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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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can someone help me.

i am changing shocks.

to get then strut assembly back in..
i had push down the lower control arm.
to put the strut back into the base of the fork.

but now...and i cannot believe this...
i cannot get the brake and rotor assembly back up into the upper control arm.

it's like jammed.

like the cv joint pulled out or the steering rack side pulled out.

any ideas.

i'll post pics in a minute.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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This sounds like a problem i had with my Civic SI a while back. What i did was twisted it until it popped back into place. This was the wrong thing to do. Once i got it all back together, there was this feeling like i was going over a small speed bump with every turn of the wheel. I ended up having to take it to a shop and it cost me about $200 to fix it. Sorry no advice except what not to do!! Hope it helps!
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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did you undo any ball joints?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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here is a link to changing them if you dont alrady have it
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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damn.
i think i pulled the inner cv joint apart...

ugh.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
did you undo any ball joints?
the upper
help me, fsttyms1...

i think i might have to take apart the whol drive assembly.
to get the inner cv joint.

but htis means replace the boot also.

ugh
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
here is a link to changing them if you dont alrady have it
thanks.

i'll do it without taking the upper ball joint apart, on the other side.
right now, i have problems.

i might have to get a tow, now.

i dont' want to force this.

it looks like it definitely loosed from the inner cv joint.

ever take these apart before?.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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If you need a new boot, it will be easier to just buy a new cv axle and swap out the whole thing. Most parts stores should have them for not too much $. They will more than likely require the core that you pull out of your car.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
thanks.

i'll do it without taking the upper ball joint apart, on the other side.
right now, i have problems.

i might have to get a tow, now.

i dont' want to force this.

it looks like it definitely loosed from the inner cv joint.

ever take these apart before?.
You will need either a prybar or a strong large screwdriver to remove the CV from the tranny or intermediate shaft depending on which side you're working on
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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see if you can grab the half shaft before and after teh joint (the one you think you pulled apart. (they do have alot of movement and when it gets to the max they can some times jet jamed. try wiggling and forcing them together. also try beating on the half shaft nut/spindle area (get a block of wood to hit) while supporting the lower control arm with a jack.
, to see if you can get it to pop back together
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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but i should be able to get in there and put it back together.
i'm looking at my manual, now.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dands99tl
You will need either a prybar or a strong large screwdriver to remove the CV from the tranny or intermediate shaft depending on which side you're working on
you cant get teh half shaft out with out removing the half shaft nut on the hub
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
see if you can grab the half shaft before and after teh joint (the one you think you pulled apart. (they do have alot of movement and when it gets to the max they can some times jet jamed. try wiggling and forcing them together. also try beating on the half shaft nut/spindle area (get a block of wood to hit) while supporting the lower control arm with a jack.
, to see if you can get it to pop back together
ok...let me try this.

appreciate your help.

this has gone all wrong.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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but i should be able to get in there and put it back together.
i'm looking at my manual, now.
try the above method i mentioned. i had it happen on mine while trying to remove my tranny. also at the joint is there play in it suggesting that its pulled apart?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you cant get teh half shaft out with out removing the half shaft nut on the hub
u say i can pull the whole inner joint out without
undoing the tie rod end and lower ball joint?.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
try the above method i mentioned. i had it happen on mine while trying to remove my tranny. also at the joint is there play in it suggesting that its pulled apart?
yes there is.

the inner half going into the inner cv joint pulled about 1/2 out past the boot end.
i can see the grease on the shaft.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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if the half shaft nut is removed, and teh upper ball joint is removed you may be able to, but getting the half shaft nut off is going to be tough. i would try every thing to get it back into place on the car. it may just be jamed, and i dont think it should have come completly apart with teh move ment allowed. something else may be holding it
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
yes there is.

the inner half going into the inner cv joint pulled about 1/2 out past the boot end.
i can see the grease on the shaft.
hummmm maybe it did pull apart.

i would suggest getting a 36MM socket and removing the half shaft nut (remember to take a screw driver to the key way and bend up the end of the nut) remove the half shaft and see if you can get it back together. if not bring it to a shop that can put a new boot on it. at which point it can be put bac into place (it will be alot cheaper than bringing it in to be fixed.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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If you need to remove the axle nut, you will need either,
A. Impact gun
B. LONG breaker bar and someone to mash the brakes while you are loosening the axle nut.

