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Old 03-16-2010 | 08:22 PM
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I have a 2002 tl type s and i am planning to buy a new whole kit. But i have some question first

1. i know that our car have factory hid. does it mean it have a ballast too? and do i need to remove that ballast since im putting in a new hid kit ( which have ballast too)

2. do i have to disconnect my battery? or no?

3. it look like there not much space wise ? do i need to take out the intake or anything

4.what is another way to remove the 20 torx because the nut is mess up.

5. i am suppose to twist the black rubber. however it seem very hard and doesnt move at ll.

6. THANKSS! i am a noob to this.
Old 03-16-2010 | 08:46 PM
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1)Yes, the factory ballast is located under the headlight housing.
2)No, just unplug the clips
3)Easy if you take out your bumper
4)I opened my headlights and saw no torx, so I can't help you on that one
5) Black rubber? If you meant the black cover that houses the HID, it should be fairly easy to twist.
6) No problem, hope I helped.

Note: Make sure you do NOT touch the HID bulb with your hands, wear some gloves.
Old 03-16-2010 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by th1eve_617
I have a 2002 tl type s and i am planning to buy a new whole kit. But i have some question first

1. i know that our car have factory hid. does it mean it have a ballast too? and do i need to remove that ballast since im putting in a new hid kit ( which have ballast too)

2. do i have to disconnect my battery? or no?

3. it look like there not much space wise ? do i need to take out the intake or anything

4.what is another way to remove the 20 torx because the nut is mess up.

5. i am suppose to twist the black rubber. however it seem very hard and doesnt move at ll.

6. THANKSS! i am a noob to this.
1). You DONT need a whole kit. You JUST need the bulbs

2).You dont have to but it makes it safer.

3).You dont need to take the intake out, but it will give you more space

4). Why would the torx be messed up? Its a security torx that has a piece in the middle to make it so you dont tamper with it. You can get them at any auto parts stores.

5). the black rubber doesnt twist, it pulls out. The Black cover how ever that covers the rubber does twist and needs to be twisted hard.
Old 03-16-2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by II LeGeNDz II
1)Yes, the factory ballast is located under the headlight housing.
2)No, just unplug the clips
3)Easy if you take out your bumper
4)I opened my headlights and saw no torx, so I can't help you on that one
5) Black rubber? If you meant the black cover that houses the HID, it should be fairly easy to twist.
6) No problem, hope I helped.

Note: Make sure you do NOT touch the HID bulb with your hands, wear some gloves.
Taking your bumper off doenst make changing the bulb any easier unless you completely remove the headlight. (which is unnecessary)
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I assumed he wanted to change the ballast. Thanks for the correction.
Old 03-16-2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by II LeGeNDz II
I assumed he wanted to change the ballast. Thanks for the correction.
Figured as much, just thought i would clarify.
Old 03-16-2010 | 09:23 PM
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if you cant get a $2 torx SECURITY 20 bit at the parts store-
take a dremel cutting blade to the screw head and make it into a flatblade fitting

Finding the locking clip at the rear of bulb is a trick- get a mechanics inspection mirror to see whats happening
Old 03-16-2010 | 10:14 PM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding, I wanted to put a hid kit in there. Can I just leave the old ballast there than put my hid kit in? Sorry it kinda confusing.... IF I buy the bulb only( ebay d2r 6oook) would it work properly with the stock ballast? thanks for the previous answer, it help me a lot. Yeah I would not like to remove the bumper since I'm such a noobie lol
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If that's the case all you need to do is change the bulb to your bulb.
Old 03-17-2010 | 07:00 AM
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6000k is a little hard to see with- 5000k is nice , with more blue and abilty to pick out road marking lines than stock, 4300 was stock color rating

