01tl4tl

see vendor MrHeelToe in the Off Topic Sponsored Sales area
or www.heeltoeauto.com
RacingBrake rotors with Hawk HP+ pads
solid slotted heat treated stable hi tech rotors
www.racingbrake.com for tech info

bibledriver

Yeah, I will have to check his sites.
I have/hate the R1 concepts. I put the rears on first and they were warped right off the bat. Fronts are not as bad. I emailed them, and they never got back to me, to exchange the rears.
They look ok but boy would i love a BBK.

Riq

I'm so sick of the oem's, I'm going for the RB+Hawks. If I buy them from heeltoe, does anyone know of a reputable intaller in SF Bay Area. I can go to my Acura dealer who does do a great job on the services (Oakland Acura) but I know they're going to charge me thru the roof and may not even intall unless it's bought from them. Comments, suggestions, support, opinions welcome.
Riq

wilp99

i just installed some drilled/slotted rotors and pads from smokin_hot_deals562, and i love them. no squeaks, no problems as of yet @ 200 miles. stop on a dime.

and these are installed on the wrong side (backwards).

01tl4tl

Riq

Any import car repair shop can do a good job for you- I would never let the dealer touch my car
Look in the regular phone book yellow pages in automobile repairing- several will have a pic of an Acura or say Acura in the list of what they work on
There are several honda shops in berkely and oakland right there on the border of town- or ask the guys at parts store where to go

These brakes really are standard disc except the rears contain a mini set of drum brakes for the parking brake.
Ask if they know about that- if not- go to another shop who really has worked on TLs
You will want to have a brake fluid flush done at the same time- do it every year as well

Get posting and get 30 to your name- then PM me for special info before you order

01tl4tl

Wilp99

Slotted rotors must be installed in the direction the maker intended
Some makers run the slots forward, others to the rear- the bag or rotor should be marked with direction of rotation
Dont run them opposite direction!!- and 200 miles they are not even close to being broken in and properly bedded yet

wilp99

thanks for the info.

Riq

01tl4tl thanks much for the advice, I've go t a ways to go to hit 30 but really need the brakes now, car's wobbling like jello! From what I've read so far it seems RB+Hawks are tried and tested to be one of the best combinations. I'm only changing the fronts. I have no issue with the rears.

Reason why I asked for recommendation is you hear a lot about botched up jobs from repair shops and I'm sure we have as many irreputable dealers as well but I was looking for a forum members personal experience with a repair shop in the East Bay.

Oakland Acura really looks after my car, infact one of the guys there advised a while back that I should look at after market for brakes but I never really thought of doing other than EOM. Since I joined this forum (133, 0000 miles too late!) I'm redeemed by the wealth of knowledge.

01tl4tl

Riq
spend 10 minutes making post to threads- then PM me before you order

Riq

01TL4TL,
I'm on it, posting away.

I have a few questions:

Is it ok to only change out the fronts and not the rear?
In which direction should these rotors be installed?
How many miles should the break in period be?
Are there any driving guidelines for the break in?

Reason I ask is I'll be taking a long trip in about two weeks (2000+ miles). I want to be sure I do the break in right. I want to be able to set these brakes right and I also want to test the repair shop mechanics out and see if they know what they're doing before I had over the keys. Last thing I want is a brake down (pardon the pun) on my trip.

Thanks
Riq

01tl4tl

As long as the rears are fine its not an issue
I run NAPA rear rotors with Hawk pads as the rears only do 30 percent of the braking force
The RB rotors are ready to go out of the box with a double cross-hatch cut surface for immediate bite!
The Hawk pads have a procedure to seat/bed them properly- takes 30 minutes and then ready for the mountains
PM me for better directions than included with the pads!

01tl4tl

The RacingBrake rotors have an arrow cast into the hub so they go on the right way
This is another way to tell quality- the rotors have different castings internally with the cooling vanes, so they stamp the casting itself with a directional arrow

Some brands come in a bag with a sticker placed on the bag- those types generally were blanks that got customized- not designed for the exterior slots/cooling vents

dnd2984

iTrader: (6)

any updates??? JMAL how are you likin yours

Jove

I have a 06 tl manual with the brembo brakes.. does anyone know where to get drilled and slotted rotors for front and back???

01tl4tl

The only place making good 1 piece rotors for the 6mt brembo cars is Rotora- see vendor excelerate in the Off Topic Sponsored Sales area
For 2 piece super hi tech rotors for 6mt brembo see MrHeelToe in the same section

In general- drilled rotors are not for our cars- too many cheap or bad jobs result in failure of the rotor- go with good quality slotted rotors for TLs and rockin pads

JMAL

so far so good. i have had no issues. they are completely silent and very low dust. they brake much better then OEM. my zinc coating is still fine too all the coated areas are still rust free even thru all this rain in the northeast. hopefully they hold up as well as they have for a long time. i know people that have had these rotors for years with not problems. even if they last more then 10k its still much better and much cheaper then getting OEM from the dealer. to me, that was worth just trying them just to see.

