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yesterday i saw the new 04 nissan maxima commercial and they said it has 265hp. i dunno if its just me or what but i think the maxima and the tl are in a little competition, because the 2000 tl had 225hp so i guess they max made the 02 hp a little higher to 255hp and to compete. i guess acura made the TLS to increase the hp in their tl to get more buyers. i dunno if its just me what guys. give me some input, i've been noticing this for awhile
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Actually the TL/S came out with 260 HP before the the 02 Maxima came out with 255. initially The 02 Maxima was suppose to have 260 HP but the production Maxima's hp was dropped to 255 due to stiffer emission regulations.
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I was told by a dealer the the reason the max went up to 255hp was because the altima had 250! He made it sound like the altima being that strong surprised the maxima designers. By the way what's up with two sedans in two different classes being so close in hp?
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that dealer is a friggin idiot.... the altima went up by 5HP , so its at 245 now, not 250
and the reason why the last max was at 255 was because the altima got 240hp... though there was debate on the maxima forums that the maxima didnt really have 255 (that or the altima had more power than they stated it had). it was so that the sales of the max didnt get killed too bad
they are setting up the maxima to die in that price range. one dealer quoted a 04maxima loaded on lease for 500/month and using the same lease options, the 03 G35 laoded was for 430/month. hmmm, tough choice wudnt you say?
and the reason why the last max was at 255 was because the altima got 240hp... though there was debate on the maxima forums that the maxima didnt really have 255 (that or the altima had more power than they stated it had). it was so that the sales of the max didnt get killed too bad
they are setting up the maxima to die in that price range. one dealer quoted a 04maxima loaded on lease for 500/month and using the same lease options, the 03 G35 laoded was for 430/month. hmmm, tough choice wudnt you say?
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The Maxima may not be the best looking car, but it offers some great options like heated rear bucket seats, heated steering wheel, 18" wheels, power collapsable side-view mirrors, power tilt and tekescoping steering wheel and bi-xenon lights. I hope the new TL has these options as well, or at least some of them
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I was told by a Nissan dealer that the Altima, Murano, and Maxima (as well as some of the Infiniti's) all have the same engine. They're just tuned differently which accounts for the different HP's.
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
I test drove both a 2003 Altima and 2004 Maxima. The Maxima is roomier, more features, and I found it more powerful and responsive to drive (too bad it looks funny).
I question the HP ratings of some of the Nissans. I was reading some online review of the 2003 Sentra V-Spec. I think it's advertised as 174 HP, but the reviewers complained that their test models were only showing HP in the mid-140's. I suppose this may be true of most cars though.
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
I test drove both a 2003 Altima and 2004 Maxima. The Maxima is roomier, more features, and I found it more powerful and responsive to drive (too bad it looks funny).
I question the HP ratings of some of the Nissans. I was reading some online review of the 2003 Sentra V-Spec. I think it's advertised as 174 HP, but the reviewers complained that their test models were only showing HP in the mid-140's. I suppose this may be true of most cars though.
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CarDumb, the Nissan 3.5 liter engine (VQ35?) is their bread and butter engine. Its one of the best engines out there according to many and can be found in almost everyone of their lineups:
altima 3.5
Maxima
G35
Z
Murano
FX35
I35
altima 3.5
Maxima
G35
Z
Murano
FX35
I35
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Originally posted by CarDumb
I was told by a Nissan dealer that the Altima, Murano, and Maxima (as well as some of the Infiniti's) all have the same engine. They're just tuned differently which accounts for the different HP's.
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
I test drove both a 2003 Altima and 2004 Maxima. The Maxima is roomier, more features, and I found it more powerful and responsive to drive (too bad it looks funny).
I question the HP ratings of some of the Nissans. I was reading some online review of the 2003 Sentra V-Spec. I think it's advertised as 174 HP, but the reviewers complained that their test models were only showing HP in the mid-140's. I suppose this may be true of most cars though.
I was told by a Nissan dealer that the Altima, Murano, and Maxima (as well as some of the Infiniti's) all have the same engine. They're just tuned differently which accounts for the different HP's.
