So I've always hated the huge ugly wheel gap between the front tires and the fender. When I switched to 03 type S rims from my stockers it looked even worst ( I could fit a fist in between the fender and the tire). So after I changed my balljoints and a shock change was in order I purchased a Tokico cup kit.

The shop told me it was a 1.5 drop…Which by my estimation should have given me a nice 2 finger gap above the front tires.

Well…..

There is next to NO gap. We’re talking a finger barely….the ride is not to stiff, but the car almost looks raked….front is definitely lower than the back. My boys love it…but I’m not an attention seeker and the springs haven’t even settle yet, I might be tucking tire if they go down any more.

I’m debating putting on the front stock springs again, seeing as the Tokicos are shorter shocks I’m thinking that the ride height will be a happy medium…am I wrong? Anyone running tokico’s with stock springs?

Help!

I'll try to get pics up....

 

my eibach's were a 2" drop and i still had a gap...

 

I dropped with Tannabe NF 210 springs, which are advertised as dropping 1.5 " and that was what they did, and I still have some space. ( I have 17" wheels)

My rear wheel gap was and still is larger than my front wheel gap

 

Based on what you guys are saying that's why I think something isn't right with this drop. I didn't think that an inch and a half was anywhere near what I currently have.

I'm at work right now but I will definately get pics up to give everyone an idea of how steep this drop is. Again I'm not rubbing over speed bumps and it turns fine, it's just excessively low IMO.

 

are the correct springs on the front and rear??--wouldnt be the first time someone installed them opposite

 

Yeah get some pics up. Most members have a good eye with dropped cars.

 

my H&R 1.75 drop leaves me gap.

Oh and putting on type-s wheels wouldnt have changed the wheel gap. Overall the tire dia is the same as the TL-P 16s

 

some pics

 

I apologize for the Sh*t quality, as I'm at work and all I have is my Blackberry cam...but hopefully you can decipher what I'm dealing with here.

I'll take proper photos later tonight...

 

the rear looks like its at stock height.

 

Yep...That's exactly what I said/thought when it was finished. But the springs/shocks are on there.

@01tl4tl I hope not. These guys are one of the supposed better tuning shops in my area, and come with a pretty decent pedigree/reviews. whyme:

 

its not hard to put the springs on the wrong end of the car,,they fit!!
but not the right coil height,,, and what you have is a typical result--as has been seen on azine in the past

great shops still let the shop kid/trainee do the grunt work~

 

Thanks for that...I called the shop which was quick to tap dance....

So It looks like I'm going to be taking this to my legit mechanic this week to have him switch them.

Pissed doesn't begin to express my discontent.

Makes me wish I had just kept the damn stock height and dealt with the monster truck wheel gap.

 

bring it back to the shop that did it and have them make sure the springs are on the right end.

 

make sure your rear springs are up inside the strut bucket.

 

I just had a similar conversation in another part of the forum. Dropping the height makes a nice looking car look like it belongs to a 16 year old going to high school.

Not only that but there is not one good thing associated with doing it. Lower clearance. Rougher ride (generally) and possible steering problems. Plus it costs money! On top of that it will kill the resale value of your ride. Dealerships dont like it. I sure dont like it. If I was to buy your car, now I have to spend money to put it up to stock height.
Its like those dumb-ass loud mufflers. Or those ugly HUGE 19+ size wheels that the ghetto folks love.

Tell them to return it stock height man. It looks MUUUUCH better and people dont look at your ride and think "16 year old".

 

what an ignorant post.

 

Took it too far on that one.

 

Agreed.

 

You can buy shocks/coilovers where you can adjust it so it does not have to be slammed. A shock/spring or coilover combo can be better than stock in every aspect. They are adjustable and can ride smoother than stock setup if set too softest setting(atleast mine can).

It is pretty easy to take coilovers or shocks off when you want to sell car. I don't think a 1 to 2 finger gap makes you look like a 16 year old, instead that comment just makes you sound old. Driving at stock height is just silly. I cant think of any other car stock with so much wheel gap looks horrible.

 

Look man I dont know where YOU live but Im in the Chicago area. Im not lying to you. No reason. If you dont feel the same way (outside of asthetics) then tell me why. I dont see anything in my post that is "ignorant". Im actually in the used auto industry. Maybe you should have an open mind or at the very least be a tad more friendly. Im not personally attacking you.


