Honda/Acura to offer 100k Warranty for CL/TL trannys
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Well, it's been posted on acl.com as well as the TL section of the board... so I figured I'd put it on here too. My guess is that he story from the LA Times probably helped this along... for that you can all thank EricL from acl.com!!
Extended warranty information from Autoweek... click here!!
Extended warranty information from USA Today... click here!!
Extended warranty information from Honda themselves... click here!!
Extended warranty information from Autoweek... click here!!
Extended warranty information from USA Today... click here!!
Extended warranty information from Honda themselves... click here!!
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Originally posted by eCo
Article doesn't name TL-S specifically (just TL), but surely they're included. This is a very good move, and really one they needed to make.
eCo
Article doesn't name TL-S specifically (just TL), but surely they're included. This is a very good move, and really one they needed to make.
eCo
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#4
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Thank God,
This deals with my issue of getting an extended warranty just to cover the tranny.
Thanks to all who have been so vocal and active in this issue.
BTW - Out of curiosity, I still would eventually like to know what the real underlying problem was.
RUF
This deals with my issue of getting an extended warranty just to cover the tranny.
Thanks to all who have been so vocal and active in this issue.
BTW - Out of curiosity, I still would eventually like to know what the real underlying problem was.
RUF
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only covers transmission
nevermind. I just read this part:
Honda says the extended warranty, which covers the transmission only, affects about 1 million vehicles. It says 1.6% of those vehicles have had to have transmissions replaced.
Honda says the extended warranty, which covers the transmission only, affects about 1 million vehicles. It says 1.6% of those vehicles have had to have transmissions replaced.
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Originally posted by eggbert
So I guess it's coverage for everything?
Not just powertrain?
Extended everything (well, maybe not for those who already have extendeds - refund?) would be great.
I've always had AC troubles with hondas/acuras.
So I guess it's coverage for everything?
Not just powertrain?
Extended everything (well, maybe not for those who already have extendeds - refund?) would be great.
I've always had AC troubles with hondas/acuras.
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From the Autoweek article:
"The extended warranty will cover affected transmissions for seven years or 100,000 miles. "
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Originally posted by Gibrango
No, transmissions only go out on people that use sport-shift and red-line their engines all the time.
No, transmissions only go out on people that use sport-shift and red-line their engines all the time.
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Originally posted by ScotTLTypeS
The AutoWeek article says 'some' 2003 TLs and CLs. I sure hope I receive one of those letters in the next few weeks...
The AutoWeek article says 'some' 2003 TLs and CLs. I sure hope I receive one of those letters in the next few weeks...
1) Hope you get a letter, which means you're covered.. but also means your tranny could fail at any time
2) Hope you don't get a letter which means you should be clear, however, should you have a problem, you don't have the extended warranty (although if your tranny did fail... I'm sure they'd cover it)......
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Originally posted by juniorbean
hmmm.... that's a tough call.
1) Hope you get a letter, which means you're covered.. but also means your tranny could fail at any time
2) Hope you don't get a letter which means you should be clear, however, should you have a problem, you don't have the extended warranty (although if your tranny did fail... I'm sure they'd cover it)......
hmmm.... that's a tough call.
1) Hope you get a letter, which means you're covered.. but also means your tranny could fail at any time
2) Hope you don't get a letter which means you should be clear, however, should you have a problem, you don't have the extended warranty (although if your tranny did fail... I'm sure they'd cover it)......
You're probably right on both points!!!
1) Maybe I don't want to get the letter.
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2) Now that they've stepped up to the plate on this issue, they probably would cover it anyway.
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I feel better now...
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finally some good news about the tranny! All this talk about tranny failures is making me paranoid. Its good to see Honda backing their product, hopefully they'll do more to fix the problem as well.
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I do not think the extended warranty is an acceptable solution. Honda/Acura should've issued a recall and replace transmissions in question. I would not feel comfortable driving a car with a transmission ready to quit at any moment at 80 mph.
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Good news about the tranny! Who cares what the percentage is, as long as they fix it. HOWEVER, I think that it had to be higher than 1.6% on the TL-S, from what we've seen here.
But, as I said, this will at least get us all through the prime of life for our cars. I guess the thing that always worried me most was that the tranny would die (again) in the off warrnaty period.
