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Old 03-08-2001, 10:12 PM
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Crusing the city one night loookiung for races. Everything i raced i dusted but i came across a 330 and i flew by him and cut him off. Slowed down abit and flashed my hazards and floored it in 3rd gear. Started taking the lead and all of a sudden he starts gaining on my like i was nothing. Kinda sucks
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Originally posted by Jeffy711:
Crusing the city one night loookiung for races. Everything i raced i dusted but i came across a 330 and i flew by him and cut him off. Slowed down abit and flashed my hazards and floored it in 3rd gear. Started taking the lead and all of a sudden he starts gaining on my like i was nothing. Kinda sucks
Man!!! GET OUT OF HERE!! NOW!!

You should be ashamed of yourself!!!

OUT!! NOW!!!

hehe j/k, yea those are fast, 0-60 in like 6.5 stock...what do you expect, our is 0-60 in 7.2...it is inevitable...
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haha no crap. If I were you I wouldn't have been such a jackass by cutting him off. btw the TL's 3rd gear is an overdrive gear. (not like it would have made a difference anyway, you would have still lost even if it were not)
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This is gotta be a joke, right?
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Originally posted by SinnedTL:
Man!!! GET OUT OF HERE!! NOW!!

You should be ashamed of yourself!!!

OUT!! NOW!!!

hehe j/k, yea those are fast, 0-60 in like 6.5 stock...what do you expect, our is 0-60 in 7.2...it is inevitable...
Actually, I think it's 0-60 in 5.8 for the CI.

If it makes you feel better Jeffy, my friend just wrecked his 330i pushing a corner too hard.

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no shit... you pick some cars that are about the same as TL, and beat them, or those riced out shitty cars, yeah... 330ci? I don't think so... not even TL-S...

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no way u can keep up a 330ci during h-speed race(80-up).cause our 3-5 gears r very su*k.i race one b4 a 328ci(auto).we floor at same time at 80 mph side by side.that BMW was pick-up so fast after 4 gear 110 mph i was two car space behine him.

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Old 03-09-2001, 09:04 AM
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i think you guys would match up pretty good against a auto 330i. my cousin has one, i raced him in the IS300. we were bumper to bumper from 0-90...and ran out of straight roads.

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BMW is fast!!!!! They are engineered to go fast, very fast. TL on the other hand is designed to go "ok" fast and Very very comforable.


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Originally posted by Rice1304:
haha no crap. If I were you I wouldn't have been such a jackass by cutting him off. btw the TL's 3rd gear is an overdrive gear. (not like it would have made a difference anyway, you would have still lost even if it were not)
Nope !!! The TLs 3rd gear is NOT an overdrive gear....the TL will pull like a demon till the end of the 3rd gear, which would go on till about 100mph....

Also, Jeffy711 you sound pretty familiar from a few months back, when you were caught dissing the TL when all of us were pretty sure that you did not own a TL.....are you that person or did I mistake you for someone else ?!!!



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Old 03-09-2001, 10:21 AM
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I just did a search for posts from Jeffy711 and this is one of the instances that I found:
http://www.acura-tl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002369.html

I found quite a few other topics started by him, all of which came across as posts from someone who know nothing about the TL, let alone owning one...

Around the time that "Jeffy711" first surfaced in this forum, another fellow "wyt66" also came up, with the exact same style of writing posts - all of them dissing the TL....we were pretty sure that both these persons were the same...

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Are we talking about the manual or auto 330(c)i ? Every car mags tested the manual model. How much slower is the auto model ?

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Quoted by hunter001,
"Nope !!! The TLs 3rd gear is NOT an overdrive gear"

I agree, 4th and 5th are OverDrive not 3rd.

Jeffy711,
I am all for you tring to get a good kill against a BMW but to cut him off!!!! man your giving our TL's a bad name...atleast get some mods or something!!!

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I feel your pain, man...
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Originally posted by hunter001:
Nope !!! The TLs 3rd gear is NOT an overdrive gear....the TL will pull like a demon till the end of the 3rd gear, which would go on till about 100mph....

Actually the 99's IS.
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If 3rd gear is overdrive in the 99TL, then what is 4th gear? Is it a second overdrive?
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Originally posted by Prez808:
If 3rd gear is overdrive in the 99TL, then what is 4th gear? Is it a second overdrive?
Yes the 3rd gear in the 99 is slightly overdriven (ratio a little less than 1.0)...the 4th gear is a highly overdriven one...




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Leave it for the track guys.

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Originally posted by -Rz-UA5:
Hm......i wonder if TL w/supercharger or nitrous could beat a 330CI???


it would be sad it it couldnt.



