Cylinder 4,5,5 misfire Help!!!!!
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Cylinder 4,5,5 misfire Help!!!!!
Hi guy! Got an 01 TL With a check engine on and it said cylinder 4,5,6 misfire!? Wtf the car run like new! So i decide to change all the spark plug (NGK) on all of the cylinder and rest the check engine light but it come back as the same code! got any ideas let me know...... BTW the car run Like new and there is no shake on the engine at all PLEASE HeLP MEEEEE.
#4
or unplug 1 coil at a time and ck idle speed for slight drop-change
the one that doesnt drop is a bad coil
you installed the correct 8 dollar each NGK?
and reset ECU how--clock fuse? I dont trust machines for this!!
the one that doesnt drop is a bad coil
you installed the correct 8 dollar each NGK?
and reset ECU how--clock fuse? I dont trust machines for this!!
#5
yea i had this same problem the other week. i was able to figure it out thanks to 01tl4tl! do what 01tl4tl said and check each coil pack while the car is running. no drop/change in rpm=bad coil. then yea just reset the ecu after u figure out which one it is.
as for the plugs its the NGK iridium ix ones so hopefully you used those.
as for the plugs its the NGK iridium ix ones so hopefully you used those.
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thanks for the reply guys.... yep change the NGK plug that cost 8 buck each, but i got a 99 TL to so imma try to swap all the coil from that car to the 01 TL and see what happen. And i reset it buy disconnecting the battery is that ok? All So the car had transmission redone and when driving it the TCS light come on, is that happen to any of you guy after yall got the transmission redone?
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back to the trans shop for you!!!
dont swap all the coils--find out which one ,,
if its a coil at all-- now that we know there is a transmission rebuild involved
You can reset ECU with NEG battery cable removal but that makes you enter the radio code
Lazy way is remove CLOCK fuse on end of passenger side dash
thats the secret backup power for the ecu and will force a full reset and relearn/self test
without disturbing the radio security
dont swap all the coils--find out which one ,,
if its a coil at all-- now that we know there is a transmission rebuild involved
You can reset ECU with NEG battery cable removal but that makes you enter the radio code
Lazy way is remove CLOCK fuse on end of passenger side dash
thats the secret backup power for the ecu and will force a full reset and relearn/self test
without disturbing the radio security
#9
Don't replace all the coils thats a grip of cash unless your ballin like that. Haha but do what was said earlier and test each one that way if one is bad you can identify it which saves you from buying 6 new ones. Assuming any of them are bad that is...
#10
note: he said he HAS/in possession of- a coil set off another TL engine,,
but why do all the work if only one is bad?
IF you are going to replace incorrect spark plugs--may as well throw on the other coils you have sitting around
again-trans rebuild may be at issue and cause false codes
a bad coil will usually show in slight roughness at idle or under full hard pulling load--the power just doesnt feel right
try the disconnect each one and see if rpm changes slightly
no change = bad coil
but why do all the work if only one is bad?
IF you are going to replace incorrect spark plugs--may as well throw on the other coils you have sitting around
again-trans rebuild may be at issue and cause false codes
a bad coil will usually show in slight roughness at idle or under full hard pulling load--the power just doesnt feel right
try the disconnect each one and see if rpm changes slightly
no change = bad coil
Last edited by 01tl4tl; 05-08-2011 at 10:49 AM.
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ok ok guys i have good news hahahahahah So Saturday nite i swap all the coil from the 01 TL to my 99 TL rite... i didn't reset the engine check light rite and i also did the timing-belt the same nite rite,,,, drive it a liltle bit on sunday rite the check engine light still on, and drive it today the light went off!!!!!! hahah i was so happy and bring my car straight to the inspection and pass it......
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@Karanx7 thanks man but i can care less if the check engine light come back on or not, im passed the inspection!! and 01TL4TL umm I Live in RI so the new inspection machine is provide by the state and they didnt hook up the smog machine at all on both of my TL man.
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lucky you!! dont have smog test machines!!!
(but ck eng lights are always important- dont ignore)
and DO the ECU reset with clock fuse now to reboot the system- it may run even better
in Ca we have the smog ck,, but dont have to pass an actual safety exam of brakes-glass-lights etc
they dont care if you die,,, as long as the car isnt putting out excess emissions at the scene of the crash!
(but ck eng lights are always important- dont ignore)
and DO the ECU reset with clock fuse now to reboot the system- it may run even better
in Ca we have the smog ck,, but dont have to pass an actual safety exam of brakes-glass-lights etc
they dont care if you die,,, as long as the car isnt putting out excess emissions at the scene of the crash!
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Yea the inspection machine in RI is from the state so it is very difficult to to pass, The old inspection machine is easy if you know some one that work at the garage or pay them extra they can hook up a car the passed the inspection and let you pass. But the inspection machine in RI work by hook your car up and it automatic sent and store your car info to the state comp .... it a real bitch im telling you....
