K&N air filters

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-14-2004, 10:20 PM
  #1  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
andyc039's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 38
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
K&N air filters

I have heard a lot of talk about these on the forums..Are they worth getting? .. What advantages can u expect from it?
Old 05-14-2004, 10:59 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
`ill*tl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Northwest/burbs, IL
Age: 40
Posts: 4,698
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
You only get better gas mileage.
Old 05-15-2004, 05:00 AM
  #3  
Pro
 
dee diddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancity 604
Posts: 712
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if you plan on keeping your car for a while, it's worth it from a cost standpoint. cheaper to go with a k&n vs continually changing air filters in the long run cuz they're guaranteed for a million miles (aka your ownership of the car).
Old 05-15-2004, 06:03 AM
  #4  
Banned
 
MADCAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,328
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And better acceleration. :enforcer:


Originally Posted by `ill*tl
You only get better gas mileage.
Old 05-15-2004, 04:51 PM
  #5  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
andyc039's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 38
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can i pick them up at like a Kragen, or do i need to go somewhere special?
Old 05-15-2004, 10:27 PM
  #6  
Senior Moderator
 
fsttyms1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Appleton WI
Age: 49
Posts: 81,383
Received 3,063 Likes on 2,119 Posts
most auto parts stores carry k&n, and if they dont have it in stock they can order it for you
Old 05-16-2004, 03:31 AM
  #7  
Racer
 
Seotaji's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 368
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It doesn't filter as well which lets in more dirt, thus contaminating your oil at a faster rate (which might cause more wear) and cleaning/reoiling the filter is a chore.

I'd rather replace a fiberous filter which filters better than one that filters less and is harder to clean.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

they did a commendable job testing air filters.

The differential pressure test was performed using a water manometer where one psi of pressure is equivalent to 27.7" of water. The differential pressure was measured between atmospheric and the pressure drop after the air filter in the stock airbox. The max pressure drop in this test was seen at only 7.0 inches of water or 0.25 psi. The factory airbox and piping with no filter yielded a pressure drop of 5.0 inches of water or 0.18 psi. That means that the worst filter in this test only caused a pressure drop of 0.07 psi. In my opinion, this means that if you are picking an air filter based on performance, you probably aren't doing your car any favors. For the record, the K&N was the best flowing filter. Of the 3 types of media tested, the cotton gauze type filters flow best. There are other brands besides K&N for sale, of which most are probably made by K&N for resellers. Foam air filters flowed marginally better than paper.
In the end, paper or fiberous filters do remove more particles from the air before they enter your engine. The cotton gauze filters indeed offer better airflow. You have to decide for yourself whether you value ever last ounce of power or filtration. I cannot, nor will I make this decision for you. I do know that on a relatively stock car with a properly sized air filter, you indeed have very little if any performance to gain by swapping filtration material.
Old 05-16-2004, 05:18 AM
  #8  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
andyc039's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 38
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
bump
Old 05-16-2004, 10:59 AM
  #9  
Racer
 
spl1011's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Everett, WA
Age: 44
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I got a K&N drop in filter because all the stores in town wanted something like 30 bucks for a paper filter (puralator or Fram) and the K&N I got for 50 something. No place (other than the Acura Dealer) had any in stock so it had to be ordered. For ease of use and long term $$ I went with the K&N.

Filtration wise, I think it is a lot better than any of the two other brands I mentioned...
Old 05-16-2004, 10:47 PM
  #10  
Racer
 
JRA2000TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Age: 42
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I just put one in my car. For some reason, I can't really tell much of a difference in horsepower and definitely no change in gas mileage. The car only has 39k on it, and I just ran some Chevron Techron fuel injection cleaner in it as well. I still get between 18 and 19 around town, 20 if i baby it. Haven't taken an all freeway trip yet.
Old 05-17-2004, 09:07 AM
  #11  
Senior Moderator
 
fsttyms1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Appleton WI
Age: 49
Posts: 81,383
Received 3,063 Likes on 2,119 Posts
Originally Posted by JRA2000TL
I just put one in my car. For some reason, I can't really tell much of a difference in horsepower and definitely no change in gas mileage. The car only has 39k on it, and I just ran some Chevron Techron fuel injection cleaner in it as well. I still get between 18 and 19 around town, 20 if i baby it. Haven't taken an all freeway trip yet.
you wont be able to have the seat of your pants dyno tell the hp diff! remove your resonator with the k&n.
Old 05-17-2004, 07:25 PM
  #12  
Racer
 