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Originally posted by Lexus_IS300:

it would be sad it it couldnt.

it wouldn't be sad if the IS300 with auto tranny plus NOS or SC can't



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that wasnt a flame post. so quit getting all offended. as a moderator of a forum, you should think twice before posting such things. there are turbo'd ISs running 13 flat at only 5-6psi with messed up transmission. i havent seen a TL do that, so please save the flame for elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Lexus_IS300:
that wasnt a flame post. so quit getting all offended. as a moderator of a forum, you should think twice before posting such things. there are turbo'd ISs running 13 flat at only 5-6psi with messed up transmission. i havent seen a TL do that, so please save the flame for elsewhere.

I agree with you but I disagree that your IS can keep up with a Bimmer. Not trying to dis, but I've driven both 328 and 330 Ci and also driven IS300 and yet fairly close the Bimmer would still beat you, IMO. I tried to tell most of you that our TL's are not suited to go up against any German cars in the high end. Remember, the 528i (heavier than 328) will pull away from the TL easily after 80, period.

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acctually me and the other guy are 2 seperate ppl. I don't think i really dissed the TL. Its a tight car of course or else i wouldn't have bought it. but the only problem im having with it now is that to many ppl got it.
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Originally posted by adamyankee:
Actually, I think it's 0-60 in 5.8 for the CI.

If it makes you feel better Jeffy, my friend just wrecked his 330i pushing a corner too hard.

I dunno if it's that fast. I'm almost positive its around 6.7.
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Hm......i wonder if TL w/supercharger or nitrous could beat a 330CI???

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Not even close... Motor Trend reported a 5.8 with the 330, Road and Track did it in 6.2, and my local BMW dealer friends confirmed the 5.8 time with a GTech Pro... it's one fast machine...

I can't imagine what driving the new M3 is like?
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Originally posted by scobib:
Not even close... Motor Trend reported a 5.8 with the 330, Road and Track did it in 6.2, and my local BMW dealer friends confirmed the 5.8 time with a GTech Pro... it's one fast machine...

I can't imagine what driving the new M3 is like?

the reason bmws are so quick to 60 is because of its gearing, it will hit around 65mph before having to shift to third gear, unlike most other cars in its class which are geared for third around 55mph or so.


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Originally posted by Lexus_IS300:

the reason bmws are so quick to 60 is because of its gearing, it will hit around 65mph before having to shift to third gear, unlike most other cars in its class which are geared for third around 55mph or so.


so are you saying that BMW played with the final gear ratio and made the first 2 or maybe 3 gears faster? doesn't that mean the top speed will be sacrificed?
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FYI Lexus_IS300, 2nd gear in my '99 TL ends at 70mph (6100RPM, just before redline)
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FYI Lexus_IS300, 2nd gear in my '99 TL ends at 70mph (6100RPM, just brkkefore redline)
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Originally posted by UCITL:
so are you saying that BMW played with the final gear ratio and made the first 2 or maybe 3 gears faster? doesn't that mean the top speed will be sacrificed?
Yes, in a way. I am too lazy to look up and comfirm this now, but I think the 325/330 5 speed have no overdrive. At the highest gear, your engine is revving at 2400 rpm @ 60mph. The M3 however does have a over drive. I also believe that the IS300 will top out 2nd gear before 60mph. That's why the numbers you get on the magazine is kinda slow. The IS300 is not a slow car after all. It's no bimmer, and indeed a BMW wannabe. But still... Maybe the IS300 will do better with their manual tranny.
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BMW gear ratios:

The manual 330 and 530 gear ratios are the same, while there is a slight difference in the 330/530 auto gear ratios. Here they are:

Gear--------Manual-----330Auto----530Auto
1st---------4.21--------3.67-------3.42
2nd---------2.49--------2.00-------2.22
3rd---------1.66--------1.41-------1.60
4th---------1.24--------1.00-------1.00
5th---------1.00--------0.74-------0.75
Reverse-----3.85--------4.10-------3.03
Final-------2.93--------3.46-------3.46

AS we can see, there is no over-drive gear for the BMW manual...

Also, the IS300 has the following gear ratios:

Gear------ratio
1st-------3.357
2nd-------2.180
3rd-------1.424
4th-------1.00
5th-------0.753
Final-------3.909

No prizes for guessing who the IS300 gear ratios are modelled on...


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Originally posted by SL1200MK4:
Yes, in a way. I am too lazy to look up and comfirm this now, but I think the 325/330 5 speed have no overdrive. At the highest gear, your engine is revving at 2400 rpm @ 60mph. The M3 however does have a over drive. I also believe that the IS300 will top out 2nd gear before 60mph. That's why the numbers you get on the magazine is kinda slow. The IS300 is not a slow car after all. It's no bimmer, and indeed a BMW wannabe. But still... Maybe the IS300 will do better with their manual tranny.
bmw wannabe? lol.


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