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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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G 35 Sedan handling

I drove 2005 Infiniti G35 auto Sedan, 280HP. Perfect car, no questions about the handling, and power, but I love my TL-S. What I wanted to ask, how can I match my 2003 TL-S to match the handling, without loosing ride quality, don’t want to be like those dudes on Jet Skies. I wanted good handling without bumpy ride. What is the most cost effective way and any links please, thanks a lot people.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Tein Ss, Strut Brace, Umm Thats All That Came To Mind At The Moment..
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Are u talking about TEIN coilovers - SS Super Street Coilovers?

Can I get some links please? What is Strut Brace? And cost effective way please.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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It'll be nearly impossible to match the handling....rear v. front wheel drive...
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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TLS vs G35 Handling

I own an 02 TLS. A buddy owns an 03 G35 without the handling package.

We traded cars for a few hours and went for a ride. Under hard acceleration, the G35 drifted outside it's track. I suspect it was due to torque oversteer. Several times during the ride, under hard acceleration I found myself entering the center line and had to correct the steering. It is alarming during turns.

My TLS's handling has none of those characteristics. In fact, steering and tracking is rock solid neutral providing a confident driving experience.

My TLS handles like a formula 1 car while the G35 handles more like a Detroit muscle car. I'll take smooth rocket speed over torque anyday.

A few months later, my buddy sideswiped another car on the freeway. I wonder if torque pulling had anything to do with it?
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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I have Neuspeed Strut Bar and Comptech Sway. My TLP feels tighter the first turn after I installed the rear sway. People say Strut Bar does not make any difference but I can notice the car much tighter up front after I installed Neuspeed.
There is a CL member has H&R spring and Bilstein shock on his type S. Ride quality is similiar to type S stock but better handling.
I will find out this weekend when I try to install H&R 50103 and Bilstein on my TLP
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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i suggest koni yellows, HR oe srpings, and comptech sways....best combo...imo
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Here is the link, PM this member. I also heard good things about Bilstein and H&R combo from the Lexus forum.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168436
BTW, Bilstein has a lifetime warranty. Both H&R and Bilstein products are made in German and not outsourced manufacturing to China (not yet)
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rcmcfe
It'll be nearly impossible to match the handling....rear v. front wheel drive...
My thoughts exactly...
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Sway bars are the only mod that will make a dramatic difference in handling, but with no penalty in ride harshness. They are the best bang for the buck suspension upgrade.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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If sway bars, what would be good ones to get $ and how to install them.

Thanks for all your help.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Hyde
Sway bars are the only mod that will make a dramatic difference in handling, but with no penalty in ride harshness. They are the best bang for the buck suspension upgrade.
I agree 100%, however, to really take advantage of your sways you need a drop and that would sacrifice the ride quality. Thus, there is no point in getting sways if you do not drop your TL. Our TL's all ready come with a very nice strut bar, and unless you are very serious about the handling, the purchase of an aftermarket strut would mostly be a vain attempt to improve handling. Guys correct me if I'm wrong??? A TL will never have the agility of a G35 coupe, especially without sacrificing ride quality.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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I am talking about G35 Sedan not coupe!!!!!!
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TunedTL
Here is the link, PM this member. I also heard good things about Bilstein and H&R combo from the Lexus forum.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168436
BTW, Bilstein has a lifetime warranty. Both H&R and Bilstein products are made in German and not outsourced manufacturing to China (not yet)
Is that possible to put Bilstein shocks(for 01 CL) on a 02 03 TL?
do they fit each other?
But I got a message from allshocks.com
It says that the shocks for the CL and TL are not interchangeable, and
Bilstein does not currently make any shock for the 2002 Acura TL.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Thus, there is no point in getting sways if you do not drop your TL.
Not true at all. The sways do a nice job on their own of improving the handling on our cars. I did them before I ever touched the Comptech springs, or Teins. They are definitely a worthwhile mod, stock suspension, or not.


