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Old 09-07-2001, 09:13 AM
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Last night, around midnight, I was driving in Washington D.C. down Michigan Avenue when I pulled up to a guy in a CL-S at a red light. We had the traditional eyeing of each others cars. When the light turned green we both punched it. I pulled out with over a 1/2 car length for a while untill we reached around 70, when I slowed down, because we were actually only in a 35 mph zone.

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P.S.- Oh yeah that was with 6 people in my car, and only one in his!!!
Old 09-07-2001, 09:52 AM
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Good kill, I think! But I think the guy in the CLS just don't know how to drive.
Old 09-07-2001, 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by TypeSDragon
Good kill, I think! But I think the guy in the CLS just don't know how to drive.
I'd have to agree.... our cars are basically identical (stock) and if you had 6 people in your car, he should have had the edge. Good kill though....it's not your fault he can't drive!!
Old 09-07-2001, 01:33 PM
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the cl driver wasnt racing you
Old 09-07-2001, 01:37 PM
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hey i live right in va. try to be at the next nova/md/dc meet.
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Damn, how the hell did you fit 6 people into your TL-S?
BTW, nice kill!
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wow good kill with 6 people in the car, AND your system that you got there..... you sure the CL wasnt a CL-P?
Old 09-07-2001, 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by BlackShadow
Damn, how the hell did you fit 6 people into your TL-S?
BTW, nice kill!
Oops, that was counting the dead bodies in the trunk.
Old 09-08-2001, 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by TypeSDragon
Good kill, I think! But I think the guy in the CLS just don't know how to drive.
I agree with your comment, but disagree in this case. How hard is it to mash the gas of an automatic tranny. I agree with mchtypes, he wasn't racing. No way in hell that a TLS with 6 people would beat a 1 man CLS, unless the CLS is all f@cked up or something.
Old 09-08-2001, 12:28 AM
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I think the guy wasnt racing you, you'd be surprised by how many people in acura's just think you are immature by takin off wit a bang... By tha way, why dont you shot us a holla dogg and let us see a pic of this lightning fast TL of yours playboy...Shyne
Old 09-08-2001, 03:14 PM
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Yeah...probably wasn't racing...and let off after a bit.

mchTypeS.....curious about your 'port and polish.' How much did it cost you? Did you feel a significant boost for what you paid compared to the rest of your mods. I am interested in doing the same. Also, any take on doing the traditional 'port' method v. Extrudehone or something?
Old 09-09-2001, 11:27 PM
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Hey meloHYPE.

Pay no mind to those skeptics. They think that if they can't beat a certain car then no one else can either. :p

The guy probably had a slow one or maybe he wasn't any good. But a guy that hits 70 in a 35 was without a doubt trying to race.

Just be safe and enjoy your victory.

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Originally posted by Ruf87
But a guy that hits 70 in a 35 was without a doubt trying to race.
Very true.
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Let me get this right.

You have a system in your trunk so your rear is already weighted. You had 6 people in your car (let's say 150 lbs avg) that's 900 lbs.

And you beat him by 1/2 a car length.

And the CL is no slouch.

Given that the cars are basically identical sounds fishy to me.
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could it be....

CL-P with CL-S emblem?




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Originally posted by Non-Believer
Yeah...probably wasn't racing...and let off after a bit.

mchTypeS.....curious about your 'port and polish.' How much did it cost you? Did you feel a significant boost for what you paid compared to the rest of your mods. I am interested in doing the same. Also, any take on doing the traditional 'port' method v. Extrudehone or something?
Well, I know you addressed this to mchTypeS -- his poor Rick Case 3.5L was lifted by car scum, and he found it in a dirty pond.

The port and polish is part of the 3.5L upgrade for the CLS/TLS.

If you want to know more, leave syncivic a note -- I don't know if they only do it as a "whole" 3.5L upgrade package.

I would also like to know what a super quality extrude hone would do for the car.

