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Old 02-03-2007, 01:56 PM
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HID Kits

I was just wondering if anybody has bough aftermarket HID kits and what K kit they bought. And if anybody had any pics with the kits installed. Im looking for suggestions for where to buy and what kind of kit to buy.
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why a kit? The TL comes with HID's You looking for new replacement bulbs or for fogs?
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i want a new HID kit because one of my bulbs blew out and it costs 140 from the dealer for a new bulb. Plus i dont wnat to deal with this stock bullshit i want something much brighter than stock so thats why i wnat a new HID kit any suggestions now?
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You dont need a kit. You just need replacement bulbs.

You WONT get any brighter than stock. HIDs dont work that way. They are all the same wattage. You can get different Kelvin but all that does is change the color. It wont make them brighter. It will make actually less useable light. Id stick with the stock 4300k
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Originally Posted by nikep15
i want a new HID kit because one of my bulbs blew out and it costs 140 from the dealer for a new bulb. Plus i dont wnat to deal with this stock bullshit i want something much brighter than stock so thats why i wnat a new HID kit any suggestions now?
You can buy the bulbs for much less than $140 each. I bought a pair of Philips 4300K D2R bulbs for less than $35 each on eBay.

And, as fsttyms1 noted, the stock 4300K bulbs are the best in terms of lighting up the road. If you want something that looks cool you can go to the higher Kelvin ratings. But even those that have installed 6000K bulbs have reported that they don't light up the road as well. And they can be even worse in the rain.

Everyone has to make their own call on this but my primary goal is to see the road clearly. I'm sticking with the stock 4300K bulbs.

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Old 02-03-2007, 05:13 PM
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i know that its not going to be any brighter i just want a different color so does anybody have any suggestsions besides just buying new bulbs?
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How do you expect to change the color without buying new bulbs? Try eBay, or you can go with the kauxen groupbuy if it is still on.
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i mean getting a new HID Kit i want suggestions for THAT not anything else thanks
Old 02-03-2007, 07:27 PM
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bro, you dont need a "KIT", all you have to replace is the BULBS. Go on eBay and search D2R HID bulbs. They should have pics of the different color bulbs.
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wow ...i think this kid doesn't understand he does not need a kit!
It was said plenty of times...
noooob!
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so you guys are saying that the stock ballasts will push enough power to support a 10K bulb? and will it look as good as an aftermarket HID kit?
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yes and yes
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the stock ballast is designed for abuse my friend...

not to mention.. stock hids are always near 4000K because it produces the most natural white light and the higher Kelvin u go.... (around 8K or higher...)... the more bluer tint... which actually end up making ur eyes TIRED......


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red stock blue

LEAST BURN more burn to eyes
to eyes

k my diagram sucks but the point is.. the closer u have it to the red spectrum.. the more light and better it is for ur eyes.. thats y factory lighting is not freagin 8K..

eg.. in submarines and stuff.. thats y they have RED LIGHTing.. cuz it doesnt' make the eyes as tired....u will notice that in most miltary applications..

also... the higher the kelvin.. the least amount of lighting ur getting because its mixed with other gases to produce the higher Ks...... 8000K is not as bright as 4300K ..

now.. i personally have 8K fogs cuz the bastard gave me the wrong one... so i'm stuck with it.. not complainming but the 8K's will make ur factory ones look like halogens because there is a big difference... (close up... from far away.. they both look blue)
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I have 6000k bulbs (replaced BULBS only) I bought them for 90bux on eBay. They make 6000-10000k bulbs. The bulbs are JDM ones called D2C, which fit both D2R and D2S.
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Originally Posted by JpnSamurai
I have 6000k bulbs (replaced BULBS only) I bought them for 90bux on eBay. They make 6000-10000k bulbs. The bulbs are JDM ones called D2C, which fit both D2R and D2S.
I read about the new D2C bulbs. What exactly is the difference? Are they any brighter than our D2Rs?
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Originally Posted by RidinDurty
I read about the new D2C bulbs. What exactly is the difference? Are they any brighter than our D2Rs?
i dunno much about them either. cant really compare cuz i never had or seen anyone who is close to me dat has D2R 6000k. I dunt think there is a bid diff.
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Originally Posted by nikep15
so you guys are saying that the stock ballasts will push enough power to support a 10K bulb? and will it look as good as an aftermarket HID kit?
They are all 35 watts. Yes they will work. Why you would want a 10k bulb???? I would rather have what produces the most light over what looks "blue"
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cant blame you though before i joined acurazine i wanted 10k hid's but when i learned that stock ones are better in the sense that they produce more light i would rather have that than deep blue lights....good luck on your decision
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Originally Posted by Bob_F
You can buy the bulbs for much less than $140 each. I bought a pair of Philips 4300K D2R bulbs for less than $35 each on eBay.

And, as fsttyms1 noted, the stock 4300K bulbs are the best in terms of lighting up the road. If you want something that looks cool you can go to the higher Kelvin ratings. But even those that have installed 6000K bulbs have reported that they don't light up the road as well. And they can be even worse in the rain.

