My TL-P is overrated???
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My TL-P is overrated???
whenever somebody sees my car they automatically assumes it's a type-S, almost 9 out of 10 guys, esp when i am on the track~
and their reaction always is "oh it's not a type-S?? i thoguth it's a type-S"
that shows most of the ppl do not know the difference between the regular and the type-S
anyone has such situations b4? with ppl think ur car is a type-S?
and their reaction always is "oh it's not a type-S?? i thoguth it's a type-S"
that shows most of the ppl do not know the difference between the regular and the type-S
anyone has such situations b4? with ppl think ur car is a type-S?
Well, that doesn't mean they don't know the difference between the two models.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
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From: NJ
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Well, that doesn't mean they don't know the difference between the two models.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
couldnt have said it better myself!
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Well, that doesn't mean they don't know the difference between the two models.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
I know the differences, but I thought it was a Type-S. From the outside, the only way to tell is the wheels, and you had already swapped those out with the TSX ones. So until I saw the interior, I thought it was a Type-S.
Now why would I make that assumption? I just don't see that manyPremium owners modifying their cars as much as Type-S owners. The Type-S is a better foundation for modifying, and it would be a natural human error to assume that it was a Type-S. Nothing wrong with modifying a Premium, though. Who cares as long as you like it? It's your car.
Rob your car is way too underrated coz it's a SSM TL, I would think it's a TL-P
j/k
btw...wanna come up and meet me at the track? some dude in a prelude wants to smoke the TL LOL
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From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by khoifl
Can a 01 SH manual prelude w/ i/e/h smoke a stock TL-P?
Originally Posted by samkws
LOL
Rob your car is way too underrated coz it's a SSM TL, I would think it's a TL-P
j/k
btw...wanna come up and meet me at the track? some dude in a prelude wants to smoke the TL LOL
Rob your car is way too underrated coz it's a SSM TL, I would think it's a TL-P
j/k
btw...wanna come up and meet me at the track? some dude in a prelude wants to smoke the TL LOL
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It is impossible to tell from outside the car (assuming you can't see the seats) whether it's a P or S if you've replaced the rims. My car is stock so no one ever has a problem distinguishing between it. 
BTW Dark Inspire, that Maybach coupe you have as your avatar... am I the only one who, if I owned it, would be tempted to shout "..TO THE BATMOBILE!" to passengers?
BTW Dark Inspire, that Maybach coupe you have as your avatar... am I the only one who, if I owned it, would be tempted to shout "..TO THE BATMOBILE!" to passengers?
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From: SacTown n CowTown
Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
It is impossible to tell from outside the car (assuming you can't see the seats) whether it's a P or S if you've replaced the rims. My car is stock so no one ever has a problem distinguishing between it.
BTW Dark Inspire, that Maybach coupe you have as your avatar... am I the only one who, if I owned it, would be tempted to shout "..TO THE BATMOBILE!" to passengers?
BTW Dark Inspire, that Maybach coupe you have as your avatar... am I the only one who, if I owned it, would be tempted to shout "..TO THE BATMOBILE!" to passengers?
well a lil while ago i did have "The Batmobile" written under my username, so ur not the only one
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i have been asked that dozens of times and I have stock tl-p rims, most people don't have a clue. a stock tl-p should beat a stock prelude SH, but it would be close, they are between 195-200HP not 210 though.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
In Canada? Still no papers; the embassy has my passport.
if not come up in sep or oct as there will be a couple more track days (road course), and u can stay at my place for the weekend~
Originally Posted by samkws
what takes so long? should be no more than 3 weeks~
if not come up in sep or oct as there will be a couple more track days (road course), and u can stay at my place for the weekend~
if not come up in sep or oct as there will be a couple more track days (road course), and u can stay at my place for the weekend~
Speed Trials are coming to Gingerman in October.
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Originally Posted by khoifl
are you sure? Because 01 SH prelude is 210hp or somewhere around there.
