i just found out the JDM version of the TL (honda inspire/sabre) they do not have D4 on their shift gate, however it's still a 5spd auto and 260hp

line to proof
http://www.honda.co.jp/SABER/moreinfo/trans.html

 

D4 is there

D3 is not.


EDIT:



Looks like the pic itself is incorrect but i cant tell from the pic of the shiftgate




This was a problem with the 5 speed auto Honda Odyssey's here. Many people wanted a D4 position for the shifter.

 

here explains

D3 is here
D4 is not

http://www.honda.co.jp/SABER/powerfuldriving/

 

the pic is D3, not D4, if you look up closely

 

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it matter?

 

It doesn't really matter. D5 and D4 are so close in ratios, they figured it wouldn't make a difference. But I'm sure you could still hold 4th if you wanted.

Dodge does this, too. They don't have 1 or 2 -- just an L then 3 and 4.

 

 

eh?

Was there a debate on this earlier that I missed?

...yay 1k posts!

 

just found out sth that is interesting from the JDM spec and US spec, nth special to debate on

 

yeah right i am trying to be the smart ass~

LOL

 

I was kinda hoping that maybe the tranny used in the J-Spec has perhaps a different gear ratio setting or something. Perhaps those tranny aren't being affected by the weak 3rd gear clutch pack?