Both require a 32mm socket for the axle nut.

I would do like fsttyms1 said and see if you can get the CV back together.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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what part is pulled apart?
the inner or outer? how can you tell?
oh this is the passenger side from the tl
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dands99tl
If you need to remove the axle nut, you will need either,
A. Impact gun
B. LONG breaker bar and someone to mash the brakes while you are loosening the axle nut.

Both require a 32mm socket for the axle nut.

I would do like fsttyms1 said and see if you can get the CV back together.
its 36mm (thats the one i have and used on mine)
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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Oops sorry about that, I have only changed axles on my other cars, which require a 32mm axle nut, but I can see with the larger car why it would have a larger nut. THanks for the info!
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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it's the inner.
i can rotate the hub driveshaft assembly and the joint inside the inner boot rotates.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
it's the inner.
i can rotate the hub driveshaft assembly and the joint inside the inner boot rotates.
try not to move it around to much. there are round bearings that could fall off. if you cant get it back togeather in the caryou may want to get a 36mm socket and breaker bar and try to remove teh half shaft. (lots of parts stores rent those things) and get teh half shaft out. then you will better be able to get it back together
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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must go get a 36mm socket.
the half shaft nut is the big nut in the center of the hub ...right?.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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should i go to acura and get a new inner boot?.
before they close.
think they have it stock.

i could just replace the clamps on the boot.

thx, Kris.

i took today off work, to do this.
damn.

if i get the shaft out....where would i take it to get fixed?.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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must go get a 36mm socket.
the half shaft nut is the big nut in the center of the hub ...right?.
yes, make sure you get a screw driver in the key way on the nut and pry up the little tab
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
should i go to acura and get a new inner boot?.
before they close.
think they have it stock.

i could just replace the clamps on the boot.

thx, Kris.

i took today off work, to do this.
damn.

if i get the shaft out....where would i take it to get fixed?.
call any tranny shops and see if they can repack it for you today, or a small garage that can do it
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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well..
shit.
i cannot get the center axle nut off.

the AAMCO in town said he repack the driveshaft
if i bring it in...

so...i have take it apart and bring the rotor assembly minus the
caliper..

but now i have a problem..

have you disconnected the anti lock brake line?.

i know it is under high pressure.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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get a big braker bar and a pipe. (make sure the brkaer bar is craftsman so if you brake it you can return it for an new one. and make sure you pry up on the key way on the nut.
also try to tighten it a little first then losen it. sometmes they can be stubborn
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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the problem is...
the upper b joint is off.
the inner cv joint rotates.
i even took off the tie rod end.

so i can put enuff tork on the nut..
even the brakes won't hold...

i got a big breaker bar...and a pipe.

i just turned the rotor..

the friggin brake isn't strong enough.

my wife pressing as hard as she can.

i'm going to cut the inner boot.
put the joint back together.
put the cut boot and some new hose clamps back on it.

then hopefully i can drive it.

then get new get cv joint boots, by a shop.

i just did the other side, with the link you sent..
without taking the upper b joint off..

worked great.

thanks so much, Kris...
u have been very helpful.
like a friend.

but it's not over yet..

check this thread during the weekend.


i'm so screwed.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Did you try using the brakes with the car on? You might need to start the car to get enough grab out of the brakes to hold the rotor. Just a thought.

You will also probably need to at least loosely put upper ball joint and whatever else is taken apart to that the brakes will work correctly without twisting other suspension parts.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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thank u also, Dands..

no haven't tried that.

i pulled the boot on the inner cvj.
the unit is pulled apart.


i will post a pic, in a second.

thx so much, dands99tl.

i wil try this 'car on thing'..

just need to put the kids to bed.

and get back to it.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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to stop the rotor from turning take the biggest screw driver and stick it inbetween teh rotor surfaces and spin it till it hits the caliper. that will hold it from spinning.

no problem for the help. if i was closer id come over and help
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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inner cv

this is the pulled out inner cv.
60.00 for the tow.
140.00 to put it back together.
expensive mistake.





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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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im glad you got it back together, to bad it ended up costing so much though. wish we coulda got you mback up and running so it didnt cost you
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