pretty good deals. I went with Rotora Slotted Rotors and Hawk Ceramic pads and the set up as worked like a charm. My rotors were warped prior to replacing them and shook the steering wheel like a mofo.

Check it out.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1&page=1&pp=25
It is being sold by Excelerate, and he's got tons of good feedback from many members here.
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For those interested in serious rotors, go to the website for the makers and compare features

www.rotora.com sold by Excellerate
and www.racingbrake.com sold by Mr Heel Toe

My personal preferance is the American made Racing Brake brand, the performance division of a major OE brake parts supplier

Ceramic pads are nice if you really worry about noise and dust

I use the HAWK HPS High Performance Street and they work in all conditions from dead cold to track days braking from 120 to 40 a number of times in a session

All that, and still wife approvd for grocery store runs!

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Old 02-20-2007, 06:19 PM
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anything wrong with ebay rotors?
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
anything wrong with ebay rotors?
You get what you pay for.
Old 02-20-2007, 06:32 PM
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i mean, are they gonna crack on me or something?
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
i mean, are they gonna crack on me or something?
How can anyone answer this question? We aren't prophets, peering into the future. Read some threads by people who bought cheap rotors. Why buy something that's no better, and perhaps worse, than OEM? If you want something that will warp, buy cheap.

If you had bothered to read other threads you'd know you won't go wrong with Rotora slotted rotors and EBC Greenstuff from Excelerate.
Old 02-20-2007, 07:49 PM
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If you want something cheap but decent quality go with Raybestos.
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I just picked up some Racingbrake rotors not too long ago in the groupbuy section... I'll be putting them on soon.
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Mike you don't never give the ones who don't search a break huh? gotta bash them everytime lol
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i got EBC fron rotors and red stuff pads, works great smooth stoping when u need it and great at high speeds and agressive braking. recently put them on and can't complain.
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Originally Posted by '03TL-S
Mike you don't never give the ones who don't search a break huh? gotta bash them everytime lol
This didn't even take a search, a simple reading of thread titles was all that was needed. Guilty as charged, I have a problem with lazy people, not to mention people who have been a member for 7 months and have over 1,300 posts claiming to not know what good rotors and pads are.
Old 02-21-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MikePA
This didn't even take a search, a simple reading of thread titles was all that was needed. Guilty as charged, I have a problem with lazy people, not to mention people who have been a member for 7 months and have over 1,300 posts claiming to not know what good rotors and pads are.
lol. you maddd you maddd
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When it comes to brakes I believe in spending a few dollars more for bettter parts.
I feel they are the MOST important component of the car

The reduced stopping distance good parts will provide- can- mean the differance between stopping suddenly and safely, and looking sadly at the front of a steaming pile of parts that used to be your car.

If an ebay seller can tell you the background of a rotor- buy it and let us know if it works!

In the meantime -use the already recommended products
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Get your new brakes on yet?

Working good for you?
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I'm putting on new rotors. Not yet, hoping to get it done this week.
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i've changed brake pads on my cars before but never the rotors. When changing the rotors, do i have to do anything to them before putting them on the car (i.e., turning them)?? Or is it simply just taking them out of the box and putting them directly on the car?
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DO NOT TURN NEW ROTORS

That defeats the purpose

Some -any brand- brake parts spray cleaner- sprayed on the contact surfaces of the rotors- is all you need to do. Wipe dry with lint free cloth if possible
Depending on what rotors and pads combo you went with, there are different methods of bedding in the pads- ie: to leave a surface material on the rotor from the pad- increases stopping, decrease wear on rotor

See other threads on replace front brakes for all the tips you need
Hang the calipers from a coathanger while working on rotors to prevent falling and breaking of parts or hand
Borrow or buy a disc caliper tool that pushes the piston back in evenly- or a c- clamp works in a pinch ( no pun intended)

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by TLover8888
i've changed brake pads on my cars before but never the rotors. When changing the rotors, do i have to do anything to them before putting them on the car (i.e., turning them)?? Or is it simply just taking them out of the box and putting them directly on the car?
About all you need to do is get some brake clean and clean the rotors of any packing oil
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i'm going with slotted Rotora's and Hawk HP pads in the summer. I need the performance feel of solid strong brakes and OEM brakes aren't made for fast stops at all. PLus OEM is a huge ripoff. I'll be installing myself to save money, I'm sure I'm in for some fun as I have never done brake work before, but that's how you learn right.
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thanks for the tips!
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Originally Posted by sbuswell
...I have never done brake work before, but that's how you learn right.

oh boy

i'll keep my
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Like others said, you get what you pay for with the eBay rotors. After reading many threads on here, I am going with the Rotora slotted and EBC Greenstuff pads. I have heard excellent things about them and you can get a good deal on them from our vendor, Excelerate, who we should support since they are what make the site free for us to use.
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Let me chime in on Racingbrake really quick....

