kdawg8526

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went to the dyno for the first time and really dissappointed in my numbers i almost didnt wanna post them up..

i got 197whp and 174wtq my mods are cai ct headers atlp exhaust ur crank pulley p2r tb spacer and gaskets.. ive heard of stock j32a2 making around this much i dont know what could be wrong. this was also done on a mustang dyno and from what ive heard the mustang dyno usually gives higher numbers then dynojet.

well anyways hope u guys can help me out i know that my imrc is opening though and i did seafoam on my vacuum line just last night hoping to clear out the engine a bit before i dyno... however i know i have to change my timing belt and do valve adjustment and plus my side mount is broken

heres the dyno sheet i took with my iphone so not that good quality. i cant get the video to show up but heres the link...

might wanna turn down your speakers.. its reallly loud vvvv

http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w...t=IMG_0211.mp4

this was my first time so i dont know what any of these numbers mean.. my torque curve looks kinda weird.. the guy said im running rich my afr was 11.6

kdawg8526

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thank u i fixed it just in time.. now try

and a side note my car started driving lil bit sluggish just recently too.. and the guys at the dyno didnt really know how to strap the car down properley. if i show u guys the other video it is scary it looks like the cars gonna fly off the dyno...

i think ima try another place next time

Rejckt

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too rich for a na setup. I run 11.8 for boosted setup. You need to be at like 13 sir.

assclown

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that might be it, because i plan to do a baseline dyno here in the next month or two before the swap to compare HP numbers and i'm expecting 180-190 on my j32a1

n1njai

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Yeah..you're running rich my friend...

kdawg8526

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how do i fix that?

hANDYcaptd

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Wow, that is low for those mods. Stock TL-S makes about that much...

Have you done spark plugs yet?

kdawg8526

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thats what i been thinking too and yup i changed sparkplugs last year to iridium ix and cleaned the throttle plate when i got tb spacer installed and bought a new fujita filter just recently.. its weird because it does feel way more powerful then when i first bought the car stock. i lose traction when i shift to second gear on new tires too its got lots of power but i dont know why it didnt show up on the dyno

xtremex626

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that's weird.. i didn't even hear vtec kick in during that whole dyno pull .. i'm sure you would see a huge difference when vtec is engaged

Rejckt

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If vtack didnt engage, his base line wouldn't go up as much as it did. He's running 11.3 on average. That's terrible. Get an emanage or FIC and tune the car. If you installed after market fuel upgrades, you'd run rich.

kdawg8526

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the sound quality was bad on the video but i did hear the vtec kik in when i was there. thats where i almost went deaf ahaha.


do you think maybe my intake manifold is heavily clogged up which may cause more fuel then air ratio. ive never ever taken it off and cleaned it. i only did seafoam

Rejckt

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doubt it

kdawg8526

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so u think thats why i got such low numbers because im running really rich?

01tl4tl

you never did the egr port cleaning? and need a motor mount and more importantly the valve adjustment
without those being spot on you lose power
Depending on whats happening it will affect air but you have something else going on

If you have access to a scanner and can drive around with it plugged in...

air filter new but how does it flow?

ck O2 sensor resistance, high enough miles for everything else may need a sensor now as well

remove a sparkplug or 2 and see how they look

01tl4tl

you did an ecu reset recently??????--as in, after header or other major mod

the ol clock fuse method is what I mean- then a few weeks driving normal for it to relearn

01tl4tl

go somewhere that knows what they are doing!

Dynos can vary by many hp between brands, and even day to day on same machine with change in air temps and engine temp..early morning for highest numbers and fresh synthetic oil eeks out a little more via less resistance

Set tire pressures before dyno too

Who knows when it was calibrated,,especially ones being abused by untrained person

kdawg8526

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i resetted the ecu about a month or 2 ago after headers and pulley. and when u say drive normal for it to relearn. does that mean no flooring it what so ever? because i think i probably floored it after resetting and idling for a few minutes

and i went around 12pm noon and its about 24 degrees celsius

bass222000

One thing I have learned in my years around "modding" cars is don't base everything around "numbers" you put down on dyno. Too many factors involved with that.. rather how the power you do have is put down. Dyno numbers vary from day to day too much. Best way to determine your power is to take that thing to the drag strip.

