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Old 02-29-2008, 02:22 PM
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Im in dire need of some headlight bulbs too, thats why im replying on this post to see how the genesis bulbs work out! SO i cant wait dnd!!
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I will take the pics tommorow PROMISE. IF I make it back to tampa tommorow night I will upload.
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remember- intial light output is dimmer than it will be after break in time on the lights
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It is my opinion- based on watching oncoming cars and cars approaching from behind with various color headlights from muddy brown to basic white, blues and extreme purple...!
Our blue tint from either the 5000 or 6000 is not abusive to the eyes of oncoming drivers.
They may be surprised by the intensity- and think the high beams must be on, but the color itself is pretty gentle. Walk down the street from your car at night and check it out. Even stock they have blue tint.
I still want some pinpoint beams that project 1/4 mile forward, and hide in the lower grill
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here are some pics. Just took a couple to show the differ. The driver side is still stock. I will have better pics after I wash the car and get the LED signals installed. Also installed LED high beams. TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY for those




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Need pics of the ground ahead of you to see what the output is like

LED hi beams- what where you thinking? I bought cheapie hi beams and they are garbage - silverstars are going to replace then soon
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LED highbeams was going to be just a test but wow they just suck.
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They look pretty lame. LED is a buzzword. There could be some nice ones soon, but not these.
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LED's They make nice marker lights and turn signals, things that need to be seen-
But not so good for seeing things~
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There is no such thing as an LED high beam. Only the newest leds are starting to get bright enough that some concept cars are using them for the headlights but those configurations use a matrix of them with reflectors and optical lenses.
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LED do look badass at night but just totally useless. I got my new housing on and got both sides done with LED turn signals....

Will post pics at night showing the lights
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Question Bummed out lighting issue.

OK so today was a nice enough day to tear into my head light problem (right head light just flickers and does not fully charge up).

OK it was suggested that I pop out the good bulb and and swap out the bad one. So I take the drivers side out (good one) and swap it with the passenger side (bad one) no change in the lighting.
I left the bulbs as they were and then decided to swap the ballast's well that mad no change either, so now I am totally at a lose as to why my one head light (passenger side) will not fully charge.

I suspect that there is a grounding issue, but have no idea where to even look.
all the wiring around the bulbs, ballast, housing look fine no blackness or abnormal looking wear and tear.

On top of all of this I noticed the my high beams had a slight glow about the element when I turn on the head lights.

Please your help on this is appreciated, before I go off throwing money at it.

thanks in advance.

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thought that I should add that I put everything back the way it was when I started this adventure.
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Originally Posted by dnd2984
LED do look badass at night but just totally useless. I got my new housing on and got both sides done with LED turn signals....

Will post pics at night showing the lights
awww man. i just bought leds for my fogs.
u serious bout them not being that bright?
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led does not light up anything-
dont you have one of those new flashlights that give off a basic light- not a spot beam like the old days? thats LED at work
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Originally Posted by johnnir3volution
awww man. i just bought leds for my fogs.
u serious bout them not being that bright?
lol bro, LEDs are bright if you are looking direcly at them. If you want them to actually light up the road, you can forget about it lol. They are best used on the interior or turning signals, maybe break lights too.
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Originally Posted by johnnir3volution
awww man. i just bought leds for my fogs.
u serious bout them not being that bright?

Have you seen those LA gear shoes the kids wear. Yea those produce a better glare.
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might I had the Genesis bulbs look great at night. I have total of 4 hours of driving on the bulbs already. For $100 shipped it cant be passed up guys.
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might I add the Genesis bulbs look great at night. I have total of 4 hours of driving on the bulbs already. For $100 shipped it cant be passed up guys.
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Originally Posted by Bone Down
OK so today was a nice enough day to tear into my head light problem (right head light just flickers and does not fully charge up).

OK it was suggested that I pop out the good bulb and and swap out the bad one. So I take the drivers side out (good one) and swap it with the passenger side (bad one) no change in the lighting.
I left the bulbs as they were and then decided to swap the ballast's well that mad no change either, so now I am totally at a lose as to why my one head light (passenger side) will not fully charge.

I suspect that there is a grounding issue, but have no idea where to even look.
all the wiring around the bulbs, ballast, housing look fine no blackness or abnormal looking wear and tear.

On top of all of this I noticed the my high beams had a slight glow about the element when I turn on the head lights.

Please your help on this is appreciated, before I go off throwing money at it.

thanks in advance.

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bad ballast.
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Originally Posted by bibledriver
bad ballast.
is the ballast located behind the bulb inside the black plastic cover?

If so it worked fine when I switched them from one side to the other (good light bulb and ballast to pass. side and they would not work either, but bad bulb and ballast swapped from pass. side to driver side and they worked just fine.