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

ROTORA offers combo (drilled and slotted) or slotted discs for the Acura TL with Brembos.

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/rotora-slotted-drilled-slotted-rotors-special-cl-tl-tsx-324531/

gc86

Im using R1Concept slotted/drilled rotors front and rear with Satisfied Brake Pads Pro Ceramic with no noise or problems so far after 1000~ miles. And I have them installed facing the other direction.

JMAL

Update:

It still working great. very happy.

01tl4tl

gc

Did you verify yours are installed per the makers intent- the slots may be ~backwards~ on some by design
Run them their specified direction for best results and life

gc86

I got the R1 Concept slotted/drilled all around with Pro Ceramic pads and I broke them in properly. Im starting to get a little vibration and steering wheel shimmy during braking. I think its because I abused them so much after break in. Too many 100+ mph stops.

01tl4tl

Try deglazing them
hard use without proper cool-down will screw up the friction contact area
warm them up with some 60-40 slow downs
then get them hot with some 70+ to 30-40
that usually cleans them off and gets rid of vibrations

01tl4tl

cg
did you put the rotors on in the indicated direction- that could be your problem

gc86

I put them on in this direction, http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?i...a030041de7.jpg

That's the driver side front wheel.

01tl4tl

Before- I thought you said you had installed them backwards- as in opposite direction of the intention of the maker.
Are they installed with the arrow pointing forward- usually found on edge of center hub with a directional arrow -----> Front

Willie3.5

I hear impressive opinions about EBC greenstuff pads, but what bout EBC rotors? I don't hear much about them.

01tl4tl

Go with Rotora or Racingbrake from our acurazine sponsoring vendors
Both offer hi quality known good parts
The new RacingBrake ET series pads are really nice, and the Hawk HPS work quite well too
I have run both on this TL to compare

Brent1202

i have been running irotors and green stuff for 4000 miles. love em so far. very little dust. tad noisy but a huge difference from oem. they stop on a dime as well. just my

CAB NY

which one between the R1concept or Raceconcept ?

JMAL

its been about 10k since i put them in.

no warping or shimmy at all
still brakes great even more so with the fluid change (recommended for everyone)
still very low dust w/satisfied pro ceramics

the zinc coating is starting to wear off and now the non contact areas are rusting, oh well.

so far , not regrets.

01tl4tl

Any rotor will get rust in non contact areas- its all just paint in the end
What many of us do is duplicolor caliper paint kit $10 and use some on the rotors exposed aprts. Make it all nice and black- mini brembos

JMAL

good tip.

yeah i really dont care, you cant even really see them thru the type s wheels anyways. but for those who have more open wheels that is helpful.

01tl4tl

Yep- I went to 18 inch Enkeis and suddenly everything was exposed
Had it on the rolling drum smog tester recently, and you can see thru the wheels in motion
Have to keep everything shiny and caliper/rotor touch up paint has a place on the shelf

wilp99

i installed ebay rotors about 6 months ago and so far so good. they stop on a dime. way better than stock ones. and they are quiet no squeeks. the only noise you get is a wirring noise under hard braking. and if the window is down and your slowing down (maybee 1/5th brake you can hear the slots as they touch the pads. lovin them, glad i saved a few bucks.

JMAL

i have the same noises. im pretty sure all slotted rotors do that tho.

CAB NY

it only been two months with F/B raceconcept rotors & axxis pad (SS brake lines) and its a big difference from stock

EL19

iTrader: (4)

its been about a year and 20K with my R1 concepts cross drilled and slotted rotors with axiss ceramic pads...took them off the other day to chekc them and they are still good as new

etxxz

raceconcepts slotted only rotors. good no warping, lots of heavy spirited driving/braking on EB green pads.

3 years, 35,0000miles and i have a 2inch crack in my front driver's rotor. crack started to develop about a year ago. It starts at one of the slotts (machining caused) and i've been keeping track of it as an experiment for a materials experiment (mech eng). i can't let it grow anymore though as brake dust is accumulating at the crack suggesting dislevel and this can get ugly real quick.

01tl4tl

That will be exciting when the rotor breaks!!!

yunginTL

i bought some brembos that i guess were blanks and machine drilled and slotted, they warped on me after a year but ran long enough and the braking power was lovely.