I would guess that the gains (for the CLS/TLS) would be less than those produced for some of the “crusty” intake manifolds that some poor cars get... (Just my opinion)
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I agree with your comment, but disagree in this case. How hard is it to mash the gas of an automatic tranny. I agree with mchtypes, he wasn't racing. No way in hell that a TLS with 6 people would beat a 1 man CLS, unless the CLS is all f@cked up or something.
That's the first thing I thought too but he could have been trying to race with SS and shifted while the RPMs were low......
Old 09-10-2001, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Crzy Acura
wow good kill with 6 people in the car, AND your system that you got there..... you sure the CL wasnt a CL-P?
EXUCSE ME!!!! Wait a minute here, what make you think a TypeS with 6 people can kill a CLP? They aint slow.... My CLP always win stock TypeS with just CAI and pulleys, so CLP is not that slow after all....
Old 09-10-2001, 03:31 PM
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BTW, dun get soo happy if you beat a CLS if you have 6 people in the car..... Obviously he is not racing you... think about it, both cars are same motor, same weight... and you have 6 people in the car... lets say 120lbs each, thats 600lbs + 3500lbs, thats 4100lbs.... Wat make you think you can beat a TypeS????

There is like a simple equation, but somewat accurate about how fast will you run:

Weight / horsepower / 2.1

So lets say stcok car is 3500lbs
3500 / 260 / 2.1 = 6.41sec

Your car with 6 people, lets say 120lbs Each!
4220 / 260 / 2.1 = 7.7sec

With that time, pretty much an Accord could beat it..... so I dun think he race you... I dun think you need to know how to drive the car inorder to beat a TypeS with 6 people! Well fact is fact, i guess you should say I PASSED a CLS instead of beat it!
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First rule of "posting about kills":
Don't post about kills.

Everyone will give you their 2 cents of magizine logic on how you're wrong.

if he was racing... you won
if he wan't racing... you still won
if he has a bad actuator... you still won
if it was a rebadged CL-P... YUP. you still won
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Originally posted by Closer
First rule of "posting about kills":
Don't post about kills.

Everyone will give you their 2 cents of magizine logic on how you're wrong.

if he was racing... you won
if he wan't racing... you still won
if he has a bad actuator... you still won
if it was a rebadged CL-P... YUP. you still won
It is official, we have a winner! meloHYPE!!!

OK, let's all move on.
Old 09-10-2001, 11:32 PM
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Damn, in that case I wanna make sure I never run into you in my 540i cuz based on those stats, hell you'll kill my 540i if it's just you in the car. j/k

I was thinking about what juniorbean said, and perhaps the guy was shifting early in his SS which would say 1 or 2 things, he's an idiot of a racer, or he's just scared to open that baby up.
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Originally posted by Closer
First rule of "posting about kills":
Don't post about kills.

Everyone will give you their 2 cents of magizine logic on how you're wrong.

if he was racing... you won
if he wan't racing... you still won
if he has a bad actuator... you still won
if it was a rebadged CL-P... YUP. you still won
Nice response Closer!

People forget that it's not the stats that are being challenged in posting a kill.
I don't give a rip about a car that is faster than mine because it's me against him and his car. Not his car's stats against mine. If it weren't then this is how a race might take place.

"Hey bud, you wanna race? Ya sure. Okay pull over. Okay man, show me your published car rags results. No man you you me yours first. Okay, 0-60 in 6.28 and the 1/4 mile in 14.72 at 97.6MPH. Hey wait a minute. What magazine is that? MT! I don't recognize their results as the offical results for that car."

Guys, let me tell you. It is a fact that the faster car does lose sometimes. Don't think so, go to a real drag racing strip and see for yourselves.

Also, it's who gets from point A to point B that wins. And that is definately not always the faster car. That's why I know that I can beat a faster car from time to time. If you can't understand that, then you don't know anything about racing.

No where is that pesky GS400. I need to add their emblem to my kill list on my left front fender. :p

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