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
I test drove both a 2003 Altima and 2004 Maxima. The Maxima is roomier, more features, and I found it more powerful and responsive to drive (too bad it looks funny).
I question the HP ratings of some of the Nissans. I was reading some online review of the 2003 Sentra V-Spec. I think it's advertised as 174 HP, but the reviewers complained that their test models were only showing HP in the mid-140's. I suppose this may be true of most cars though.
I know there was a lawsuit at one point from Maxima owners who felt their cars were overrated since their dynos showed the same amount of horsepower at the wheel as the Altimas.. Don't know what ever came of that though.
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Originally posted by CarDumb
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
An article in the Toronto Star put the 2004 Maxima and 2004 Grand Prix GTP head to head. They said the GTP beat the Maxima in a lot of the tests (except braking), but was less refined. They were talking about 6.4 sec 0-60 times for the cars.
Sounds like GM forced Mr. Jim Kenzie to retest the '04 GTP after he slammed it back in February... they know his crappy review would have hurt sales. I say read between the lines, the first review was the real one, the second was GM using their brawn to get a better review of the car...
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1/4 on the '03 CL-S stick 'ccording to CL-S 6-spd owners is realistically 14.2 - 14.6 -- haven't seen better than 14.2
The Maxima may not be the best looking car, but it offers some great options like ...
*heated rear bucket seats - waste...
*heated steering wheel - My car is garaged 99% of the time.
*18" wheels - Ok, 18's would be a sweet option!
*power collapsable side-view mirrors - a waste
*power tilt - ha, another motor to fail, waste
*telescoping steering wheel - maybe some would like it...
*and bi-xenon lights - yes, bring it on
Don't forget:
*DVD based entertainment system - great for the kids
*Upgraded audio system - anything is better than Blows stereo
*Aluminum accents, not that bowling ball or wood grained plastic crap
*Sport seat with colored leather insert option - like the Type S A-Spec
*Wider availability of the specialty models like the A-Spec, other tuner options from the dealership like Ford did with Saleen/Steeda.
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Originally posted by ferizzo
CarDumb, the Nissan 3.5 liter engine (VQ35?) is their bread and butter engine. Its one of the best engines out there according to many and can be found in almost everyone of their lineups:
altima 3.5
Maxima
G35
Z
Murano
FX35
I35
CarDumb, the Nissan 3.5 liter engine (VQ35?) is their bread and butter engine. Its one of the best engines out there according to many and can be found in almost everyone of their lineups:
altima 3.5
Maxima
G35
Z
Murano
FX35
I35
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All I know is I dusted a new Max on the Belt pkwy last nite coming home from Brooklyn...... After we got caught up in traffic so I HAD to roll my window down (20% tint at 11:30pm) So he and his GF, who was cute BTW, could see me laughing at him.... LOL.... She just kept lookin at me , then over at him then back at me ...... WHAT A JOKE 5hp isnt ish... ACURA ACURA ACURA fawk nissan
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All I know is I dusted a new Max on the Belt pkwy last nite coming home from Brooklyn...... After we got caught up in traffic so I HAD to roll my window down (20% tint at 11:30pm) So he and his GF, who was cute BTW, could see me laughing at him.... LOL.... She just kept lookin at me , then over at him then back at me ...... WHAT A JOKE 5hp isnt ish... ACURA ACURA ACURA fawk nissan
All I know is I dusted a new Max on the Belt pkwy last nite coming home from Brooklyn...... After we got caught up in traffic so I HAD to roll my window down (20% tint at 11:30pm) So he and his GF, who was cute BTW, could see me laughing at him.... LOL.... She just kept lookin at me , then over at him then back at me ...... WHAT A JOKE 5hp isnt ish... ACURA ACURA ACURA fawk nissan
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From what I heard, the manual 04 Maxima does 0-60 in about 6.3 to 6.4 seconds. This is a huge disappointment considering what the older manuals used to do. Wonder what the new Maxima weighs.
From what I heard, the manual 04 Maxima does 0-60 in about 6.3 to 6.4 seconds. This is a huge disappointment considering what the older manuals used to do. Wonder what the new Maxima weighs.
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