I gave my car an oil change today, inspected the brakes... The rotors need to be changed again, even after the first replacement by the dealer at 11,350 miles. I have now 17,100 miles and they need to be changed again. I can't believe this! Of all the car's I've owned, never have I had this problem before! My friend at the shop looked up the directory on the computer for recalls but it only listed up to '97, and the '97 TL had a recall on drums/rotors.. This is driving me crazy.. Now what? Go back to the dealer and B!tch some more? Also, My seat heater isn't working! It doesn't work in low, it works in high..does that make any sense?
Ed

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I just hit 20k and mine are acting up as well...he saved them once and said he will only do it once and next time he will have to charge me. Whenever I am braking from like 40mph the car shimmeys and I can feel it on the steering wheel.. i know the alignment and balancing is ok because i had it checked out. I really hate going back all the time and am second guessing the tl-s and was looking into the es300 (but it doesn't have navi ).

 

Are you sure it just isnt the way you drive, perhaps too much racing and braking? I've had cars with over 150,000 miles and never needed the rotors replaced.

If you are using the car for performance driving you should consider drilled rotors and EBC Kevlar brake pads, perhaps that will help.
http://www.ebc-brakes.com/autopads.htm

 

Avatar, I had three cars, my driving style never changed, and I'm only having a problem with this car.
Ed

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Even though I'm sure the dealer does't believe me I don't race or am i hard on the brakes, but seeing a 22 year old walk in it doesn't matter what i say cause he does't believe me. I am bringing it on soon for an oil change and to fix some rattles (shocka) and will tell him that the brakes still have a problem. We'll see what happens...

 

maybe its the aftermarket brake pads

are rotors considered to be a wear and tear part? if they are not, even if you rev to the red, and brake like a lunatic 100 times a day, its still covered

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That's what I thought, Mr. TL, but the pads and rotors were changed the first time before I even changed to high performance pads. I bought the new pads and installed them when I had the new rotors put on..the factory pad's dont have 100 miles on them..
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That stinks. Is this rotor problem a common thing for nearly everyone? Perhaps the stock rotor is of poor quality. Has anyone had this problem and resolved it with a good after market rotor? I wonder if this problem or at least the poor braking problem is fixed in the 2002. The press release does say, "improved brake feel".

 

Well, the rotor's aren't really made by Honda, they are manufactured by an aftermarket company, not sure who though..If the cross-drilled or slotted rotor's tim sells reduces it, I would rather just buy those and put them in.
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Hey Shoofin'TL, I had a problem w/ the seat warmer switch on the low setting until I flipped it back & forth from High 2 Low. It seems it was in the switch, b/c now it works!? Have u had the switches ck'd?... & on the rotors, I've noticed that the TL doesn't have alot of protection for the inside part of the rotor for water splashes. I've had cars in the past that didn't have good water splash guards for the rotor. When the car was driven long or hard & the rotors are HOT, if u drive through water, snow, etc. it can TEMPER the metal, and cause lots of problems. Could this have happened 2 u a couple of times? Just a thought!


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Everything u said about the brakes, I am very well aware of... As for the switch, I tried flicking it from high to low and nothing happened...it only is working in High..
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Sorry 2 hear the problems then, I can't help ya man!

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I have the same problems with my seat heater (works on high, not on low) and with the rotors. I don't know what the deal is with that. I had the seat heater checked at the Acura dealership and they said it had a bad heating element...cost for repair ~$350.00. I said' "No thanks". I really don't need it that bad down here in Mississippi. As for the rotors, I plan on riding them out until I can't stand it anymore, then get a set of cross-drilled or slotted and some pads from Tim. My car is out of warranty (63,000 miles), so I can't b!tch about it!

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Well, I'm still very healthy at 17,000 miles for my 4 year 50,000 mile warranty, so I expect to have the dealer fix these things..
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15K here...and no problems at all...everything is perfect(sort of speak)

 

I'll have to say that it might be your driving style too. Warping a rotor in 6000 miles is kind of impossible, unless you didn't break them in or just ride your brakes all day long. Brakes are considered wear and tear item. You were lucky that your dealer replaced it for you the first time, I wouldn't think they will do it again. Are you sure they gave you new rotors at 11K miles and not just resurfaced your old warped rotors?

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he resurfaced mine at about 14k. He said he would only do it once, but now it was only a little better when he gave it back to me, and now its just as bad so I want new rotors and it should be covered under warranty...only have 19k now so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

The thinner the rotor is (after resurfacing), the less effective it is to dissipate heat. As far as getting a new one covered under warranty, it really depends on your dealership. Like I said before, brake rotor is a wear & tear item, just like your shocks, it is not covered under warranty unless you proof to them it was a defect.

 

One important thing here.High performance pads have a more aggressive compound that will wear rotors at a faster pace regardless of the manufacturer says.Acura specifies that rotors be machined on the car not off the car at times failure to do this can cause the rotors to warp again.If the dealer just replaced the rotor there is a bulletin specifically addressing the fact that Acura wants the rotors machined to match the runout on the hub and bearing.In other words some vehicles have slight amounts of runout in the hub and bearing assembly,it is within tolerance but does require that the rotor even if brand new be machined on the car so it will work properly.Make sure your dealer is aware of these service bulletins (they should be).But remember Acura may tell you your problem is related to your brake pads which is possible as well.jens