Confessions of a chronic VTEC addict: Volvo S60 high-speed race.
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Confessions of a chronic VTEC addict: Volvo S60 high-speed race.
Folks, I have not had the time to share “post worthy” events but I have to confess this VTEC addiction thing I am struggling with has got a hold of me and I believe worthy of sharing. I apologize in advance because this story is a little long. Just to preface this, I bought my blk-on-blk ’00 TL-P in Nov ’03 and absolutely love it. I just can’t stop driving it. This is my first automatic tranny and I think SS is just too much fun. Back in the day I’ve owned a blk 16V VW GTI, then a red ‘95 RX7 w/headers and free flow exhaust (my true love). I had a speed bug that got me into trouble as well (driving points). At one point the judge deemed me to be a chronic offender. I got married in ’96…kids, yadda, yadda….next thing you know I’m in a new Honda Accord, and I have had 3 Honda Accords in the last 7 years. The TL has brought back my racing spirit. I feel like the guy in that commercial volunteering to go anywhere. My wife wants me to go to the store 5 times a day, “no problem Hun, can I get you an ice coffee too?”… pick up paper towels, a quick blockbuster run, anything to get me in the car. You guys no the drill. To diffuse a spousal dispute, I’ll take it out on the windy road by a lake called Spot Pond road and ride VTEC between 2nd and 3rd gear for 2 or 3 laps, or take it on the freeway and hunt for a G35, A6, Accord, whatever it takes for high speed race. This has become an addiction, again. To make matters worse I have a daily 72-mile commute each way on route 495 (a long three lane road) everyday. I get to my office in ~40 minutes, avg speed ~95mph.
I apologize for being long winded, but please indulge me further as I am almost finished with this story.
In the last couple of weeks I have come to realize that VTEC= V8, as my MPG has been pretty low and my gas expense increasingly high. I attribute this to all the VTEC’ing I am doing. I find it way to easy to hit VTEC. As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring.
I was just starting to adjust to my new normal driving demeanor until I got hi-beamed by a guy on a Suzuki motorcycle this morning on the rte 495 commute. In a moment of unconsciousness and pure reflex, I throw it into SS, down 2 clicks to 3rd, and up 1 click to 4th @ 104mph, and I didn’t slow down till I hit 120mph and he is a speck in the mirror. He obviously was not trying to race, or he would have passed me easily. I switch over to the middle lane, slow it down to 75mph, and out of nowhere this Volvo S60 pulls up on my left and wants to play too. He caught me off guard while I was in 4th so he’s pulling away quickly. At this point I have already lost my self-control and start the chase. I’m at 115mph but he is 10 cars length ahead. We approach a small traffic jam ahead and both slow down. I catch up, pull next to him and nod with a smile. He nods back while talking on his Nextel. Well, I got a little annoyed that he blew by me at 100+mph, but to be on a Nextel while doing it (probably bragging about it smoking a TL) was not expectable to me.
We cruise through traffic for a 1/2 mile until I see an opening. Quick click to 2nd, than 3rd, flank far right, than far left, and I’m gone while he is stuck in the traffic hole. I pull out far enough to slow it back down to 3rd to 90mph just to set him up. I light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it for about 6 miles. I get it to 120mph and he’s still ~4 car lengths behind me. This goes on for a stretch of 10 miles. Now I am weaving between cars, riding 3rd @ 90-100mph (which I am pretty good at, IMO)…. I see another opening, and I’m gone again 4th gear @115mph.
I see him in the rear view trying to wind out of the hole I left him in. My exit was coming up in a ¼ mile so I slow down as he coming up behind me, and wave him “asta la vista”. The S60 should have new respect for the TL.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a fairly safe driver, but I like to speed. I am not reckless, but this VTEC owns me. Is there an AA program for VTEC owners? Anyone have tips on self-control?
BTW I just ordered my UR SS pulleys, so this is definitely not going to get easier for me.
JAG:: Blk’00 TL-P w/2002 rear lights (temporarily stock)
I apologize for being long winded, but please indulge me further as I am almost finished with this story.
In the last couple of weeks I have come to realize that VTEC= V8, as my MPG has been pretty low and my gas expense increasingly high. I attribute this to all the VTEC’ing I am doing. I find it way to easy to hit VTEC. As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring.