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BTW guys who live in CA and worry about smog test , clean the intake manifold by take them off and clean it the car run alot better and do like a seafoarm too, and the 01 Tl that i have i need to to the timing belt again!!!! dam it.... i jump a tool when i put the belt on and the car run a lil bit aggressive
#25
I didnt understand this part, but no worrys about passing a smog check, my cars stay clean and I really dont use seafoam only because I do not need too. I may one day do it for my integra feels a bit sluggish.
#26
dont need seafoam? how is that? your car doesnt run on internal combustion?
byproducts of partial fuel combustion residue- especially thanks to E10 gas, make the car run poorly
Getting rid of that crud restores power and mileage
dont care what product you use but use something
byproducts of partial fuel combustion residue- especially thanks to E10 gas, make the car run poorly
Getting rid of that crud restores power and mileage
dont care what product you use but use something
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TRust me seafoam does help some what but you get better result if you take the intake manifold out and clean it there a lot of shit in it, the main reason for me use seaform is to some what clean the o2 sensor and hopefully clean the cat a lil bit.... but hint! after let your car intake seafoam for 15 to 20 min don't rev it up to hard or step on it when the engine first start....
99 TL 2002980K original engine and tran and the fastest i have done on it is 130MP
99 TL 2002980K original engine and tran and the fastest i have done on it is 130MP
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dont need seafoam? how is that? your car doesnt run on internal combustion?
byproducts of partial fuel combustion residue- especially thanks to E10 gas, make the car run poorly
Getting rid of that crud restores power and mileage
dont care what product you use but use something
byproducts of partial fuel combustion residue- especially thanks to E10 gas, make the car run poorly
Getting rid of that crud restores power and mileage
dont care what product you use but use something
#29
TRust me seafoam does help some what but you get better result if you take the intake manifold out and clean it there a lot of shit in it, the main reason for me use seaform is to some what clean the o2 sensor and hopefully clean the cat a lil bit.... but hint! after let your car intake seafoam for 15 to 20 min don't rev it up to hard or step on it when the engine first start....
99 TL 2002980K original engine and tran and the fastest i have done on it is 130MP
99 TL 2002980K original engine and tran and the fastest i have done on it is 130MP
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both cars NEED it- if they run on usa spec E10 gas,,you will be pleasently surprised for the TL to be smoother and faster, better mileage etc
the seafoam diy describes in detail how to restart engine:
idle-just above idle, let it get smooth enough to freely rev to 2000, then drive in lower gear- 2000 for a few minutes as smoke spews
when engine is back on close to 100% gas- will rev to 4k,,then its time for a few minutes of that rpm and some vtec runs for play~~ keep under 5k as crud is moving out.
5-10 drive minutes.. and all is well for the blowout drive
I suggest add seafoam to gas tank before doing vac port, so its working the whole time.
Reminder- if in any doubt how to do vac port- use gas tank method twice and get better results than just vac port
NEED to do gas tank regardless of any other methods
AND need to clean TB air plate
the seafoam diy describes in detail how to restart engine:
idle-just above idle, let it get smooth enough to freely rev to 2000, then drive in lower gear- 2000 for a few minutes as smoke spews
when engine is back on close to 100% gas- will rev to 4k,,then its time for a few minutes of that rpm and some vtec runs for play~~ keep under 5k as crud is moving out.
5-10 drive minutes.. and all is well for the blowout drive
I suggest add seafoam to gas tank before doing vac port, so its working the whole time.
Reminder- if in any doubt how to do vac port- use gas tank method twice and get better results than just vac port
NEED to do gas tank regardless of any other methods
AND need to clean TB air plate
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mando--seafoam is a specific brand name, you can buy at most parts stores or even walmart (cheapest)
get 2, 16 ounce cans for about 7 to 10 dollars each,
special this week at Oreillys buy 2 get 1 free-20 bucks total
for you with doubts on your own skills: do the 2 times in gas tank method
thats better than just vac port and will subsitute for vac method no prob, and clean more parts
wait till a little under half tank of gas and pour in the whole can of seafoam.
repeat on another half tank and you are done- good for 1 year/15kmiles
Do clean the TB air plate with carb or TB spray cleaner
have to remove the air tube from air filter to engine--the air plate is inside TB
your friend can help or do for you in a few minutes
get 2, 16 ounce cans for about 7 to 10 dollars each,
special this week at Oreillys buy 2 get 1 free-20 bucks total
for you with doubts on your own skills: do the 2 times in gas tank method
thats better than just vac port and will subsitute for vac method no prob, and clean more parts
wait till a little under half tank of gas and pour in the whole can of seafoam.
repeat on another half tank and you are done- good for 1 year/15kmiles
Do clean the TB air plate with carb or TB spray cleaner
have to remove the air tube from air filter to engine--the air plate is inside TB
your friend can help or do for you in a few minutes
Last edited by 01tl4tl; 05-12-2011 at 01:43 AM.
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@01tl4tl
Iknoe I want to but for some reason they all seem really angry with new post being made. I tried the search button through google but not getting the results I am looking for. Sorry for busting in on another section. did not plan to really focus on seafoam, but rather just make 1 or 2 comments on the topic.
Iknoe I want to but for some reason they all seem really angry with new post being made. I tried the search button through google but not getting the results I am looking for. Sorry for busting in on another section. did not plan to really focus on seafoam, but rather just make 1 or 2 comments on the topic.