Well its great that you can have that adjustable. That DOES make a difference.

Now regarding the gap, I think it looks much better at stock. I know the vast majority of people wanting to buy a car of this stature dont want it lowered. Plus I cant see it being a good idea in snow either. At the end of summer I'll be selling my 18" for 16" or 17". The larger 18" look better but they arent practical where I live. Their cost is way more than what I want to pay for and their wet and snow traction are pretty poor too.

If you like lowering them.... great. Im about just being practical and keeping the car in great shape with a good resale price. I like stock

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=199

 

where are you getting your info please show me proof of such thing where it states that mods affect resale value

 

You probably didnt see it but I posted it a few other threads. I work in the used auto industry. I go to auto auctions 2x a week. I also have worked for 2 dealers (non-Acura) before also. Its just one of the things we talk about. A vehicle altered like that doesnt appeal to the MAJORITY of buyers. Its a very very niche market. Parents dont want to buy a car like that for their kids even if the kid wants it. It just doesnt appeal to them.
BUUUUUUT.... if youre in say, California, and at a used car dealership that specializes in buying those types of cars then THAT niche market will swarm to them and the car is possibly worth the same ORRRR more! Just as long as the aftermarket was done with very quality parts and the work that was done on it was quality. its a tad similar to a sound system. If your head unit was Dual then..... forget it man. No one wants it. If is was Alpine and all the wiring and speakers and enclosures was done top notch then it is then worth MORE.

Im really not trying to be a jerk here. I thought it would be ok to just discuss MY opinion and then also what Ive come across. I didnt mean to cause folks to get mad at me

 

whats wrong with looking like a 16 year old? im 15 and a half you jerk.

 

Nothing. *tweesing grey hair out of chest*
But seriously, the TL look great with the stock tire width, no?

 

^

 

 

You're more than welcome to your opinion, this is the place for it, its why people post pictures and ask for advice.
However, like rockstar said, you are in the wrong alley, and even in the wrong part of town.
If you like the gap then hey, we wont discriminate, you wont have many followers though, not atleast on this forum.

 

First, I wish I was 16 again.. Especially with a TL. My first car was a 1984 Ford Mustang 4cyl, I bought for a 1000 bucks.

I am older now and I don't agree that the stock height looks better. That is my opinion as is yours on the opposite.

Our cars are older now and we would never expect great resale on them.

P

 

No it doesnt, makes it look like a car and not a 4x4.

Sure there are, handles better, looks better, mine rides as good if not better than stock, no steering problems. At this point with a 11 year old car resale value isnt much of a issue for most anymore, not to mention the trans issues pretty much killed resale value.

 

Not at all

 

While everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours, I have to disagree with you. You really think your car on stock suspension looks better than one with a drop?...



Versus...



Personally I think when you put aftermarket wheels on your car and don't do suspension as well, it looks like you ran out of funds to complete the look. Dropping my car was probably one of the best things I've done to it. Can it be a headache? Sure, but having a car in general can be a headache whether you're on stock suspension or not. Drop > stock height. Just my

 

^ i think that one is too low (my opinion) but a mild drop to get rid of the gap looks much better than the 4x4 stance the car has.


Personally i think this is a better example


4x4 style stock height


dropped

 

I would agree.

 

I dont know of many 16 year olds that can afford to properly slam their cars on coilovers so i have no idea what you are talking about. A 16 year old with a properly stanced clean car is extremely rare.

That is why most of us "part out" our car before selling it.

I dont want you to buy my car. You would turn it into a monster truck.


kbye.

 

Looks backwards

 

*Walks in..looks around* Really there is no question to stock height vs a drop whether it be moderate or dumped...with out altered right height imo would be lacking the appeal factor

 

Regarding the looks of lowering your own vehicle, I'd prefer a properly stanced car to one that looks like a 4x4 anyday. Granted some people take it too far sometimes, it does not take away from the looks of the vehicle.

I'd also like to add that my grandma has an easier time getting into and out of my car when it is lowered compared to other vehicles in my family, so this is a plus for me as well.

 

^ interesting. in my experience i have found that minivans are the perfect height for the elderly.

people with knee problems should not come in my car. they would fall into the seat and not be able to get themselves out.