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Old 08-13-2001 | 05:28 PM
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I found an improvement for the shock sensor install if anyone is interested:
First of all, "Thank You" to those of you who posted pictures and instructions on the shock sensor install. I would have had no idea where to start if it wasn't for you. The thing I didn't like about the shock sensor was that with the sensitivity set even remotely sensitive you could not close the trunk without setting the alarm off. I was able to pop the trunk open with the remote with no problem, but I couldn't close it(even lightly), or it would set the alarm off.

Here's my solution:

I searched and worked with my multimeter for about an hour, knowing that I needed to somehow tie into the trunk light, so that the shock sensor would know when the trunk was open. I found a wire that goes to the trunk light and switch(in the latch) that has 12 volts on it when the trunk is closed(light is off), and has 0 volts on it when the trunk is open (light is on). I am now using that wire as the power wire for the shock sensor. So, as soon as I pop the trunk with the remote, the shock sensor is deactivated, and as soon as the trunk is closed the shock sensor is reactivated.

It works perfectly, and now I can have the shock sensor set very sensitive, without having the alarm go off whem I'm messing around in the trunk.

Okay here's the location of the wire:

You will find one big mass of wires coming from the back of the car(driver's side), up by the hood release. This mass of wires splits into two groups... one group is plugged into a connector on the fuse panel itself. The second group is plugged into a connector straight back towards the firewall(engine). It's not all the way back to the firewall... just that direction. This second group is the one you are interested in. Unplug the connector and pull it out to where you can get a good look at all of the wires. The wire you want to use is the wire in the fifth slot down, on the right hand side of the connector. The wire is orange.

Please post with comments, suggestions, thoughts, etc. Thanks!
Old 08-13-2001 | 06:02 PM
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The sensor should detect this and it's unlikely but...

What if someone manages to break into your trunk without setting off the alarm?

Then, no more shock sensor right?

But that is great info, thanks!
Old 08-13-2001 | 08:16 PM
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I don't know what the hell you do in your trunk that makes the alarm go off.

I was just playing with mine alarm after reading your post and short of actually jumping into the trunk the alarm would not go off. I also have my shock sensor set all the way up. It's so sensitive in the front that I can barely fold my side mirrors up gently without it going off... nor can I lift my winshield wiper off and not PLACE it gently down without it going off.

My alarm does NOT go off when slamming the trunk closed and trust me I was SLAMMING it shut! I'm not concerned enough to try to change anything though. I know it will go off if the car gets hit or someone tries to yank my headlights and that's why I did it in the first place. I don't keep anything in my trunk anyway....

EXCEPT MY NAV UNIT AND CD CHANGER!!!
Old 08-13-2001 | 09:07 PM
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So, as soon as I pop the trunk with the remote, the shock sensor is deactivated, and as soon as the trunk is closed the shock sensor is reactivated.
The shock sensor is NOT deactivated when the trunk is opened by remote. (at least on mine).
Old 08-13-2001 | 09:15 PM
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Because the single stange is so sensitive, that's why I went w/ the dual stage shock sensor. It ignores light impacts and only goes off when both stages are triggered. meaning one hard hit. i've set mine to most sensitive and it doesn't really false alot either. only goes off when i hit my window kinda hard.

Im also thinking of adding motion or proximity inside the car so when someone jacks the car up or when i leave my window down I'm still protected.
Old 08-14-2001 | 09:06 AM
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Hey Joe,

Are the sensors in yet?
Old 08-14-2001 | 09:18 AM
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I got so fed up w/ those fookers not sending it to me and lying that its in UPS i canceled my order after recieveing the first batch(4)

so Im gonna let you all order it your self.
more info here

http://www.acura-cl.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=009898
Old 08-14-2001 | 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Acura3200


The shock sensor is NOT deactivated when the trunk is opened by remote. (at least on mine).
he changed the power supply to the one from the trunk light. so when the power is sent to the trunk light when the trunk is opened, there is no electricity sent to the shock sensor. that's why it's deactivated.
Old 04-25-2002 | 12:43 AM
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Re: Improvement for shock sensor install

Originally posted by ajram
I found an improvement for the shock sensor install if anyone is interested:
First of all, "Thank You" to those of you who posted pictures and instructions on the shock sensor install. I would have had no idea where to start if it wasn't for you. The thing I didn't like about the shock sensor was that with the sensitivity set even remotely sensitive you could not close the trunk without setting the alarm off. I was able to pop the trunk open with the remote with no problem, but I couldn't close it(even lightly), or it would set the alarm off.

Here's my solution:

I searched and worked with my multimeter for about an hour, knowing that I needed to somehow tie into the trunk light, so that the shock sensor would know when the trunk was open. I found a wire that goes to the trunk light and switch(in the latch) that has 12 volts on it when the trunk is closed(light is off), and has 0 volts on it when the trunk is open (light is on). I am now using that wire as the power wire for the shock sensor. So, as soon as I pop the trunk with the remote, the shock sensor is deactivated, and as soon as the trunk is closed the shock sensor is reactivated.

It works perfectly, and now I can have the shock sensor set very sensitive, without having the alarm go off whem I'm messing around in the trunk.

Okay here's the location of the wire:

You will find one big mass of wires coming from the back of the car(driver's side), up by the hood release. This mass of wires splits into two groups... one group is plugged into a connector on the fuse panel itself. The second group is plugged into a connector straight back towards the firewall(engine). It's not all the way back to the firewall... just that direction. This second group is the one you are interested in. Unplug the connector and pull it out to where you can get a good look at all of the wires. The wire you want to use is the wire in the fifth slot down, on the right hand side of the connector. The wire is orange.

