One of the reasons I went with the '01 TL rather than the Type-S was because I figured a TL with Comptech springs and sways, and fatter tires would handle as well as, or better than, a Type S. Can anyone compare the two based upon actual driving experience yet?

 

I can....my '99 (see sig for mods) handles better than the '02 Type S. I drove it yesterday, and there is no question about it.

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1999 Acura 3.2TL
Black with Ebony
Bridgestone Potenza RE730 (size: 225/55ZR-16 on stock rims)
AEM Cold Air Intake and Bi-Pass Valve
Comptech Headers
Mugen Exhaust
Comptech Sport Springs
Tokico Non-Adjustable Shocks
Comptech Swaybars
Wings West Spoiler
Burlwood Shift Knob

 

TITAN3.2TL: My springs just arrived, and I am waiting on my sways. I was considering installing the Tokico non-adjustables at the same time as the springs and sways, but figured I'd just ride out my stock shocks first (I just picked up my ride at the beginning of this month). How do you like the Tokicos? Did you buy them because your stock shocks went bad? Do they noticeably stiffen the ride?

 

I didn't notice much ride difference with the Tokicos. I would ride out the stock ones.

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1999 Acura 3.2TL
Black with Ebony
Bridgestone Potenza RE730 (size: 225/55ZR-16 on stock rims)
AEM Cold Air Intake and Bi-Pass Valve
Comptech Headers
Mugen Exhaust
Comptech Sport Springs
Tokico Non-Adjustable Shocks
Comptech Swaybars
Wings West Spoiler
Burlwood Shift Knob

 

My CL type S handles much times better after the comptech springs,sways than when I was stock.

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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs/Sway/Headers Polarg m-6.

 

 

I will grant the possibility that the Comptech springs might do better on smooth roads, but on any other surface I doubt it. Spring rates, Shock compression and rebound settings are critical, and the engineering horsepower is definitely in the favor of the mfr. What works on a billiard table seldom works in the real world.

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Rage On!
2000 TL w. Comptech header/exhaust
SSR Integral A2's
17x7 45mm offset
Pirelli P7000 (Summer) 215-50/17
Fender lips rolled

TL-S on order: Silver/NAV

 

I'm not sure I exactly understand what you are referring to. Can you explain? Are you just referring to springs, or overall handling? I also don't understand your reference to flat roads. Most of the roads I drive on are flat. If I anticipate non-flat roads, I'll take my SUV.

 

Thanks Tim.

p.s. ETA on the sways is the end of the month, right?

 

Let me explain.

By flat, I mean very smooth roads or racing circuits, as compared to roads such as in New England that are basically paved cow paths, and have negative crowns, iregularities everywhere, and are just jiggly. A very tightly sprung car (al la Comptech) will have less roadholding on this type of road.

Same is true for spring rates. Most Euro cars are softly sprung, but tightly shock damped and have long suspension excursions. This has proved over the years to give excellent roadholding, especially where there are bumps in mid corner, which can unsettle a lowered car due to spring rebound effects.

 

Now that more people have test-driven or picked up their TL-S's, I wanted to renew this thread: Which handles better, a TL w/comptech springs/sways and fatter tires, or the TL-S. After the mods, I would think the only thing the TL-S has on the TL is the torque-steering (haven't heard many comments about that) and the VSA. Has anyone taken the Pepsi challenge?

 

Wouldn't you think a TL-S w/comptech springs/sways and even fatter tires plus VSA be the best of all ?

 

If cost wasn't a factor, that would have been the best scenario. But in my case, I had a certain budget I was willing to spend on my car. If I would have chosen the TL-S, I wouldn't have had any extra cash in my budget to blow on mods, and would have had to settle for bone stock. Since I chose the '01 TL at a considerable discount, I could afford extras like the spoiler, rims, tires and suspension mods. Part of the reason why I went with the modded '01 was because if I got the TL-S I still would have wanted to blow $$$ on mods, but would not have been able to.

 

i had a 00tl with comptechs, and after driving the tls for a couple of hundred miles decided to drop it, the ride is actually a little more forgiving with comptechs, but firmer (if u can understand that) and it also handles much better due to lower center of gravity. i havnt done too much driving yet, so i cant speak for doing nething aggresive... but soon


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'02 Nighthawk TL-S
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Comptech Springs
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'00 Nighthawk TL
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Aem Short Ram / Comptech Sway Bars / Comptech Springs / Cross-Drilled Rotors / Pirelli SP7000 Tires
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Alpine CVA-1005 Head Unit / Alpine G320 EQ / Alpine DVA-5205 DVD / Alpine NVE-N851A Navi / JL Audio XR653-CS 3-Way comps for the front powered by a bridged Alpine MRV-F407 amp / Boston Acoustics 5.5 ProSeries 2-Way comps for the rear powered by Alpine MRV-1002 amp / Dual 10" JL Audio W-6 sub powered by Alpine MRV-1005 amp / Two Alpine CHA-1214 CD Changers
Pics of my TL and Fun/Crazy Pics


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ZodiakTL:

How do you like your P7000s? I'm picking up rims and tires over the weekend. I ordered the Bridgestone RE730s, but my tire guy said he'd give me a better deal on P7000s. Which would you recommend?

 

the p7000ss are absolutely amazing... when i put them on it increased my starts tremendously. where an 98 accord coupe that also had pirelli's would actually take me off the start by about a cars length with stock tires, once i put on the pirelli's, i started taking him off the start by about the same distance... they allow u to put down a whole lot more of those precious ponies to the pavement... and the wet traction is just unbelievable... i really couldnt image a car could handle this well in the rain... i mean yeah, high perf. tires will give u great handling in dry weather with amazing cornering and no squeeling, but to do the same on wet roads! i just dont have enough good things to say about that... its really one of the most important mods u can do to ur car... its amazing what i had to do to make the car lose its grip once it had the pirelli's on... u wont regret it... on that note, i will now try the re730's on my TL-S and see how the two compare...


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'02 Nighthawk TL-S
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Comptech Springs
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'00 Nighthawk TL
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Aem Short Ram / Comptech Sway Bars / Comptech Springs / Cross-Drilled Rotors / Pirelli SP7000 Tires
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Alpine CVA-1005 Head Unit / Alpine G320 EQ / Alpine DVA-5205 DVD / Alpine NVE-N851A Navi / JL Audio XR653-CS 3-Way comps for the front powered by a bridged Alpine MRV-F407 amp / Boston Acoustics 5.5 ProSeries 2-Way comps for the rear powered by Alpine MRV-1002 amp / Dual 10" JL Audio W-6 sub powered by Alpine MRV-1005 amp / Two Alpine CHA-1214 CD Changers
Pics of my TL and Fun/Crazy Pics


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