I am positive. since a 2001 Prelude has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 200 @ 7000
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
But a TL-P has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 215 @ 470
AND that proves that TL is way FASTER
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Originally Posted by ara606
I am positive. since a 2001 Prelude has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 200 @ 7000
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
But a TL-P has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 215 @ 470
AND that proves that TL is way FASTER
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 200 @ 7000
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
But a TL-P has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 215 @ 470
AND that proves that TL is way FASTER
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
Ummm.. you don't take anything but HP and TQ figures into account? Weight, gearing, etc be damned?
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Originally Posted by ara606
Torque is calculated based on weight and HP. So I believe a car with a greater torque is actually FASTER.
Oh well, I lost to my friend prelude once but I had extra 400lbs on my car
in addition to 500lbs of the difference between the two (total of 900lbs). Not to mention, he had manual car with i/e/h and mine is stock. Oh well, it can't be direct comparasion anyway, one is sport and another is luxury. No matter what, I still love my car
In addition, I have smoother and more comfortable ride 
. Anyway, if I were for speed, I would pick s2k instead of tl.
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Originally Posted by ara606
Torque is calculated based on weight and HP. So I believe a car with a greater torque is actually FASTER.
Torque is calculated based on weight? How is that?
You need to do some serious reading and comprehending before you start talking about this stuff as if you're an expert.
How do you explain the S2000 being faster than the TL?
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Originally Posted by ara606
Torque is calculated based on weight and HP. So I believe a car with a greater torque is actually FASTER.
Torque has nothing to do with weight. If all cars with more torque were faster, then most SUV's out there would be laying waste to all of us at every single light.
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From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by Mr Hyde
Say what???? Torque has nothing to do with weight.
If all cars with more torque were faster, then most SUV's out there would be laying waste to all of us at every single light.
Torque has nothing to do with weight. If all cars with more torque were faster, then most SUV's out there would be laying waste to all of us at every single light.
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From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by ara606
Sorry guys for the wrong assumption!
But I still think that a stock TLP-P will beat a 2001 Prelude with mods.
But I still think that a stock TLP-P will beat a 2001 Prelude with mods.
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99-01 TL VS 02-03 TL/TL-S
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Headlights--larger, bolder
Grill--larger, bolder
Taillights--orange vs. clear signal lights
Rims
Seats
Radio
A few other things....here and there..
Most important give aways would be tailights and front end..and rims, but ppl change those out so much.
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Headlights--larger, bolder
Grill--larger, bolder
Taillights--orange vs. clear signal lights
Rims
Seats
Radio
A few other things....here and there..
Most important give aways would be tailights and front end..and rims, but ppl change those out so much.
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From: Denver, Co.
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
like i said before, it will. i have beat my friend with the same mods listed and have never lost. all i have is comptech mufflers (which dont add any hp) and a K&N
Oh wait... your not the HP sticker kind are ya??
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i think a prelude with i/h/e Manual would beat a stock tl-p and maybe even a modded one(good race). BUTTT its all on the driver, the car can loose to a geo metro if the person dont know how to drive. A buddy of mine has i/e in his prelude and ran a 14.5. I think him driving his ride would beat a modded tl-p. Oh wait, lol i have a modded tl-p... Time to race my buddy in the lude? lol we'll see... If I loose i'll race him in the se-r 
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Originally Posted by BLaCk Acc
i think a prelude with i/h/e Manual would beat a stock tl-p and maybe even a modded one(good race). BUTTT its all on the driver, the car can loose to a geo metro if the person dont know how to drive. A buddy of mine has i/e in his prelude and ran a 14.5. I think him driving his ride would beat a modded tl-p. Oh wait, lol i have a modded tl-p... Time to race my buddy in the lude? lol we'll see... If I loose i'll race him in the se-r
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Originally Posted by ara606
I am positive. since a 2001 Prelude has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 200 @ 7000
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
But a TL-P has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 215 @ 470
AND that proves that TL is way FASTER
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 200 @ 7000
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 156 @ 5250
But a TL-P has:
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 215 @ 470
AND that proves that TL is way FASTER
04 Accord Coupe EXV6 5 speed Auto
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 240 @ 6250
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 212 @ 5000
02-03 TL-P 5 speed Auto +/-
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 225 @ 5600
Torque(lb.-ft. @ rpm): 216 @ 4700
Accord has more HP , but less torque and also high RPM