Please post with comments, suggestions, thoughts, etc. Thanks!
Hey I tried this and it apparently DIDN'T work. I hooked up the signal wire to the yellow/silver wire (hood sensor), ground to car's chasis and red (power) the the orange wire (trunk signal) as stated above. I'm sure wiring is right since everything works as advertised. However, when I popped the trunk, the alarm STILL went off. This is because the sensor pick up the vibration from the trunk BEFORE the power was disconnected (via the orange wire). Once the trunk is open, power to the shock sensor will be disabled..but too late..the alarm went off already. I had to put the sensitivity way down to solve the initial openning (vibration) of the trunk.
How did you do yours????
Old 04-25-2002 | 02:11 AM
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I don't know what I did differently. I have the sensitivity turned all the way up on mine, and it is still working... wired this way. My trunk doesn't ever set it off.
Old 04-25-2002 | 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by ajram
I don't know what I did differently. I have the sensitivity turned all the way up on mine, and it is still working... wired this way. My trunk doesn't ever set it off.
hey ajram, perhaps you used a different brand of sensor?? that's all I can think of since we both wired the same way. I attached my sensor to the bundle of wires under the dash...any input? BTW, I bought my sensor from autotoys.com (dual stage shock sensor for $10.95....if that helps).
Old 04-25-2002 | 03:58 AM
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My guess is that you guys have it mounted differently (location wise) I'd rather have it tied to a bunch of wires or mounted on the steering column then on the solid chasis where the trunk vibrations might not be picked up so well. I'm having my sensors delivered to me in a couple of days...so maybe I'll participate in these threads more in the future.
Old 04-25-2002 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Acura3200
My alarm does NOT go off when slamming the trunk closed and trust me I was SLAMMING it shut! I'm not concerned enough to try to change anything though. I know it will go off if the car gets hit or someone tries to yank my headlights and that's why I did it in the first place. I don't keep anything in my trunk anyway....
Hmmm...I guess that would mean someone would be able to at least break the windows without setting off the shock sensor in order to get into your car. If your alarm doesn't go off even when you were "slamming the trunk closed" I would imagine breaking a window wouldn't do so either...

Tony
Old 04-25-2002 | 01:11 PM
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Ok, does anyone has any pics of the installed sensor? If I want to wire the sensor (I do not open my trunk when alarm is set on), which wires I have to use?
Old 04-27-2002 | 10:03 PM
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Hey randomwalk101! Help check your sensor model

Originally posted by randomwalk101


hey ajram, perhaps you used a different brand of sensor?? that's all I can think of since we both wired the same way. I attached my sensor to the bundle of wires under the dash...any input? BTW, I bought my sensor from autotoys.com (dual stage shock sensor for $10.95....if that helps).
hi randomwalk101,

i got my shock sensor from autotoys.com too but mine isnt sensitive at all.

Can you check if we have the same shock sensor? Mine is a Magnadyne model # ALA95 (Dual Zone Shock Sensor with 4-Pin Plug).

Thanks in advance.
Will
Old 04-28-2002 | 12:56 AM
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Re: Hey randomwalk101! Help check your sensor model

Originally posted by willang


hi randomwalk101,

i got my shock sensor from autotoys.com too but mine isnt sensitive at all.

Can you check if we have the same shock sensor? Mine is a Magnadyne model # ALA95 (Dual Zone Shock Sensor with 4-Pin Plug).

Thanks in advance.
Will
Interesting..I bought mine at autotoys.com... Model SS44C dual zone shock & current sensor...it's sensitive as hell. I had to set it just barely pass the middle mark otherwise it would go off at the slightest thing. I paid $10.95 for it. It's interesting that you got a different model from the same place. Mine is also a 4 pins plug with another wire for the current sensor (not used in our application).
Old 04-28-2002 | 10:40 AM
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Re: Re: Hey randomwalk101! Help check your sensor model

Originally posted by randomwalk101


Interesting..I bought mine at autotoys.com... Model SS44C dual zone shock & current sensor...it's sensitive as hell. I had to set it just barely pass the middle mark otherwise it would go off at the slightest thing. I paid $10.95 for it. It's interesting that you got a different model from the same place. Mine is also a 4 pins plug with another wire for the current sensor (not used in our application).
yeah, sucks for me though since i can barely trigger the alarm with this POS shock sensor. Thinking about getting another one but definitely not from autotoys.com. They told me that they change their inventory very often so the listed shock sensor for $10.95 would change model from time to time depending on their supplier(s) and the picture shown is not a reliable indicator of the equipment that would be shipped to you.

Thanks for the info.
Old 04-28-2002 | 11:08 AM
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i have the dual stage sensor and it seems as though i have to bang on the car with a sledge hammer for the alarm to go off... where can i get a "top of the line" single stage shock sensor. I also have air horns hooked up to my car. For some reason the "stop" fuse (20a) keeps blowing out.. BTW the stop fuse controls the horn, the rear tail light when u press the brake. If this fuse is blown your vehicle will not come out of park. The D5 position will flash for 3 seconds when u start the car. If u cant get a fuse right away best thing to do is press the shift release button with yah foot on the brake, put the car in neutral and start the car then put it in drive.. btw this happen to me yasterday
Old 04-28-2002 | 11:10 AM
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o and i need a better shock sensor fast since i live in NYC with these darn headlight stealing bandits
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