i got a question ive seen video of people doing burn out in their tl-s and i tired once but i could barley get the tires going and yes i had the vsa off but still couldnt manage to spin them but then again my car is still new 2000 miles.....how long or how many miles by the time the power really kicks in? thanks

 

have you put new tires on?

With stock tires I can squeel almost every time i start moving, with or without VSA. The stock tires suck and can be spun really easily, just floor it.

Oh, and 260HP is at the crank, not the wheels

 

With the crappy Michelin tires it's no big feat.

 

One way to guarantee to smoke them. In N, rev to 6000rpm, then drop it to D5. Woh, you get smoke from tire, then the transmission. What a sight!

 

Tranny failures due to poor engineering?


axleback

 

Due to abuse on top of poor engineering

 

yeah well thanks for all your response i dont plan on neutral dropping my tranny anytime soon so i hold off on that but aside for the questions i am still on stockers.....and their kinds hard to spin...anyone have the problem where their engine still need to be broken in or think their cars were weak to begin with and all the sudden it runs much better?!?! thanks

 

vsa off. power brake to get the revs up (in D), then slowly release. You'll burn 'em all right. If you want to really get it done, put your front wheels in some water!

 

Well, I can burn out the tires very damn easy actually! and I chirp it almost everytime. It's annoying. these tires suck You should be able to do it man. I have 4000 miles on my car.

oh yeah, I heard it's not good to brake torque your car either.

 

Maybe you are not stepping on the gas hard enough. I have a TL-DX and still can spin the stock tires with TCS off. Well not burn out

 

perhaps my engine is still new?!!? ok thanks guys

 

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QUOTE]oh yeah, I heard it's not good to brake torque your car either[/QUOTE]



and it isn't to drop it into drive with high revs?well, it is not good to do any of this burn out/ drag stuff. but now and then we do it anyway.

 

In an empty parking lot, VSA off, turn your steering wheel to either extreme right or left, stomp (literally floor) on the gas paddle, and do donut for a bit and you will see smoke.

 

what about straing line?

 

Parking brake is your friend.

 

hehe i was thinking about that...

 

With stock tires I would burn rubber manually shifting from 3rd to 2nd. Off the line it should happen quite easily with VSA off.

 

does anyone know when the good crossover point is when the engine is working good when its broken in....

 

I really don't think that the tls has 260 hp.
I have driven the tls and it drives exactly like a honda accord.
Maybe due to it sharing platforms.

I honestly think 260 is a number that acura made up.
Just think about it, a competing bmw 330i is rated to have 40 less hp, but yet spanks the tls in performance.

The tls feels more like 220 hp at best.

Maybe after you throw in aftermarket intake, exhaust and headers you will get up to 260 hp. I mean doesn't acura use modded cars for road test anyways.

Oh yeah and before some of the queer folks here jump down my throat. The stated observation is MY opinion, I am entitled to it.

So just go about your life.

 

Brilliant post, BigPimping2! I'm not going to jump down your throat -- your idiocy just shines in this post and I think it's best to let it speak for itself.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that coming from a Nissan/Infiniti advocate.

You did hear about the flack about the Q45 right?? What about how Nissan decreased the advertised HP figures of the I35, Max and Sentra by at least 5hp each before release which was coincidentally after everyone who tested the Q called BS on the claimed HP figures. This was all well documented and published info by numerous sources which Nissan/Infiniti took alot of heat over.

Now what were you saying about Honda/Acura BigPimpin?????

P.S. Its brilliant the comparison between the I-6 and SOHC V6. Funny with a bigger Engine and one more cam the Max produces 5 less hp with their "claimed" 255hp, although more "claimed" torque. Hmmmmmmmmm Sorry RAADAMS; I couldnt resist.

 

I can even peel the tires decently on my v6 Accord with my 225/40 18s....you must be doing something wrong

 

I was thinking the same thing. Coming from an infiniti/Nissan fanatic that is pretty funny. I guess his G must feel like it only has 215 hp considering his times are even with ours and his car weighs 200-300 pounds less!

Oh asiankidd, I spun my tires for you last night from a 5mph role with VSA on. Felt bad cuz it was a residential area at almost midnight and the chirp was loud! I had to make sure I could, since I never did it before. VSA went crazy too!

 

Asiankidd, i have a 99 TL-p with CL-S chrome on the good ole' Mich rubbers, and I can tear those at will.