Originally Posted by TLsu
Our TL's all ready come with a very nice strut bar, and unless you are very serious about the handling, the purchase of an aftermarket strut would mostly be a vain attempt to improve handling. Guys correct me if I'm wrong???
Aftermarket struts are 99% cosmetics, and 1% improved handling. If you are dropped then its maybe 97% looks, and 3% handling.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by InspireUA5
Is that possible to put Bilstein shocks(for 01 CL) on a 02 03 TL?
do they fit each other?
But I got a message from allshocks.com
It says that the shocks for the CL and TL are not interchangeable, and
Bilstein does not currently make any shock for the 2002 Acura TL.
I believe they are the same part #, Bilstein's web lists them as accord v6, but fits Tl, Cl. see this link for models and years.
Ebay Link
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE RUNNER

My TLS handles like a formula 1 car
haha ya right....unless you extended your wheels a foot outside the car - I really doubt it.

Originally Posted by TunedTL
Here is the link, PM this member. I also heard good things about Bilstein and H&R combo from the Lexus forum.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168436
BTW, Bilstein has a lifetime warranty. Both H&R and Bilstein products are made in German and not outsourced manufacturing to China (not yet)
what model fits our cars? I am going to need some new struts soon, so these may be in line.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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ou sig, you can pm NiteQwill to double check but here is what he posted about part #, that is the same I got.

"Slimey: The Bilstein Sports are made to fit the 98-02 Accord V6. Don't get the 4cyl version (I believe there is a check digit added to the end of the part number) as they may blow due to different specs for gas compression and rebound.

Here are the Part Numbers:
Front: BE5-6580-H0
Back: BE5-6581-H0"
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TunedTL
ou sig, you can pm NiteQwill to double check but here is what he posted about part #, that is the same I got.

"Slimey: The Bilstein Sports are made to fit the 98-02 Accord V6. Don't get the 4cyl version (I believe there is a check digit added to the end of the part number) as they may blow due to different specs for gas compression and rebound.

Here are the Part Numbers:
Front: BE5-6580-H0
Back: BE5-6581-H0"
thanks much
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AKYPA
I am talking about G35 Sedan not coupe!!!!!!
My bad. Either way though.
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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I also own a 2003 TL-S and my girlfriend owns a 2003 G35 coupe.

I've driven both for quite some time and on occasion have taken both on to the Pomona track to mess around with.

Just a few things really.

I don't know what suspension package you have but my TL-S does not handle like a formula 1 car. I have a 1994 RX-7 Twin turbo as well (and it has a complete aftermarket suspensions and engine setup) and I'm going to be bold and say even that car doesn't handle like a formula 1 car.

As for the Torque oversteer, I never really had any issues with the g35 and oversteer. Remember that in turning the goal is: to draw the perfect line, breaking prior to the turn, entering at the fastest speed your car can handle, and then accelerating about halfway through the turn (i would suggest even later than that about 70% into the turn). If you gun the acceleration entering and during the turn.. well duh.. that'll make any car lose control. Try it in our TL-S and you'll see what I mean.

As for making a TL handle like a G35 and still maintain the comfort ride... I don't think it's possible even with aftermarket suspension set ups. It's just one of those advantages a RWD has over a FWD.

But I love my TL-S over the G35. Why? Because its my car. LoL. Besides, a TL isn't really a sports car, its a luxary sedan. A TL-S is a step up and it's a Sporty Luxury Sedan, but even then it's not a true Sports car. I have an RX-7 for the days when I feel like being sporty, and the TL-S for days when I want to cruise in luxury.

Start with a Sway bar and see how you like it.

I have koni adjustables and I like them because I can adjust the ride quality/handling in an instant.

If you decide in the future that you want a true sports car with superb handling, and you want to keep with the Acura name brand, go for the NSX. Although the RX-7 Twin Turbo out classed the NSX in almost every category.

Even still, if I ever get the cash to get an NSX, I'm definitely gonna get one.

Originally Posted by BLADE RUNNER
I own an 02 TLS. A buddy owns an 03 G35 without the handling package.

We traded cars for a few hours and went for a ride. Under hard acceleration, the G35 drifted outside it's track. I suspect it was due to torque oversteer. Several times during the ride, under hard acceleration I found myself entering the center line and had to correct the steering. It is alarming during turns.

My TLS's handling has none of those characteristics. In fact, steering and tracking is rock solid neutral providing a confident driving experience.

My TLS handles like a formula 1 car while the G35 handles more like a Detroit muscle car. I'll take smooth rocket speed over torque anyday.

A few months later, my buddy sideswiped another car on the freeway. I wonder if torque pulling had anything to do with it?
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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O/T...post belongs in Car Talk.
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