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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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^^^ Again it's just the turbo.

I rather have displacement anyways.

BTW, torque wins races.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by InspireTL

BTW, torque wins races.
Thats my whole argument for the K23, regardless of it's practicality
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Thats my whole argument for the K23, regardless of it's practicality
I'm not hating on the K23 engine. I have built a K-series civic myself.

The K23 is in an AWD car, How would it do in a FWD? I doubt the K23 would even put that to the wheels.

I don't think it'll even pull as hard as a Jseries would, regardless what's on paper.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by InspireTL

BTW, torque wins races.
Tell that to the viper which looses races to the less torque ZO6
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Thats my whole argument for the K23, regardless of it's practicality
For arguments sake i doubt the kseries would put that much to the wheels, nor do i see it pulling the car along as well as the J series. Another problem would be getting a trans to bolt up to it.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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I think it could put the power to the wheels. The 0-60 time of the RDX is real close to that of the 2nd gen Type-S, but this is also in a car that weighs almost 500 pounds more than the TL. Agreed about the transmission and drive-train issue. Anyone have too much money and want to fabricate a solution to putting the K23 in a front wheel drive car? I wouldn't mind seeing the first SH-AWD TL being a 2nd Gen TL
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Tell that to the viper which looses races to the less torque ZO6
Well,

LSx>Whatever 8.x-liter V10 the viper has..

Not a Viper fan.

Isn't the vette lighter than the Viper anyways?
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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You guys want torque, Build a 3.5 and FI it. It would be cheaper to do that than to try to convert a K series into the car. Not to mention it would produce A LOT more HP and Torque to the wheels.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by InspireTL
Well,

LSx>Whatever 8.x-liter V10 the viper has..

Not a Viper fan.

Isn't the vette lighter than the Viper anyways?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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somebody should put an NSX motor in an integra. it is like the H22 motor that somebody made a Mid engine RWD out of the integra. that was awsome.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by corpsdawg
I think it could put the power to the wheels. The 0-60 time of the RDX is real close to that of the 2nd gen Type-S, but this is also in a car that weighs almost 500 pounds more than the TL. Agreed about the transmission and drive-train issue. Anyone have too much money and want to fabricate a solution to putting the K23 in a front wheel drive car? I wouldn't mind seeing the first SH-AWD TL being a 2nd Gen TL
Very highly doubt it, especially with the AWD. It would probably be closer or less than the TL-P does. Also its too late. The 4th gen has SH-AWD.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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somebody should put an NSX motor in an integra. it is like the H22 motor that somebody made a Mid engine RWD out of the integra. that was awsome.
Yea and that car turned to shit after the first few runs.

It was cool for the first few times it was up.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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This has been briefly discussed on the 3rd gen forum, but is it possible to stroke the 3.2 to a 3.7? If its not possible now, does anyone speculate that it would be more likely in the future with a 3.7 going into a version of the 4th gen?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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This has been briefly discussed on the 3rd gen forum, but is it possible to stroke the 3.2 to a 3.7? If its not possible now, does anyone speculate that it would be more likely in the future with a 3.7 going into a version of the 4th gen?
It is possible. A good friend of mine is working on it.

He loves to guinea pig these kinda things.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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The NSX engine isn't really all that special byt itself. The NSX as a whole on the other hand is an incredible car.

The major complaint against the NSX was it's lack of power but it made up for it with incredible balance and handling. I think it would make more sense to swap a TL-S 3.5 into a NSX than a NSX 3.2 into a TL.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
The NSX engine isn't really all that special byt itself. The NSX as a whole on the other hand is an incredible car.

The major complaint against the NSX was it's lack of power but it made up for it with incredible balance and handling. I think it would make more sense to swap a TL-S 3.5 into a NSX than a NSX 3.2 into a TL.
Dont forget the NSX's reliability factor. Prior to it's birth most European supercars were notorious for having mechanical issues. Also, for the time of its birth (this was with the 3.0L) the NSX had a very good power-to-weight ratio
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by InspireTL
It is possible. A good friend of mine is working on it.

He loves to guinea pig these kinda things.
I would really like to see that and proof of what he did to achieve 3.7 out of our motor!!!! Until that i dont believe it.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I would really like to see that and proof of what he did to achieve 3.7 out of our motor!!!! Until that i dont believe it.
Sorry for not being specific. It is not for our motors.

It is for the 2nd gen J-series which involve the 04-06 tls, 03-07 accords.

The J37 crank will fit into those blocks making it a J36 instead of an j37.

None of this is relevant to what we are talking about here.

Again, sorry.

But now since it's been mentioned, an old friend of ours is going to guinea pig this idea.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by InspireTL
Well,

LSx>Whatever 8.x-liter V10 the viper has..

Not a Viper fan.

Isn't the vette lighter than the Viper anyways?
The C6 Z06 is an LS7.

And yes, its lighter.

Girlfriend's dad has one pretty heavily modded. Its scary lol. We beat the shit out of a street bike the other night.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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acutally the NSX motor is very well built. Lovefab has taken advantage of it and there are crazy amounts of power coming from NSX's.

A brand new NSX motor costs about 35K, with all parts, no that is not a typo, 35K
A 1991 NSX with high miles should be around 19K, and a slavaged NSX with a good motor is less.

Buy a slavaged NSX, get the motor redone by S.0.S (science of speed dot com) for 15K to brand new specs and 3.8 bore.

Then drop it into the TL bay (it will fit), figure out the transmssion systems and other systems, then send it into lovefab for their kit.

At the end of the day, you will have a 700+ WHP FWD car.... for around 40K....
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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whoops my mistake, I meant 920+ WHP!
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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this engine couldnt be all motor at 920whp. If it is it's not running on pump gas. Whats the compression on this engine? Whats the unbored cylinder size of the nsx engine?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by corpsdawg
this engine couldnt be all motor at 920whp. If it is it's not running on pump gas. Whats the compression on this engine? Whats the unbored cylinder size of the nsx engine?
He didnt say it was. Look at the dyno sheet. It says the PSI and what gear.

You mean stock or the modified?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by corpsdawg
I'm going to correct your units real quick. Torque is not power, HP is.
There is nothing to correct. My statement was correct.

Horsepower is a function of torque and RPM.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
He didnt say it was. Look at the dyno sheet. It says the PSI and what gear.

You mean stock or the modified?
The stock engine bore
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by corpsdawg
The stock engine bore
2002
Engine Displacement 3179 cc (194 cu in)
Bore 93 mm (3.66 in)
Stroke 78 mm (3.07 in)
Bore / Stroke Ratio 1.19
10.2:1 compression

1995
Engine Displacement 2977 cc (181.67 cu in)
Bore 90 mm (3.54 in)
Stroke 78 mm (3.07 in)
Bore / Stroke Ratio 1.15
10.2:1 Compression
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