this is where I am confused and of course I am new to TL's and HID's as well.
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You are talking about the igniter. The ballast is attached to the housing and it is underneath in the middle. small metal box dimensions maybe 2.5"x3.5"x.75"
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Ballast is what supplies the high voltage to your bulbs. Search the forum and you will find plenty of info, surely.
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Originally Posted by bibledriver
Ballast is what supplies the high voltage to your bulbs. Search the forum and you will find plenty of info, surely.
Thanks for the support... it turns out that the ballast is not a fun change... time to find an affordable ballast and make the change.
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this one too
Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
Hope this helps you guys, I'll be using these DIY's myself on wednesday to replace my housings that got moisture inside them. The dealer quoted 1 1/2 hours to remove the bumper alone! Looks like you can do it in 15mins tops. They are scam artists as I don't expect to spend more than 2hours total on this project.
Bumper Removal:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/184466/18

https://acurazine.com/forums/show...06&page=3&pp=25

Diagram which isn't very clear:
these may help. Never messed with it on the TL. I know I can see the ballast, but if it is screwed in you would have to remove the HL housings likely, which equates to bumper removal (sounds harder than it is).
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I need to diagnose a problem in one of my lights...comes on, flickers, then goes out....to do so, I have to first try a different bulb...and that means bumper removal...I've searched and see a thread on service manuals for a Gen-3, but I need for a 2000 TL...Can anyone attach or send the diagrams on bumper removal for a Gen 2? I can follow instructions ok when I see a picture, but am not to inuitive to just figure out where all the clips are....Thanks very much
I don't believe you have to remove the bumper just to change bulbs. But you do need to remove the bumper in order to remove the headlights and gain access to your ballast and igniter. The bulb installation instructions should be in your user's manual. Also, here is a DIY that may help you:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...89&postcount=2
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LIGHTS OFF


LIGHTS ON AFTER 2 Minutes of Warm up.
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Is that the 5ks? because my 6s look Wwaay BLUER than that.
Whatever you have is what those wanting white light should get!
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Cameras also have a way of doing white balance on their own.
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the camera makes it look a lot whiter than it is. But no they are pretty blue. I will try to get better pics tommorow night
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Question I would like your opinions on this kit!

I would like to upgrade to 6000k bulbs and I need to replace a ballast so I am thinking that i should upgrade in pairs while I am at it.

I am also looking into upgrading to 9011's for the high beams as well since one of the 9005's is burned out as well.

link to item on ebay (claims it to be a german kit, but I am totally new to hid lighting and I don't want to make a bad purchase).
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You don't need to replace the working ballast, just find a cheap OEM replacement on ebay or the black market.
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Originally Posted by AZP-TL
You don't need to replace the working ballast, just find a cheap OEM replacement on ebay or the black market.
cheapest I have found so far is for an 02' ballast 178 + shipping that is just one ballast.

for $200..00 I can get 2 ballast and 2 bulbs.
so far cheapest I have found 2 bulbs is $40.00 + shipping.
6's? I have to tear apart the car to replace the parts anyways, why not do both.

will 2002 ballasts work? I see them listed 99-01 and 02-04, is there a difference between them?
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I am not certain on ballast part #'s off hand, but since the headlight housing is different it may not "bolt up" the same, so go for the right year group.
DON'T buy cheap bulbs. You will only spend more in the long run. Here people have liked the KAIXEN (myself included - pics on pg.2 I think, and then the original poster bought some that this thread is about and seems to like them.).
Just replace the bad ballast unless you have the cash to get both of good quality.
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Originally Posted by bibledriver
I am not certain on ballast part #'s off hand, but since the headlight housing is different it may not "bolt up" the same, so go for the right year group.
DON'T buy cheap bulbs. You will only spend more in the long run. Here people have liked the KAIXEN (myself included - pics on pg.2 I think, and then the original poster bought some that this thread is about and seems to like them.).
Just replace the bad ballast unless you have the cash to get both of good quality.
thanks, but do you think that kit is of any good quality or not?

kaixen sound great too, but at $150 a pair that is tough to swallow atm going through a divorce and all money is tight.

attorney's are not cheap.
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cheap or used bulbs from an unknown source are bad news.
100 bucks for the pair is a great price for good lights
Use whatever in the hibeam since they are not on by themself- they add to the low beam- but not much
They are regular powered- low output, and the lows are HID special expensive units.
If you dont replace in pairs expect a huge differance in light output

Divorce is expensive but worth it IMO
The Black Market Private Sales section of azine will yield ballast- or call the local auto recycler/junkyard- they have a hotline system and if it exist in america- they will get it for you
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Honestly For $100 for my bulbs is a great deal. After about 15 hours they look alot better.
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So D2C or D2R has a better output? That part confused me.
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actually the black paint on the D2C bulbs is really a ceramic coating that blocks light emissions at certain angles to prevent glare due to the high lumen output of the bulb. This is a property of the D2R bulbs that are made to fit certain housings. What a lot of Ebayers do is take D2S bulbs and paint a black ceramic stripe where it would normally be on the D2R bulb and cut an extra groove in the base so that it will fit the D2R housing. There is no such thing as a D2C bulb, that was made up by less than honest ebayers passing modified D2S bulbs off as D2R. that paint in no way increases output, in fact, it does the opposite.
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JUST TO CLARIFY: the D2C do NOT have the ceramic paint. The D2R do. D2S has an extra notch, so it fits into D2R housings. It is the D2R that won't fit into D2S housings. C is probably just a way of saying "compatible" no matter if you have R or C. It is not an E-Bay ploy.
As far as light output, I agree, the D2R is less due to ceramic paint.
D2C will have better output.

Also I notice with my new bulbs (Kaixen with diamond technology) that the capsule does not glow red. Maybe due to better crystal manufacture and hence a bit more pricey, but without the crystal becoming somewhat opaque due to turning red hot, less light output is blocked from the source.

Bonedown, if you are strapped for cash, replace the bad ballast, put a good pair of HID's on you wishlist; after all, they are a very easy R&R part. 1 hr if you are laid back. Focus on the problem now, and the mod. later.


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