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But, as I said, this will at least get us all through the prime of life for our cars. I guess the thing that always worried me most was that the tranny would die (again) in the off warrnaty period.
:-jon
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I asked this question in the TL forum, but no reply. Does this extended warranty on tranny only apply to people who have problem with their tranny now? Or does it apply to all the mentioned models regardless the current status of their tranny? In other word, if my 2000 has 50001 miles and the tranny fails, will it be covered by this extended warranty? Thanks.
#23
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ALL TLs covered(the years mentioned, anyway), regardless of prior failure history.
It's good to know that Honda has stepped up to the plate on this. It makes me feel much better about keeping the car.
And, yes, I DO think the current failures to date had to do with driving style (not necessarily talking about redlining, either) and mods. Mind you, that doesn't make it right, BUT, if you think that adding a supercharger should have no effect on the longevity of a transmission, well, then, I don't know what to say.
Todd
It's good to know that Honda has stepped up to the plate on this. It makes me feel much better about keeping the car.
And, yes, I DO think the current failures to date had to do with driving style (not necessarily talking about redlining, either) and mods. Mind you, that doesn't make it right, BUT, if you think that adding a supercharger should have no effect on the longevity of a transmission, well, then, I don't know what to say.
Todd
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Originally posted by oblio98
Good news about the tranny! Who cares what the percentage is, as long as they fix it. HOWEVER, I think that it had to be higher than 1.6% on the TL-S, from what we've seen here.
But, as I said, this will at least get us all through the prime of life for our cars. I guess the thing that always worried me most was that the tranny would die (again) in the off warrnaty period.
:-jon
Good news about the tranny! Who cares what the percentage is, as long as they fix it. HOWEVER, I think that it had to be higher than 1.6% on the TL-S, from what we've seen here.
But, as I said, this will at least get us all through the prime of life for our cars. I guess the thing that always worried me most was that the tranny would die (again) in the off warrnaty period.
:-jon
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You know what, when majority of the publics know about this, no one will want to buy our car by the time we sell them, (over 100K or 7 yrs). only way is to trade and get ripped off by dealer.
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Originally posted by T Ho
And, yes, I DO think the current failures to date had to do with driving style (not necessarily talking about redlining, either) and mods. Mind you, that doesn't make it right, BUT, if you think that adding a supercharger should have no effect on the longevity of a transmission, well, then, I don't know what to say.
Todd
And, yes, I DO think the current failures to date had to do with driving style (not necessarily talking about redlining, either) and mods. Mind you, that doesn't make it right, BUT, if you think that adding a supercharger should have no effect on the longevity of a transmission, well, then, I don't know what to say.
Todd
The failures have nothing to do with the driver. Not only do the gathered stats on this and other sites back this, but my dealer and Honda stated that fact also.
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That really sucks for the ones (me!!) that have already purchased the 7 year, 100k mile warranty because they were paranoid about the tranny when they bought the car!!
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This is still a poor excuse on acura part. I mean ok now you got the warrenty... and IF your tranny does go out, its free.. well thats good news.. but how about how most have to wait almost A MONTH for it? So basicly you are without a car for a month or so. Still doesnt tickle my pee pee
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#30
It would be nice to hear what is excatly wrong with the tranny's. Honda is on the right track and they will surely come up with a more durable tranny. The number of tranny's that may now be repaired under the extended warranty could easily double. I seldom if ever use SS mode and would not even remotely consider my driving habits abusive to the car, I still have the original tires at 44K. Having now had two units replaced, I have to think that something else is the root cause.
I wonder if the VSA feature may be a problem. Is this a feature in the reg TL and other models. Both times just prior to the tranny going the VSA would go on and off constantly.
I wonder if the VSA feature may be a problem. Is this a feature in the reg TL and other models. Both times just prior to the tranny going the VSA would go on and off constantly.
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I too have a 2003 TL-S, manufactured in June of 2002 ... I don't know if I want the letter or not!!!
I too have a 2003 TL-S, manufactured in June of 2002 ... I don't know if I want the letter or not!!!
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How did you find the exact manufacture date of your vehicle. ? Is it encoded in the VIN # ?
#32
I was at my dealer today for the new owners clinic. The service manager told me all Tl and TLS are covered regardless of manufactured date. i.e. all the way to 2003.