kdawg8526

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damn but i like knowing how much hp i got too. but i will take it to the track sometime i really love racing so well see how that goes

jaMezBOI

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those numbers are really low


I thought my numbers were low, I put down 225whp

Check to see if the vac line from your FPR to ur IM is on properly

kdawg8526

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^ will do. im gonna start changing everything and start doing the maintenance on the car i been putting it off lol gotta do the 100k service

Pure Adrenaline

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Legitimate point, but still. 197 fwhp? I have similar modifications on my '03 TL-S and I put down 240 fwhp. That's a huge difference. Something's not right, and the AFR is a good indicator of what's wrong.

Plus drag strip numbers are just as variable as dyno numbers depending on weather, traction, launch/driver skills, etc. At least on the dyno, you are taking the driver variable out of the equation.

Start with the basics. Air filter. EGR ports. IMRC.

Then get an AFR controller and adjust the ratio.

iforyou

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Just come and race me in my stock TL-S and then you will see if your car is acting normal or not :P

kdawg8526

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haha lets do it next meet... it does feel alot stronger then when i first bought the car

phee

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sounds like someone removed the wrong 02 sensor on the dyno. do a run without an AFR reading and watch your numbers go up.

kdawg8526

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i dont remember them taking off the o2 sensor do they do that?

iforyou

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So right now, you still feel that your car is much stronger than when it was stock? If I remember correctly, my friend's S2k with itb's, exhaust, and tune was making 167whp on a mustang dyno.

kdawg8526

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yup alot stronger unless my car was running slow since the day i bought it

iforyou

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hmm...if u were able to keep up with a 335i, then i'm pretty sure ur car is stronger....i guess mustang dyno reads low.

speedemon90

You're able to keep up with a 335i and you are pulling those numbers?

Maybe you are pulling higher numbers, but I seriously doubt enough to keep up with a 335i, although the driver could have been horrible but something is definitely wrong there.

speedemon90

Maybe its juts that your car is old and thats why you aren't seeing the numbers you want. I'm taking it you bought it used? How many miles did you have on it when you bought it?

I've heard stuff like seafoam wont do much if you start doing it when your car has high miles. At that point stuff needs to be taken apart to get a proper clean. Maybe thats the reason? I know when I did seafoam on my car for the first time at 150k miles, I really didnt feel any difference. The most improvement I got on feel was changing the spark plugs. I'm pretty sure I'm running quite below stock numbers.


Also what kind of fuel did you have in your car? Our cars require 91 to get all that performance out of it.

kdawg8526

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i had 91 octane in it spark plugs have been changed already and intake manifolds gonna be changed to a new 2009 tl one so i dont wanna bother cleaning the old manifold up

kdawg8526

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i called the dyno shop today and they said they didnt even take out the o2 sensor they said they hooked a pipe on to the exhaust to get the A/F ratio from the fumes

phee

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A tail pipe sniffer is hardly an accurate reading of your actual a/f. I wouldn't trust it. Find a shop that has a dynojet and knows what they are doing. Don't pay more than 60 bucks for a dyno either.

kdawg8526

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thats what i was thinking... this place near me uses a dyno dynamics is that any good??

and 100 bucks is the normal charge for dynos round here in canada

Rejckt

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dynomax reads the lowest, personally i like them because of that. each place you goto will read different due to correction factor.

kdawg8526

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the new dyno place i called also said they hook up a pipe to the exhaust for afr but they said it maybe about 5% off so its pretty accurate... is this true??

Accordinglo

i say go to another dyno shop...preferably a dynojet...and if you are still making disappointing numbers its possible the catalytic converter may be clogged

ts_vaj

Mustang dyno reads lower. You were probably expecting Dynojet numbers.

I got 225whp with just Comptech CAI and XS Headers on them. You're probably pushing over 240hp with all those mods.

kdawg8526

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i cant find anyone with dynojet here in vancouver canada