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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:51 AM
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Bridgestone and Firestone tires' price will go up starting 2005 by 5-10%


http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/041202-1.htm
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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their tires suck and they suck.

bridgestone/firestone owns the world's largest rubber farm, 1 million acre plantation in africa, where they use government soldiers(they pretty much own the monrovian government) to force local workers to make (shitty)tires for approximatly $3.00 a day

this is not a slam on sam, its just a FYI
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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Agreed. I wouldn't take them if they were gicing them away.




Originally Posted by mech
their tires suck and they suck.

bridgestone/firestone owns the world's largest rubber farm, 1 million acre plantation in africa, where they use government soldiers(they pretty much own the monrovian government) to force local workers to make (shitty)tires for approximatly $3.00 a day

this is not a slam on sam, its just a FYI
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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I don't buy their tires anyway. But thanks for the heads up.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mech
their tires suck and they suck.

bridgestone/firestone owns the world's largest rubber farm, 1 million acre plantation in africa, where they use government soldiers(they pretty much own the monrovian government) to force local workers to make (shitty)tires for approximatly $3.00 a day

this is not a slam on sam, its just a FYI
for those top in the line summer tires they are great, make sure they are made in Japan, quality is gd

but their all season...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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i dont understand why alot of people do not like the all seasons...i think they are decent tires...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by giovanni
i dont understand why alot of people do not like the all seasons...i think they are decent tires...
besides the new turenza LS-V, the rest of their all season are crappy as hell

the RE92, low treadwear, poor traction in wet and snow, even tire rack not recommneded in snow

EL42, standard on 2004 TL and 2003 G35, even worse than RE92 except the treadwear is better, but no grip in wet and snow, that's y the 05 TL changed to MXM4 instead

Turenza LS-V is a grand touring tire, so it's just for daily driving, not for performance thou, however it performs better than the MXV4

so ONLY the TOP of the line are gd, the rest are
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by giovanni
i dont understand why alot of people do not like the all seasons...i think they are decent tires...
cause they suck. get a dedicated summer and a dedicated winter and see how bad they suck
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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I love my NITTO 555's. So much damned grip...and MADE IN JAPAN!
Highly recommned these tires.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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I'm gettin' Toyos or Yokos in the Spring. Just heard very good things about 'em, so I'll give 'em a shot, that's all. Have Nokians for winter.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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I got Kumho ECSTA 712 Supra for summer and Kumho I'ZEN WIS KW19 for Winter.Love them grip to death and worth the prices.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
I'm gettin' Toyos or Yokos in the Spring. Just heard very good things about 'em, so I'll give 'em a shot, that's all. Have Nokians for winter.
pick the yokos V4S, they are not as sticky as Sumitmoto but last longer with a decent grip
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by giovanni
i dont understand why alot of people do not like the all seasons...i think they are decent tires...
Yup, there's nothing like a dedicated winter tire. I realized that no matter what all-season you get, it won't even compare to the crappiest winter tire in the snow. Tire rack claims the same thing.

I heard that the Goodyear RS-A's are pretty bad too, plus they have a lower speed rating then stock, and the sidewalls are quite soft, which reduces the handling ability.

All in all, if you have the extra money, definitely buy a summer tire for the three seasons, and a winter tire for winter.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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It depends on how severe the winter can get. In the West Coast such as Vancouver where there is at most two to three snow falls (a couple of cm at most) per winter, it does not justify buying an extra set of winter tires. Driving winter tires on dry roads comes with a huge loss in performance, not to mention more tire noise, more tire wear, and decreased fuel economy. All-seasons are the best choice for our driving condition.

Since I go skiing during the winter, I have no choice but to put on snow tires. But believe me, everyday when I was driving on dry road with the snow tires, I wish I had never put them on.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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It depends on how severe the winter can get. In the West Coast such as Vancouver where there is at most two to three snow falls (a couple of cm at most) per winter, it does not justify buying an extra set of winter tires. Driving winter tires on dry roads comes with a huge loss in performance, not to mention more tire noise, more tire wear, and decreased fuel economy. All-seasons are the best choice for our driving condition.

Since I go skiing during the winter, I have no choice but to put on snow tires. But believe me, everyday when I was driving on dry road with the snow tires, I wish I had never put them on.
I don't know which tires you're driving on, but I love the Dunlop Winter Sport M3's. They perform a lot better on dry pavement than a lot of all-seasons do. Personally, ya I don't like driving them on dry pavement, but only because I know that tread will wear a hell of a lot quicker. In respect to road noise and gas mileage, they are wayyyyy better than my summer tires for road noise, and my gas mileage hasn't decreased at all. In fact, I've gotten one of my best tanks about a week ago. I did 85% highway and 15% city, and I got 28 MPG. I was pretty happy with these numbers, seeing as I drove the car aggressively during my 15% city driving.

Anyways, I could justify putting winter tires on since Toronto does get pounded during the winter months. Snow doesn't usually fall until late, but January-March is usually murder for snow.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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I'm riding on 225/50/17 Pirelli Snowsport 210 snow tires right now. I don't think there is any all-season tire that is up to the performance level of the 18" Pilot Sport that I'm using for the summer. Now I think you know what I mean by me saying "wishing I had never put them on".
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sc354
Yup, there's nothing like a dedicated winter tire. I realized that no matter what all-season you get, it won't even compare to the crappiest winter tire in the snow. Tire rack claims the same thing.

I heard that the Goodyear RS-A's are pretty bad too, plus they have a lower speed rating then stock, and the sidewalls are quite soft, which reduces the handling ability.

All in all, if you have the extra money, definitely buy a summer tire for the three seasons, and a winter tire for winter.
RS-A is better than the MXM4 at least, but they are better with RWD cars as they are standard on Crown Vic and BMW 330i

they have a gd grip even in wet, an average tire that doesn't shine in any catergory but not the worst
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