All you need is the bulbs, car has ballast and capacitor HID system installed stock
vendor Excelerate has Kaixen brand, used by many here
Old 03-17-2010 | 07:32 AM
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All you need is bulbs. You DONT need a whole kit.
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i put in a whole new kit for 80 bucks, just attached the new ballasts to the old ones with gorilla tape and zip ties, hard wired it into the wiring harness, drilled a whole through the service cover and fed the igniter wire into and hooked up the new bulbs. sealed up with silicon. no problems.
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^^
I helped a friend do this except we removed the factory ballast and used a piece of plastic and silicone adhesive'd it in place around the wiring using the factory entrance to the lense. This worked like a charm.
Old 03-17-2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
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I helped a friend do this except we removed the factory ballast and used a piece of plastic and silicone adhesive'd it in place around the wiring using the factory entrance to the lense. This worked like a charm.
yep yep, cheap and easy fix. works great. you just need a little nerve to drill a hole in the headlight.
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Well...if you step back from the project and really look and understand what you're doing...it really isn't rocket science...people just get overwhelmed cause it SEEMS intimidating.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Well...if you step back from the project and really look and understand what you're doing...it really isn't rocket science...people just get overwhelmed cause it SEEMS intimidating.
yea, id say its easier than blacking out the headlights, you just need to have a little basic electrical wiring skills, thats it. I might make a DIY sometime, it will help people save a lot of money if they blew a ballast.

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Old 03-17-2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by th1eve_617
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I wanted to put a hid kit in there. Can I just leave the old ballast there than put my hid kit in? Sorry it kinda confusing.... IF I buy the bulb only( ebay d2r 6oook) would it work properly with the stock ballast? thanks for the previous answer, it help me a lot. Yeah I would not like to remove the bumper since I'm such a noobie lol
If you're just looking for a different bulb color temp, just buy the bulbs. You don't need to change out the whole system. The bulbs should work fine with the factory ballasts.
Old 03-17-2010 | 07:47 PM
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Thank you I just change the bulb than
Old 03-20-2010 | 08:35 PM
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I washed my tl and some water got in my headlight and it cut out. i went to buy the replacement headlight for it but they said it needs to be specially ordered... is that true or can i just get a 12000k hid for it and call it a day?
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I washed my tl and some water got in my headlight and it cut out. i went to buy the replacement headlight for it but they said it needs to be specially ordered... is that true or can i just get a 12000k hid for it and call it a day?
Auto parts stores dont carry the HIDs. If you do buy new ones buy them in PAIRS. And dont go 12k, Nothing is brighter than the stock 4300
Old 03-20-2010 | 08:42 PM
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well i was going to them in pairs. so the stock ones are the brightest you can go?
Old 03-20-2010 | 08:44 PM
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well i was going to them in pairs. so the stock ones are the brightest you can go?
Higher than 4300K you start losing light output. The higher you go, the crappier output you get. You can get different colors going higher but they won't light up the road very well. I wouldn't go any higher than 6000K.
Old 03-20-2010 | 08:48 PM
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nice. how do i go about getting the lights? because they are charging me 100
Old 03-20-2010 | 09:08 PM
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Try the vendors here in the BlackMarket.

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/

They have very good prices. HIDextra and Kaixen from Excelerate are available here.
Old 03-21-2010 | 12:04 AM
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sweet thanks man.
Old 03-21-2010 | 12:14 AM
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i cant find the 4300k is the 5000k good?
Old 03-21-2010 | 01:56 AM
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i cant find the 4300k is the 5000k good?
That'll be fine, It's supposed to be a bit whiter than 4300K. The light output loss will be minimal, you probably won't even be able to tell.
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I went with ddmtuning and have been happy. Good output on the 6K ones...and were $29 for the set.

Why was water getting in the headlights?
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I just bought the car like 5 days ago. I went through a car wash to wash it and i guess it wasnt sealed tight enough. But when it rains water doesnt get in.
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That's more than likely condensation trapped inside. Look up a thread I have on that. I used a blowdryer and some teflon tape and was able to stop that.