NO other rotor can compare with them. Custom alloy. Heat treatment. Curved vanes. These three factors mean that warping is a thing of the past. RESURFACING will become a thing of the past. Expect 2-3 times the life of any other brake rotor.

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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
These three factors mean that warping is a thing of the past. RESURFACING will become a thing of the past. Expect 2-3 times the life of any other brake rotor.
If warping and resurfacing are 'things of the past', why wouldn't these rotors last a lifetime instead of just 2 - 3 times any other brake rotor?
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If warping and resurfacing are 'things of the past', why wouldn't these rotors last a lifetime instead of just 2 - 3 times any other brake rotor?


Just because these rotors don't warp and are considerably less likely to need resurfacing does not mean they don't wear out. Brakes are a wear item.


With that being said........I have a customer with a Legacy Outback Wagon, flat 6, awd car. Very heavy car. Stock trim, it has brake rotors about the size of a TSX or TL, and there are dual piston calipers from the factory. So you get smallish rotors, smallish pads, and HIGH caliper pressure. There is a lot of heat buildup and not a lot of ability to dissipate it. She was warping rotors in under 8000 miles. Then did it again in another 5000 miles.

We tossed on the Racingbrake UP rotors up front, and some HPS pads all around. That was 3 years ago. Since then, we have replaced the pads two times. That is it. No resurfacing, no shaking, no warping, no nuthing. We have about 22,000 miles on these rotors and not so much as a lip has formed on the edge. 2-3 times the life really is rather conservative. She also reported better braking with more confidence in stopping ability within 5 min of leaving my garage.


I was sold instantly. I will never recommend another rotor unless someone come up with something better. Nobody can compete.

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Acura-TL-c-1805.html

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Brakes operate on the physics of friction and heat transfer to accomplish their mission

Some metal from the rotors and some material from the pads wear every time you push the pedal. Thats why there are measurements of minimum allowable size on both

BMW uses super hard pads and soft rotors. that means you dont get to resurface even once! Its replace all everytime!!!

RB rotors are specially heat treated, will last thru 2 sets of pads without any warping- which is part of why others need resurfacing.

For most owners- that is a lifetime of car ownership!

Cutting the rotors shaves life off them- and is very difficult to do with the standard machines found in shops. ASK your local place how much to turn slotted rotors,
and drilled- forget resurfacing.

For details and how to be an EDUCATED consumer go to www.racingbrake.com
before knocking a product.
Or buy those cheap crap rotors and in a year get back to us on how great they are while you replace them again etc!
Maybe you shoul go to Midas for some lifetime parts- its your life- trust it to whatever parts you want
Do you also believe that spark plugs are at full spec performance to 100 thou miles?

Thats another good one!
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And for a little more info on pads go to hawkperformance.com the companys website

from there:
Q: Why should I follow a break-in procedure on new brake pads?
A: Correct brake pad break-in (bedding) is important to assure quality braking performance over the life of the pad. This procedure allows the rubbing surface of the brake pad to be brought to temperatures, creating a transfer-film layer of friction material to be applied to the rotor surface. This allows the brake pad material to rub against itself rather than the bare rotor. This increases the stopping performance of the brake pad and can reduce pad and rotor wear.
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I like a company that can tell me about its product.
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
lol. you maddd you maddd
lol! u stupid. hit up excelerate for some slotted rotoras and pads. i bought my rotors and pads from him for about 460 i think. but i hear hawk pads are really good too

btw i dont feel much of a diff as far OEM rotors/pads but i kno if u get stainless steel brakelines you'd feel the difference.
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Know what you are talking about before making claims

I can show you several scientific reasons Racing Brake rotors blow away the other brands

If you cant tell your Hawk pads stop the car way better- you may need to re-bed them

SS Brake lines do not make the car stop better- they increase the pedal feel by reducing mushiness
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^thats what i meant about the brake lines and im using rotora pads...
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Mr Heel Toe has a special for gen2 TL

Front UP-Ultra Perormance rotors with HAWK HPS pads 306
Front and Rear UP rotors with Hawk Pads $512
thats shipped to your door

Compare the manufaturing differance between the two brands
and understand what makes one better
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The forum link for MrHeel Toe and the crzy low price on rotor/pad combo

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...7&page=1&pp=25
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Just got my Racingbrake rotors installed... left the OEM brake pads on there though... do i still need to bed in the brakes?


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