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Old May 14, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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Is dealer BS or what?

I was told today that they only make 10000 TL-S per year so they are hard to come by. I don't buy it, his price was good though if I can get out of the office early I will call him on his in person quote and take it if he is real.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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Umm, I don't believe that is true. I don't know the exact numbers, but I think it's higher then that. It may not be by much, but I think it's higher....

Even if it is true... they're not tough to come by. Unless you want a specific color/option combo, they are all over the place. Go to any dealer and you should see some on the lot....
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Old May 14, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Latest sales data for HMC is March 2002. Through March 2002, Acura sold:

-14,939 TLs (down 15% from this time last year)
-12,871 MDXs (up 12% from this time last year)
-7,294 RSXs (first year model, no previous data)
-3,395 CLs (down 33% from this time last year)
-2,349 RLs (down 9% from this time last year)
-75 NSXs (up 55% from this time last year)
-17 Integras (must be left over 2001s, down 99.6% from this time last year)

As you can see, the TL is their number one selling model, although I believe the MDX is projected to pass it this year. They sell almost 5 TLs for every one CL sold (even the RSX is doubling sales for the CL).

When the Type S model was released last year, Acura predicted that 35% of TL buyers would opt for the package, which means they would probably schedule production accordingly. I believe that figure dropped to 25% for 2003 model year, but even still if you extrapolate from the 1st quarter data, you would get:

14,939 TLs sold in 3 months = approximately 59,756 TLs sold for the year. If 25% of those cars were produced in Type S trim to meet expected demand, then you'd be looking at just about 15,000 units per year that are TL-Ss.

Now seeing as how in that same three month period, Honda sold 85,006 Accords, it makes the TLs numbers seem rare. However, I don't think there's enough of a demand for the TL-S that makes it hard to find for a dealer, and therefore you should be in no rush to find one. Heck, based on those sales figures, a CL-S is five times more rare than a TL-S, and dealers have no trouble locating those.

Hope this helps....
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Old May 14, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Yeah, the local dealer to my office had plenty of them I just thought his statement was funny.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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The last I read was 18,000 TLS this year is Acura's goal.

My dealer gave me a similar line. Except the problem in San Diego is that as soon as they get them...they're gone. The longest I've seen one sit on the lot here is about a week and a half.

When I bought mine, they had 2 TLS on Monday. By Friday's new shipment all were gone. Friday the dealer rec'd 6 TLS and sold 4 same day. I bought one of the two TLS on the lot Sat. (March 02)

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Old May 14, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Salesmen. They are all alike!!! It doesn't matter which dealer they work for. They were trained to say SOS just to get customers into "rush buying" trap.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Somebody raise the BS flag please...
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Old May 15, 2002 | 05:33 AM
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Yeah dealers are generally full of it-

Although the TLS is hard to come by at certain dealers. I was told Acura dealers are alloted so many cars per month. So, if a dealer has a large client base they tend to sell to more repeat buyers keeping their inventory low.

A particular dealer close to me was really pushing me to get into the car in early April and I wasnt ready until the end of April. I came back he had no cars- tuned out for the better though-

Boring story just thought I would throw in my 2 cents


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Old May 15, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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they got plenty of them
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Old May 15, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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I know for a fact, that Acura is/has been planning on 40% of all TL's being S-Type. So it's pure BS.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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WELL USALLY THE DEALERS THAT SELL MORE VOLUME WILL GET MORE CARS ALSO WHEN I BOUGHT MINE THEY HAD AT LEAST 8 TLS ON THE LOT BUT MINE WAS A DEALER TRANSFER BECAUSE OF THE OPTIONS I WANTED AND COLOR SSM. BY THE WAY THEY WERE THE NUMBER ONE VOLUME DEALER IN THE UNITED STATES,
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Old May 15, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by NsX Pilot
BY THE WAY THEY WERE THE NUMBER ONE VOLUME DEALER IN THE UNITED STATES,
The dealership I bought from claimed the same - said they were #1 for the past three years.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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The two I visited in the mid west said they were the #1 volume dealer in the US------------ BS


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Old May 15, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by pianoman41
Heck, based on those sales figures, a CL-S is five times more rare than a TL-S, and dealers have no trouble locating those.
Wouldn't selling fewer of a particular model make them LESS rare?
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Old May 15, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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EDIT: nevermind


how about RARER
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Old May 15, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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How about even more rare.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Anyway, I found one on the dealer lot still wrapped up with 7 miles on it, I pick it up Saturday.
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