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Old 11-17-2004, 03:59 PM
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Friend wants to race me in his porsche?

Ok i know i will loose..and thats what he is also thinking..But im just wondering by how much. He wants to race me once i am done my engine mods(intake, headers, pully, exhaust). I will probally do it just so he gets off my back, and just to humor him. Its a 1978 928 Euro...a Buetiful car..absolutely perfect condition..all original german parts...Huge V8..thing weighs next to nothing..custom porsche paint..but yeah..im just getting an idea...thanks
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Weighs next to nothing? According to this page, it weighs (stock, at least) around 40 lbs. less than your 1999 TL (again, using stock numbers). Your TL should also have a little more HP than his. Of course, he's got a good bit more torque than you. (This is all based on stock numbers.)

Obviously the Porsche will be faster (sports cars usually win every time vs. sedans), but I personally don't think it will be by much. But then again, I might be totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by cparris
URL(sports cars usually win every time vs. sedans), .
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Old 11-17-2004, 04:48 PM
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hmm yes i see...but his car is a Euro...a pure german car and that is pulling round 250..yeah its barley legal it sucks so much gas when u floor it. We rate how fast we go by how fast the gas tack empties..ha...but ya never know till i do race him..but thanks for the info tho
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I meant real sports cars, not crap like V6 mustangs, etc. Nor was I referring to some little crap Porsche that's not running correctly.

Basically, real sports cars are designed to go fast. Sedans typically are not.
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Since this should just be a straight run from stop, I think you can hang with all those mods (and possbily beat him) becuase if you think about it... Headers:+25whp, Pulley:+4-5whp, Intake:+3-4whp, Exhaust:+1-2whp. That puts you well into the Type-S speed if not slightly faster. Just need to get a good launch

His car is ~40 pounds lighter as someone said, so weight is not exactly a factor. Even the difference in you two's body weight can be greater than that.

Okay, I am only judging from stats. 0-60 in 7.0 sec is a tad bit faster than a stock 99 TL, so is the 15.6s 1/4 mile.

Has he done any mods to his porsche?
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i have won over regular non-typeS porsche boxter, but the Euro with 250hp could give you a nice run though, I think in a long race, where you can get over 120mph+ you will gain enough to beat him. I think its possible.
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nah his car is a pure classic stright from germany...no mods...even the radio and all the dials are in german....and its all KMH..haha good way out of a speeding ticket here in the states..but yeah hes saying he will beat me over 140..but i dont know
Old 11-17-2004, 06:18 PM
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racing...nah

i am too old for that LOL~
Old 11-17-2004, 08:09 PM
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0-to-60 on your buddy's car in America is 7.0 seconds, just to let you know. I highly doubt the 1978 928 was different in Europe than the United States. Should be a good race, I think you have a good chance at winning. Remember, the fastest cars in 1978 are nowhere near the fastest cars today!
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Originally Posted by subtledreamer
Since this should just be a straight run from stop, I think you can hang with all those mods (and possbily beat him) becuase if you think about it... Headers:+25whp, Pulley:+4-5whp, Intake:+3-4whp, Exhaust:+1-2whp. That puts you well into the Type-S speed if not slightly faster. Just need to get a good launch

His car is ~40 pounds lighter as someone said, so weight is not exactly a factor. Even the difference in you two's body weight can be greater than that.

Okay, I am only judging from stats. 0-60 in 7.0 sec is a tad bit faster than a stock 99 TL, so is the 15.6s 1/4 mile.

Has he done any mods to his porsche?
You know you can't just add mods together like that, right?

These numbers aren't accurate, I'm just making them up, but if you're pushing 225hp @ 5500rpms at the crank and if headers give you +25hp @ 6500rpms at the crank (saying at the crank to make this a more simple calculation), you can't say your peak horsepower is 250hp. What you can say is if you're pushing peak horsepower (225 crank hp) @ 5500rpms and headers give you +10hp at 5500rpms then your peak horsepower is 235hp. If the headers give you +25hp at the crank and you're putting out only 190hp @ 6500rpms then you've only got 215hp @ 6500rpms.

Might just be you were generalizing, but I figured I'd comment.

Anyways, it sounds like the Porsche is pretty close to the TL-P... Will be an interesting race! Make sure you post your results
Old 11-17-2004, 09:01 PM
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1970's technology is so outdated. Even the muscle cars of the times are now obsolete, unless modded.

Is your car a Type-S? If so, and with those mods you mentioned, you will probably pull on him.
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Originally Posted by LiQiCE
You know you can't just add mods together like that, right?

These numbers aren't accurate, I'm just making them up, but if you're pushing 225hp @ 5500rpms at the crank and if headers give you +25hp @ 6500rpms at the crank (saying at the crank to make this a more simple calculation), you can't say your peak horsepower is 250hp. What you can say is if you're pushing peak horsepower (225 crank hp) @ 5500rpms and headers give you +10hp at 5500rpms then your peak horsepower is 235hp. If the headers give you +25hp at the crank and you're putting out only 190hp @ 6500rpms then you've only got 215hp @ 6500rpms.

Might just be you were generalizing, but I figured I'd comment.

Anyways, it sounds like the Porsche is pretty close to the TL-P... Will be an interesting race! Make sure you post your results
Well i did say im only judging from the given stats. i know near nothing about those classic german cars~
the best way to find out is... to race and see for yourself!
just keep it safe and be sure to tell us the results
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stats on paper is nth

show us the real results

his car is too old, maybe on a decline, so you pretty gd have a chance, as long as don't go too fast and over 120mph
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