Do you have modified lights? Meaning, did the prv owner open them up?
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They arent modified but im starting to think they did open them. my problem is i have no tools and i dont even know what kind of tape that is.
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Teflon tape is sold in hardware stores..meant to wrap plumbing threading.
hairdryer...well you know what that does.
When you get the condensation next time...pop hood...unplug stock fog bulb....and unplug the little plug where the HID wiring runs thru (you'll see it)...now take a piece of garden hose and duct tape it to a shopvac nozzle (or make something out of a 2 liter bottle to channel the air). Now run the blowdryer on high and HOT until the condensation evaporates and is forced out. Then wrap the base of your fog bulb with some teflon tape to ensure a tight seal when put back in.

I changed to clear lights and put my OEM's in the attic for 2 weeks. reinstalled them last week and had condensation big time. So I confirmed my original thought...that the condensation doesn't come from water leaking in, it comes from the change in lens temp when water or cold is applied outside and condensation is trapped inside. If everything inside the light is stock, they probably didn't open them.

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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Teflon tape is sold in hardware stores..meant to wrap plumbing threading.
hairdryer...well you know what that does.
When you get the condensation next time...pop hood...unplug stock fog bulb....and unplug the little plug where the HID wiring runs thru (you'll see it)...now take a piece of garden hose and duct tape it to a shopvac nozzle (or make something out of a 2 liter bottle to channel the air). Now run the blowdryer on high and HOT until the condensation evaporates and is forced out. Then wrap the base of your fog bulb with some teflon tape to ensure a tight seal when put back in.

I changed to clear lights and put my OEM's in the attic for 2 weeks. reinstalled them last week and had condensation big time. So I confirmed my original thought...that the condensation doesn't come from water leaking in, it comes from the change in lens temp when water or cold is applied outside and condensation is trapped inside. If everything inside the light is stock, they probably didn't open them.

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AAaaaah idk man that sounded like too much for me. Im on a military base. i dont have tools like that...lol
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AAaaaah idk man that sounded like too much for me. Im on a military base. i dont have tools like that...lol
are you serious???? take advantage of the auto hobby shop. i think that was my favorite thing when i was in the military. it's actually the only thing i miss about military
Old 03-22-2010 | 09:14 PM
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lol I want to but i dont want to fuck up the car. i would work on my old hondas but then when i got done with one thing something else would get fucked up. But this sounds a little complicated for me.
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haha well good luck to you. i'm assuming you are a marine from Jax. find maybe a friend that has experience with this and tackle it at the hobby shop? VA beach had the best hobby shop i'd been to. LOVED it there.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Teflon tape is sold in hardware stores..meant to wrap plumbing threading.
hairdryer...well you know what that does.
When you get the condensation next time...pop hood...unplug stock fog bulb....and unplug the little plug where the HID wiring runs thru (you'll see it)...now take a piece of garden hose and duct tape it to a shopvac nozzle (or make something out of a 2 liter bottle to channel the air). Now run the blowdryer on high and HOT until the condensation evaporates and is forced out. Then wrap the base of your fog bulb with some teflon tape to ensure a tight seal when put back in.

I changed to clear lights and put my OEM's in the attic for 2 weeks. reinstalled them last week and had condensation big time. So I confirmed my original thought...that the condensation doesn't come from water leaking in, it comes from the change in lens temp when water or cold is applied outside and condensation is trapped inside. If everything inside the light is stock, they probably didn't open them.

good luck!


Ok It took me a while but i finally get what u mean. Now when i do this should i take out all the bulbs or just unplug them. I have no fog lights. i guess the other owner took them out before trading it in. so i have no fog lights or the wiring to them.
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Originally Posted by Elcoqui128
Ok It took me a while but i finally get what u mean. Now when i do this should i take out all the bulbs or just unplug them. I have no fog lights. i guess the other owner took them out before trading it in. so i have no fog lights or the wiring to them.
what year do you have? the 99-01 didn't have fogs. only 02-03 came stock.
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i have an 03. yeah the bumpers has the holes its just the lights are gone and so is the wiring. The inside got the fog light button. just got no lights...lol
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must have gotten the weight reduction package


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