Everyone has to make their own call on this but my primary goal is to see the road clearly. I'm sticking with the stock 4300K bulbs.

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i bought for $50 for 2 oem phillips 4300k bulbs =]
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Originally Posted by nikep15
so you guys are saying that the stock ballasts will push enough power to support a 10K bulb? and will it look as good as an aftermarket HID kit?
i know why you are confused. and no one has yet to address this problem. reason you think aftermarket kits are brighter is because cars without stock HID, like for example RSX, the housing and lens were made for halogens. they have nothing to dampen the lighting brightness. cars with HID like 2ng gen TL have a thick lens and later model 2nd gen have caps to bounce the light around to keep it shooting directly. cars like rsx dont have anything like that. so thats why they are hella brighter.

sorry if it sounds confusing because my automotive vocabulary aint the best =] good luck.
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
i bought for $50 for 2 oem phillips 4300k bulbs =]
That's great! Where did you buy them?

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I want the 10 K bulb cause i just like the look of them and also i dont have any problems seeing at night so the brightness wont be that big of a deal. Also is there a way to know in my 01 TL if its the ballasts or the ignitor, or the actual bulb thats blown? before the bulb went it started going a sort of pink-ish color and then it started flickering and the bulb got really blue. Now it doesnt turn on at all but if i turn the lights on and off a few times the bulb comes on and stays on for like 30 secs. and then goes out.
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Originally Posted by nikep15
Also is there a way to know in my 01 TL if its the ballasts or the ignitor, or the actual bulb thats blown? before the bulb went it started going a sort of pink-ish color and then it started flickering and the bulb got really blue. Now it doesnt turn on at all but if i turn the lights on and off a few times the bulb comes on and stays on for like 30 secs. and then goes out.
If the other bulb is working fine you can swap the left and right bulbs. If the problem follows the bulb, you have a bad bulb.

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Originally Posted by nikep15
I want the 10 K bulb cause i just like the look of them and also i dont have any problems seeing at night so the brightness wont be that big of a deal. Also is there a way to know in my 01 TL if its the ballasts or the ignitor, or the actual bulb thats blown? before the bulb went it started going a sort of pink-ish color and then it started flickering and the bulb got really blue. Now it doesnt turn on at all but if i turn the lights on and off a few times the bulb comes on and stays on for like 30 secs. and then goes out.
it's toasted.

they're not like a standard halogen light, where teh filament breaks, so it cannot work at all - it'll kind of work. sorta...
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KAIXEN offers a very reliable and high quality product. They offer HID upgrade bulbs too.

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/kaixen-hid-kit-groupbuy-330409/
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What exactly, is the best mod to do to the fog lights AND high beam bulbs, to make them brighter AND match stock?

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Originally Posted by KrAzYForever
What exactly, is the best mod to do to the fog lights AND high beam bulbs, to make them brighter AND match stock?

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If you want them to match perfectly you will need to HID kits. You can get some bulbs to come close but it won't match in brightness or color.
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Keep in mind that HID kits - new bulbs and ballasts - are made for non-HID housings. The HID bulbs in those kits are made to fit halogen housings (eg: like the 9006 in the fogs), and their connectors between the aftermarket HID bulbs and aftermarket ballasts are AMP connectors rather than the typical D2R or D2S connectors. So your OEM ballasts won't work with aftermarket kit bulbs, and your aftermarket kit bulbs won't fit into your HID housings. Pretty much, just stick with getting replacement HID D2R bulbs rather than an aftermarket kit. They make 10k D2Rs, but the the light output is pretty bad, as everyone else said.

If you still wanna go with an HID kit, most people recommend stuff at xenondepot.com cuz they use Phillips ballasts and rebased Phillips bulbs. Otherwise, its pretty much hit-or-miss with the cheap ebay kits.


Don't put HIDs into the stock highbeams. HID aren't made to go on and off really fast so if you did that with HIDs in the highbeams, you'll most likely reduce the life of the bulbs and ballasts. For fogs, just get a 4300K HID kit for 9006 housings to match.
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Thanks for the info! I got a little confused about the high beam part. So I should just get HID D2R bulbs and put them in the place of the 9005 bulbs?
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Newbie, take it from all of us when we say you DON'T NEED A KIT (yes I am yelling). When I bought my Philips 4100K D2R bulbs from Ebay a while back, they were brighter than my original bulbs. I'm assuming just less hours of use is why. If you want a different color, just get 6000K or 8000K, but be warned, less useable light on the road when you do that. Many of us have tried numerous combinations, and it always comes down to stock color temp being the brightest. Others go with higher kelvin temps for the "look" more than functionality.

Use this forum and really read the posts, we want to make sure we get you what you need and not spend any extra money that may cause you more headaches down the road! If not, hey, we tried...
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Originally Posted by KrAzYForever
Thanks for the info! I got a little confused about the high beam part. So I should just get HID D2R bulbs and put them in the place of the 9005 bulbs?

I would say no. You could get some PIAA bulbs or some other good brand aftermarket bulbs for your high beams, just replace your stock D2R HID bulbs on the outer part of your headlight housing
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