JRA2000TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Age: 42
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have a dumb question...what does the resonator do and where is it located? Does it have something to do with quieting the wind noise or anything?
Old 05-17-2004, 08:16 PM
  #13  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
andyc039's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 38
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
there are multiple resonators. The main resonator in the tl is a big chunky ass plastic thing in under your air filter close to the left wheel well It restricts air flow to your engine and...taking it off will make ur car sound deeper
Old 07-23-2004, 07:55 PM
  #14  
Advanced
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 83
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have an 03 TL-S and just got done installing a K&N Drop In filter. It was VERY hard to put the cover back on. There are two clips that were nearly impossible to latch, one under the airflow tube and the other against the battery. I couldn't get the clip under the airflow tube to latch, but everything seems nice and tight.

Does anyone think I did it wrong or have a better way to do this?

Thanks.
Old 07-23-2004, 11:04 PM
  #15  
Racer
 
spl1011's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Everett, WA
Age: 44
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nope, its a pain the first time it goes in.
The first time I did it I broke a clip and traded with a fellow on this board for his airbox (he installed a CAE) for my sunroof visor.
But after that it is a bit easier to install. The rubber kinda "molds" to the seal of the airbox.
Its all good.
Old 07-23-2004, 11:57 PM
  #16  
Racer
 
GoldTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Louisiana
Age: 40
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
do the air filters fit EXACTLY? I know that if they are off a little bit, then that is dirt and shit getting in.
Old 07-26-2004, 08:17 AM
  #17  
TLStar
 
Faizalstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Queenz, NY
Age: 52
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
once the main resonator is removed, is it a pain in the ass to put it back in? or is it a one time thing with no going back?
Old 07-26-2004, 09:04 AM
  #18  
Instructor
 
Davidlamny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Does any want a used K&N Airfilter?? Because I'm going for CAI, so it has to go.
I bought the filter less than a month and less than 200 miles on it, pretty new and clean. PM me if you're interested.
Old 07-26-2004, 09:07 AM
  #19  
Just agree and go away...
 
LargeOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island, NY moved to Albany NY
Age: 47
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You can put the air box back in if you want but it really doesn't do anything except queit the engine noise a little... I have had mine off for about 10K miles now and I am not regretting 1 mile of driving... K&N plus the air box removal is the way to go if you don't want to buy a CAI...

Its sweet!!!
Old 07-26-2004, 09:18 AM
  #20  
TLStar
 
Faizalstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Queenz, NY
Age: 52
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
cool, thanx!
Old 07-26-2004, 08:41 PM
  #21  
Dragging knees in
iTrader: (2)
 
Pure Adrenaline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle Area
Age: 42
Posts: 12,434
Received 32 Likes on 21 Posts
My God, run a search. This issue has been discussed many times in the past and chances are that you will find your answers there without wasting bandwidth.
Old 07-26-2004, 08:53 PM
  #22  
UB6IB9
 
1st timer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: montreal
Age: 49
Posts: 1,400
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you wont be able to have the seat of your pants dyno tell the hp diff! remove your resonator with the k&n.
why remove the resonator?
Old 07-26-2004, 08:57 PM
  #23  
Sig Rho's Finest
 
NYZGREATST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Yoke City
Age: 40
Posts: 8,471
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1st timer
why remove the resonator?
its lets the air flow to the engine better and gives the car a deeper sound. at first i didnt notice the sound (dunno how i missed it) but once i listened for it, the car sounds reallll niceeee. cant wait to put a CAI in and let it roar
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tsx_boy
1G TSX Performance Parts & Modifications
4
12-13-2019 08:33 PM
rcs86
Car Parts for Sale
3
08-02-2016 06:52 PM
LeVeL
3G TL (2004-2008)
38
10-18-2015 04:19 PM
steve
2G TL (1999-2003)
5
09-30-2015 09:23 PM
hashbrown
4G TL (2009-2014)
2
09-29-2015 12:13 PM



Quick Reply: K&N air filters



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:04 PM.