My Personal Performance Specs on TL-S

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Old 03-18-2001, 04:36 PM
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I have to admit -- conditions are key:

Here are the ingredients for a perfect run:

-1/4 tank of gas (less weight)
-Only one person in the TL-S (see above)
-Dry road, um, duh
-Sequential Sportshift in operation, VSC off
(VSC takes some juice away from acceleration by helping moderate the lateral movement using ABS)
-Good reaction time: at green punch it 75% until traction cntrl is over, then 100%
- 1st gear: 7000 rpms -- use that VTEC to your advantage
- 2nd gear: 6000 -- you'll find that 3rd has more of a pull by shifting slightly early
- 3rd -- use all you got here, cuz it plateaus early on in 4th!! 7000 rpm
- 4th -- well, at this point you've achieved the 60 mph spec, now you're racing for the 1/4 mile time

My personal results (sorry, I had too):

0-60mph 6.3 seconds
1/4 14.9

Not too bad

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Old 03-18-2001, 05:00 PM
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Nice - have you tried identical setup but with full automatic?
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Originally posted by PeterUbers:
I have to admit -- conditions are key:

Here are the ingredients for a perfect run:

-1/4 tank of gas (less weight)
-Only one person in the TL-S (see above)
-Dry road, um, duh
-Sequential Sportshift in operation, VSC off
(VSC takes some juice away from acceleration by helping moderate the lateral movement using ABS)
-Good reaction time: at green punch it 75% until traction cntrl is over, then 100%
- 1st gear: 7000 rpms -- use that VTEC to your advantage
- 2nd gear: 6000 -- you'll find that 3rd has more of a pull by shifting slightly early
- 3rd -- use all you got here, cuz it plateaus early on in 4th!! 7000 rpm
- 4th -- well, at this point you've achieved the 60 mph spec, now you're racing for the 1/4 mile time

My personal results (sorry, I had too):

0-60mph 6.3 seconds
1/4 14.9

Not too bad

Good run. But the 3rd gear will accelerate like a demon to about 100mph....and it is better to pull in 3rd than 4th, since 4th and 5th are overdrive gears..



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I haven't tried times with the automatic D5, but I suspect (after having revved pretty high in D5 in a semi-race) that it would be slower --

Ideally, the computer doesn't want the car to use all of the tranny's potential -- and let the engine rev too hard during a D5 full throttle acceleration. It would be excessive engine wear -- so, the caveat is, use the SS at your own peril -- just as a motorist with a manual tranny does with his car. I could be wrong, but just my take.

I didn't know that both 4th and 5th were overdrive -- actually, now that I look at the gear ratios:
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1st: 2.563
2nd: 1.551
3rd: 1.021
4th: 0.653
5th: 0.470

Fourth and fifth ARE pretty flat -- makes sense -- who'd be racing after 100?? (me!)

I let my buddy w/ the Regal GSE drive my car today -- he has driven the IS300 extensively in test drives, and he said the car is significantly quicker, but doesn't handle nearly as well -- prob. due to the front-wheel drive in some respects and the higher suspension.


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3rd gear in my 2000 TL takes me to 100MPH (could hold it a tad longer using SS to bump the cutoff) so it stands to reason that, in a TL-S/CL-S that has the exact same gear ratios and final drive ratio but a higher redline, you'd be able to go faster in any given gear (save for when aerodynamic drag pulls in the reins)

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You actually went zero to sixty in 6.3seconds in a 2002 TL-S?
That is darn fast!

I'm impressed.

That beats the BMW 330i from what I can tell.
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A 330i manual transmission will do mid to upper 5 secs on a 0-60 quite easily. Though the 6.3 is quite comparable to an auto 330i. But considering the TL-S has more power, it ought to be faster.
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A 330 will do mid to upper 5's. Who says?!

My M3 would not do that consitently.

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Originally posted by s2ktaxi:
A 330i manual transmission will do mid to upper 5 secs on a 0-60 quite easily. Though the 6.3 is quite comparable to an auto 330i. But considering the TL-S has more power, it ought to be faster.
I don't think the Auto 330i would come anywhere close to 6.3Secs 0-60, even though the gearing of the BMW is pretty aggressive.....

In the hands of professional testers of Road and Track, with power-braking and whatnot, the 330i with manual transmission managed a 0-60 of 6.2 secs (Road and Track, January 2001).....in the hands of common folks like you and me, no way can the BMW even touch that figure....so to make un-substantiated claims like the "manual BMW easily doing 0-60 of mid 5s" and whatnot, does not sound very credible...if it is an apples-to-apples auto transmissioned BMW, I predict that the TL-s would humiliate it in acceleration....even though the BMW would edge the TL-s out in handling in bone dry weather, while the TL-s would out-handle the BMW in anything but bone-dry conditions....

just my 2c



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the 1/4 mile is the more important number.
I think the VTEC would outperform the Bimmer 330i.
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My sincerest apologies... the high 5's 0-60 number I quoted was with a slightly modded 330i. C&D posts a 6.1 time for the 330i with manual transmission.
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Originally posted by PeterUbers:
I have to admit -- conditions are key:

Here are the ingredients for a perfect run:

- 4th -- well, at this point you've achieved the 60 mph spec, now you're racing for the 1/4 mile time

you don't need 4th for a quarter mile run in the type s. third is good for over 100mph (110 maybe?) and your terminal speed in the quarter will most likely be between 90 and 95mph.
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Try racing it in full auto (D5) mode. The guys in the CL-S' prefer this over SS and actually think it's quicker. Since the cars are basically the same, the results could be too. Give it a shot!!



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Originally posted by juniorbean:


Try racing it in full auto (D5) mode. The guys in the CL-S' prefer this over SS and actually think it's quicker. Since the cars are basically the same, the results could be too. Give it a shot!!

i just got my TL-S yesterday, love the car.. but more on the topic, my '00 TL did the 1/4 @ 91, which should place the TL-S right around 93-94... and also, if u use auto, go into D4 it will give you much crisper acceleration... it worked the same way on 93 maxima, when u took off the over-drive (4th) it had much better pickup.



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