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@01tl4tl
Iknoe I want to but for some reason they all seem really angry with new post being made. I tried the search button through google but not getting the results I am looking for. Sorry for busting in on another section. did not plan to really focus on seafoam, but rather just make 1 or 2 comments on the topic.
Iknoe I want to but for some reason they all seem really angry with new post being made. I tried the search button through google but not getting the results I am looking for. Sorry for busting in on another section. did not plan to really focus on seafoam, but rather just make 1 or 2 comments on the topic.
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Mando, try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ1wpO6Oj8E
It looks pretty similar to 2gen TLs. Google "2005 tl seafoam" and you'll get all sorts of hits. Usually google is better for searching Acurazine than the Acurazine search but it didn't get a lot of hits - maybe the 3gen guys aren't as "into it" as we are ...
It looks pretty similar to 2gen TLs. Google "2005 tl seafoam" and you'll get all sorts of hits. Usually google is better for searching Acurazine than the Acurazine search but it didn't get a lot of hits - maybe the 3gen guys aren't as "into it" as we are ...
Last edited by 03tl-s04mdx; 05-12-2011 at 10:15 AM.
#36
I helped write the gen2 and gen3 'foam diys~
as long as you try search and scrolled thru the main and problem sections for your answer
then new post are no prob
If you ask the same question we have all answered 4 thousand times already,,,
and a main thread on the subject is 2 lines below your new post...
then you may get some 'tude..but its in good nature
the seafoam procedure is the same between gens, the only thing that changes is exact location and direction the metal tube from TB is set--that you put seafoam into.
Note: its SO much easier to control with a self made spray or deep creep can,,
sip sip sucks!! spray spray rocks!
I used to spend time in gen3 after working on local ziners car- seeing whats the same
but if I got one little thing wrong because 2 and 3 differ- how those dramas do unfold~
so I hang with my own kind now
next car not a gen3 or 4-not impressed with them-see their prob sections for why!
a caddy cts would be nice
as long as you try search and scrolled thru the main and problem sections for your answer
then new post are no prob
If you ask the same question we have all answered 4 thousand times already,,,
and a main thread on the subject is 2 lines below your new post...
then you may get some 'tude..but its in good nature
the seafoam procedure is the same between gens, the only thing that changes is exact location and direction the metal tube from TB is set--that you put seafoam into.
Note: its SO much easier to control with a self made spray or deep creep can,,
sip sip sucks!! spray spray rocks!
I used to spend time in gen3 after working on local ziners car- seeing whats the same
but if I got one little thing wrong because 2 and 3 differ- how those dramas do unfold~
so I hang with my own kind now
next car not a gen3 or 4-not impressed with them-see their prob sections for why!
a caddy cts would be nice
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just ck'd the vid--good instruction except needs throttle held up by helper in gen3 (fly by wire throttle) while we can use our hand to manipulate the return spring/cable assembly to keep about 1000-1200 (plus the 2000rpm sets)--
the springs also needs some clean and lube= that sprayed seafoam will do
other prob on vid is end- says ok to rev in driveway NOOOOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOO
dont do that!!
see my many post on the subject of restart after 10-15 minute percolate time.
More time than that allows too much cat and engine cool off= we want to make heat right away and keep crud `liquified` (seafoams description) and blown out the system
Note the smoke is really oils in seafoam reacting to heat in cat- not indicative of actual dirt level...no smoke means no heat --not no dirt!
the springs also needs some clean and lube= that sprayed seafoam will do
other prob on vid is end- says ok to rev in driveway NOOOOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOO
dont do that!!
see my many post on the subject of restart after 10-15 minute percolate time.
More time than that allows too much cat and engine cool off= we want to make heat right away and keep crud `liquified` (seafoams description) and blown out the system
Note the smoke is really oils in seafoam reacting to heat in cat- not indicative of actual dirt level...no smoke means no heat --not no dirt!
#38
Mando what were your intended comments? beside question of `what brand of seafoam`-- lol--sorry tooooo funny to those familiar with the product
do some net research on seafoam- a chemical engineer working on personal project to clean the sea salt crud from outboard boat engine carbs-offshore ocean racing is murder on them
Found the right amounts of 3 very basic ingredient oils- each with a specific task, soften/liquify-clean-lubricate
that has been a mechanics favorite for 50+ years with no change to the formula except when govt thing about coloring agents changed-- so seafoam removed the dye..now it looks like kerosene..same ol stuff
techs will often use it to remove carbon and establish a baseline of cars situation from there
when carbon loaded its going to run poorly
do some net research on seafoam- a chemical engineer working on personal project to clean the sea salt crud from outboard boat engine carbs-offshore ocean racing is murder on them
Found the right amounts of 3 very basic ingredient oils- each with a specific task, soften/liquify-clean-lubricate
that has been a mechanics favorite for 50+ years with no change to the formula except when govt thing about coloring agents changed-- so seafoam removed the dye..now it looks like kerosene..same ol stuff
techs will often use it to remove carbon and establish a baseline of cars situation from there
when carbon loaded its going to run poorly