 

hehehe i feel so special ......how many miles do you have? i guess my engine is still new....

 

I only have 5300 miles on my baby! She is getting stronger with age!

 

Funny that when Nissan/Infiniti send out letters to Infiniti owners, it stated that G35 has 255HP!?!? LOL.... that's very strange.....

Andy Kuo

 

wth is a "TL-DX" I have a 99TL and even my MOM made the stock tires peel out when I let her try to drive it (and my mom typically drives 10-15mph UNDER the speed limit). Now I have some Dunlop W10's and can still peel them out at will, even though the traction compared to stock tires is a million times better.

 

aww man you guys make me wanna cry....tl-s is tl-SLOW hahah....i just wait till the engine is more broken into thanks for the input guys

 

Jeez, askiankidd, you are dying for someone to answer that - you will pick up a handful of HP as your car picks up, but spinning the tires is a torque issue, and if you cannot, you are not doing something right. All mine could spin 'em, but with the record of the transmission this is asking for trouble.

And power braking a FWD car is an invitation to tranny failure, as the operating temps go up very very fast - at mpost do it a few seconds. Next month we will see a post from you saying "My tranny failed - WTF!"

 

BMWs have very efficient drivetrains, and RWD+good tires+less weight = good acceleration, you should know that by now...
what you feel is entirely subjective, and it's the wheel hp, not crank hp, so maybe the TL doesn't feel as fast, doesn't mean the engine itself does not have 260hp
why does the accord feels faster? less weight
try go running a lap holding some weights then running without weights, simple logics buddy

if anything, the g35 may have less hp then advertised, because it has all the advantages i listed above plus superior aerodynamics and more torque, it makes no sense to me how the TL can out-do it in the 0-100mph acceleration, so go figure

oh, by the way, by pointing out facts to show the truth, i'm supposed to be queer now?

 

If you can't squeel your tires, there's something wrong. I have to be careful *not* to squeel the tires in daily driving. It's that easy. And you're not going to see a magical 40 hp boost at break-in.

eCo

 

i dont plan on abusing but after seeing all those videos just wondering if a smoke machine resides in my car or not...hehe

 

"when Nissan/Infiniti send out letters to Infiniti owners

And how would you know.

 

My previous car was an Accord V6 3.0. There is absolutely no comparison between the performance of the two. The TL-S has much tighter handling, much less body roll, much more responsive steering. The engine feels 2-3 times stronger with low end torque. (I absolutely hated the lack of torque on the Accord). The TL-S runs strong all the way to fuel cutoff. The Accord almost always started loosing power before redline. The transmission in the Accord was totally unpredictable. I had no clue what gear it would drop down to when I floored it. The TL-S almost always does what I expect.

How can you say the cars perform the same? I bet you’ve never driven both of them?
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We were out last night after make a few very mild runs through Brea Canyon. I have 235's and at the stoplight this thread popped in my head so I thought "what the heck." VSA off, light turns green. I backed off because it took me my surprise. All I can say is awesome!

This is the first time I have had a chance to really test the handling, braking (upgraded bigtime) and acceleration. The TypeS out of the box is real good. With the mods, it is a GREAT car. :wow:

 

it's quite sad that people now only think that 0-60 in the most important thing is life, but to see a car's true potential, you really need to drive it and look at all parts of the performance spectrum
the G35 is fast in a straight line, but the TL-S is faster if you're talking about engine potential, but the TL-S has NO CHANCE to outrun the g35 in corners so there you have it

wouldn't it be nice if the G35 chssis is attached to the TL-S body and engine... that would be so very nice

i mean it would be no doubt the TLS can outrun the G35 in 0-60 if you could go WOT w/o having tirespin, but then again, TLS is a fast family sedan, and only that
it cannot outhandle the g35 no matter how you slice it, but let's race once the snow falls in the winter!:p

 

Stock to stock, This is very true. With the springs, shocks, wheels, tires, sways and especially the brakes, I would give a G35 a very competitive run. True, I have put some good $ into my Type S now so a dollar to dollar comparison is not a true reflection of the stocks cars' characterisitics.

On the other hand, I am still shy of a 3 series price tag. My brother has a 328i and drove the cars back to back. He preferred my Type S This car has great potential.

Imagine if Acura made a "sport" Type S with a 6sp and the same mods for say around $35k. They would have a killer on their hands.

Oh yeah, I still think the G35 is "unfortunate" looking. :yack:

 

need we say more.....heheh