If they selectively extend the warrent to only a certain VIN # cars it should be a recall situation.i.e, they know that there is a known identifiable problem which has been later been fixed on other models. This would be bad PR f they admit what the cause of hte problem is. Extending a warrenty would not be a solution - customers should demand a recall.
There position seems to be there is a higher than normal incident of failure on these cars, but it is random and small % that they wish to back this up by extending everybodies warrenty.
Alg
If they selectively extend the warrent to only a certain VIN # cars it should be a recall situation.i.e, they know that there is a known identifiable problem which has been later been fixed on other models. This would be bad PR f they admit what the cause of hte problem is. Extending a warrenty would not be a solution - customers should demand a recall.
There position seems to be there is a higher than normal incident of failure on these cars, but it is random and small % that they wish to back this up by extending everybodies warrenty.
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I don't think we should be satisfied with the extended warranty. Think about it....will an extended warranty save your life if your tranny acts up on the highway? Does it ultimately address the safety hazard? Unfortunately, the answer to both is no.
Like someone said above, the figures for the TL/CL are most likely skewed. A safety hazard should be recalled. It's a real pitty that Honda may have to recall our trannys...as it will cost them lots. However, that's the way business goes.
Like someone said above, the figures for the TL/CL are most likely skewed. A safety hazard should be recalled. It's a real pitty that Honda may have to recall our trannys...as it will cost them lots. However, that's the way business goes.
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Props to Honda. It takes balls to extend a warranty on a known faulty part. Honda must have localized the problem and determined how many cars it will likely affect. Maybe they have insurance that protects them from manufacturing blunders.
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Originally posted by Pascal Type-S
Props to Honda. It takes balls to extend a warranty on a known faulty part. Honda must have localized the problem and determined how many cars it will likely affect. Maybe they have insurance that protects them from manufacturing blunders.
Props to Honda. It takes balls to extend a warranty on a known faulty part. Honda must have localized the problem and determined how many cars it will likely affect. Maybe they have insurance that protects them from manufacturing blunders.
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Honda has done the right thing for both the customer and for its reputation as well. It will compensate the customers with the tranny problems and give those of us who own them a little peace of mind... but this is not over just yet. It will surely end up a full-blown recall...
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Originally posted by ScotTLTypeS
The AutoWeek article says 'some' 2003 TLs and CLs. I sure hope I receive one of those letters in the next few weeks...
The AutoWeek article says 'some' 2003 TLs and CLs. I sure hope I receive one of those letters in the next few weeks...
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Originally posted by NY03TLS
How did you find the exact manufacture date of your vehicle. ? Is it encoded in the VIN # ?
How did you find the exact manufacture date of your vehicle. ? Is it encoded in the VIN # ?
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Man... there is no pleasing you guys huh?? Why would Acura recall a total of 1.2 million cars when only 16k have had problems. Regardless of if Acura is padding the numbers or not.... however you look at it it's less then 2% failure... which is below the industry standard for reported problems.
I think this is a good move by Honda/Acura. Of course it's a CYA move... but a good move regardless. Something like this will probably cost Acura in the neighborhood of $750k or so... just to notify the owners. A recall would be waaay to expensive and it's not justified right now. As for the trannies failing on the highway... it is dangerous.. I'll agree with that.... but it's also been an isolated occurance. From what I've been reading it's been happening at lower speeds... some while just accelerating from a stop. If it was like Ford/Firestone.... then it would be a different story.....
I think this is a good move by Honda/Acura. Of course it's a CYA move... but a good move regardless. Something like this will probably cost Acura in the neighborhood of $750k or so... just to notify the owners. A recall would be waaay to expensive and it's not justified right now. As for the trannies failing on the highway... it is dangerous.. I'll agree with that.... but it's also been an isolated occurance. From what I've been reading it's been happening at lower speeds... some while just accelerating from a stop. If it was like Ford/Firestone.... then it would be a different story.....
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Too little too late...
And Juniorbean, I was traveling 75-80 mph on the highway when my tranny failed both times...I just hope no one gets killed from this. It's obvious Honda is willing to take the risk...I suppose they figured the risk of a resulting wrongful death lawsuit costs less then a recall...
And Juniorbean, I was traveling 75-80 mph on the highway when my tranny failed both times...I just hope no one gets killed from this. It's obvious Honda is willing to take the risk...I suppose they figured the risk of a resulting wrongful death lawsuit costs less then a recall...
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