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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Hey I know this may sound stupid, but I know nothing about springs and dropping. I have tried searching the forum, but I still don't understand. So I hope someone can help me out. I am looking to drop my car a bit. Nothing drastic, just a little bit to make it look better. However I want to keep the stock ride as much as possible. So I was wondering what would be the best springs to go with...both for what I am looking for, and I want top quality. Also, is there any negative effect on my tires, and what is all this camber talk I see? Thanks for the help.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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H&R OE Sports are the springs you want to look at if you're looking to drop your car slightly. As for the negative on your tires, I don't think the OE Sports can do that much negative as compared to the H&R Sports Springs or Comptech Springs.

H&R OE Sports: Front .75" / Rear .75"
H&R Sports: Front 1.75" / Rear 1.5"
Comptech: Front 1.75" / Rear 1.5"
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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in the rear you can drop the car as low as 2 inches before you need a camber kit. The Comptech springs were designed to work with the stock shocks so you wouldn't need a camber kit. I just dropped mine 1.50/1.25 with TEIN SS Coilovers
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Whats the difference between springs and coilovers? Why would I choose one over the other?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Springs: Non-adjustable
Coilovers: Adjustable springs...and with the Teins SS, you can have it hooked up to a EDFC, which allows you to adjust them from inside your car.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Ok thanks...I don't think I need anything adjustable. I am just looking for a slightly more aggressive appearance, but keeping the smooth stock ride as much as possible. Are the H&R OE designed to work with stock shocks like the comptechs? I don't really want to get into replacing the shocks too.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Manus99
Ok thanks...I don't think I need anything adjustable. I am just looking for a slightly more aggressive appearance, but keeping the smooth stock ride as much as possible. Are the H&R OE designed to work with stock shocks like the comptechs? I don't really want to get into replacing the shocks too.
Yes they will work with your stock shocks...but your gonna have to eventually switch out your stock shocks sooner or later.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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The advantage of coilovers isn't necessarily adjustability (although most are adjustable).

The main advantage of coilovers is a matched set of shocks and springs. Its better in the regard that the two were designed to work together. If you buy Comptech Springs and use them on your stock shocks, they'll work, but the shorter springs will cause your shocks to work harder and they'll need to be replaced earlier. Most likely if you replace the shocks, you'd replace them with something like Koni Yellows, which are great shocks but they're not necessarily designed from the ground up to work with the Comptech Springs.

However, I think Comptech Springs run maybe $275 or so? Tein SS coilovers would run you about $850 or so. So the price difference is pretty significant.

For the Tein SS Coilovers there is the advantage of adjustability. The ride height is adjustable, so you could potentially run the Teins at the same ride height as stock. The ride height isn't dynamically adjustable though. You need to put your car up on a jack and take the tires off to mess with the ride height. The Tein SS coilovers also having a dampening adjustability. The dampening rate defines how stiff your shocks run. At full dampening, the shocks absorb as much of the impact as it can and you'll be left with a close to stock ride. With no dampening at all, you're riding on almost no shocks and you get a very bouncy ride, feeling almost every little bump in the road. The EDFC (Electronic Dampening Force Controller) will allow you to dynamically adjust the dampening rate on the Tein SS coilovers while you're sitting in the car. Great if you want to take some twisties and then later want to cruise in comfort on the highway.

In any case, if you want the springs mostly for looks, I'd recommend the Comptech Springs. They make the car look pretty much perfect ride height wise and Comptech has a great reputation in terms of reliability. Comptech is almost like Toyota's TRD for Honda/Acura (although Comptech isn't actually owned by Honda/Acura).

Comptech should ride almost like stock, and eventually when you need to replace the shocks due to wear, you can probably get Koni Yellows or Toxico shocks which aren't overly expensive.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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VIEW THIS THREAD...it should help you out with most of your questions...

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122322
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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G unit,
What is your spring and tire setup?
You got a good lookin CL.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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thx bro...

Rims: 18" RH Evolution C2's (+42 offset)
Springs: H&R Sports (i think its 1.75 FF, 1.5 RR drop)
Shocks: Stock
Tires: Hankook Ventus 225/40/18

I never rub as well, even with my wife and kid in the back....
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Actually the H&R OE Sport gives a 1" drop in front, .75" in back. I know many don't care for the OE Sport but to me there's enough of a noticeable drop, I don't worry about driveways and speedbumps and my recent alignment was in spec. The ride is definitely more controlled without being stiff. I think these springs are worth considering.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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In my opinion, the Eibach pro-kit is good for the most aggressive look, however, you will be prone to alot more grinding of the bumpers to pavement and the shocks probably will wear faster. I'd go with the Comptechs just because they were designed specifically for the TL, and if your planning to get the sway bars later, its a nice combo to get both from comptech.
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