I was just starting to adjust to my new normal driving demeanor until I got hi-beamed by a guy on a Suzuki motorcycle this morning on the rte 495 commute. In a moment of unconsciousness and pure reflex, I throw it into SS, down 2 clicks to 3rd, and up 1 click to 4th @ 104mph, and I didn’t slow down till I hit 120mph and he is a speck in the mirror. He obviously was not trying to race, or he would have passed me easily. I switch over to the middle lane, slow it down to 75mph, and out of nowhere this Volvo S60 pulls up on my left and wants to play too. He caught me off guard while I was in 4th so he’s pulling away quickly. At this point I have already lost my self-control and start the chase. I’m at 115mph but he is 10 cars length ahead. We approach a small traffic jam ahead and both slow down. I catch up, pull next to him and nod with a smile. He nods back while talking on his Nextel. Well, I got a little annoyed that he blew by me at 100+mph, but to be on a Nextel while doing it (probably bragging about it smoking a TL) was not expectable to me.
We cruise through traffic for a 1/2 mile until I see an opening. Quick click to 2nd, than 3rd, flank far right, than far left, and I’m gone while he is stuck in the traffic hole. I pull out far enough to slow it back down to 3rd to 90mph just to set him up. I light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it for about 6 miles. I get it to 120mph and he’s still ~4 car lengths behind me. This goes on for a stretch of 10 miles. Now I am weaving between cars, riding 3rd @ 90-100mph (which I am pretty good at, IMO)…. I see another opening, and I’m gone again 4th gear @115mph.
I see him in the rear view trying to wind out of the hole I left him in. My exit was coming up in a ¼ mile so I slow down as he coming up behind me, and wave him “asta la vista”. The S60 should have new respect for the TL.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a fairly safe driver, but I like to speed. I am not reckless, but this VTEC owns me. Is there an AA program for VTEC owners? Anyone have tips on self-control?
BTW I just ordered my UR SS pulleys, so this is definitely not going to get easier for me.
JAG:: Blk’00 TL-P w/2002 rear lights (temporarily stock)
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Excellent! Enjoy safely. I have 7500 miles on my '03 TLS and I feel like I drive it like shit, I mean popping it in 2nd - 3rd all the time, get the RPM jumping and then slip to 4th and double step the accelerator to get the RPM going. Its f'ing awesome. Something tells me my tranny will go faster. But I don't think 00 TL has any tranny issues, so enjoy with care.
BTW s60 is not a car to be fooled with especially the S60 T5 i Believe, I think its pushing 245 horses or so, with 240 lbs of torque. None the less, seems like you're having fun, next time you pull up to an S60, be careful he might just know how to drive, or be a little more crazier than yourself.
BTW s60 is not a car to be fooled with especially the S60 T5 i Believe, I think its pushing 245 horses or so, with 240 lbs of torque. None the less, seems like you're having fun, next time you pull up to an S60, be careful he might just know how to drive, or be a little more crazier than yourself.
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Originally Posted by ajNYHC
Excellent! Enjoy safely. I have 7500 miles on my '03 TLS and I feel like I drive it like shit, I mean popping it in 2nd - 3rd all the time, get the RPM jumping and then slip to 4th and double step the accelerator to get the RPM going. Its f'ing awesome. Something tells me my tranny will go faster. But I don't think 00 TL has any tranny issues, so enjoy with care.
BTW s60 is not a car to be fooled with especially the S60 T5 i Believe, I think its pushing 245 horses or so, with 240 lbs of torque. None the less, seems like you're having fun, next time you pull up to an S60, be careful he might just know how to drive, or be a little more crazier than yourself.
BTW s60 is not a car to be fooled with especially the S60 T5 i Believe, I think its pushing 245 horses or so, with 240 lbs of torque. None the less, seems like you're having fun, next time you pull up to an S60, be careful he might just know how to drive, or be a little more crazier than yourself.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
You drive an '00 TL-P... it isn't THAT fast that you should be "hunting" for G35s.
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Originally Posted by JAG
I light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it
hehe
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Don't forget: Drivers win races, not the cars.
Good story.
too bad my tickets that i've pasted on the liner of my car have shown me what speeding does to me LOL
07-22-2004, 05:44 PM
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I have learned my lesson and have lost two out of three races to G35's. That is why the UR Pulleys are on the way. Don't forget: Drivers win races, not the cars.
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Originally Posted by jayhawk815
Well, yes, but to a point. The UR Pulleys don't do THAT much for our cars, don't know why you're gettin so excited.
Dyno proven.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
ugh.... you're right 8-13 whp and 10 lbs/ft throughout the powerband doesn't do THAT much Dyno proven.
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light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it for about 6 miles.
HAHAHA You are the SHIT my friend
hahahahahah oh my
Tone it down there clint hahahaha
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HAHAHA You are the SHIT my friend
hahahahahah oh my
Tone it down there clint hahahaha
i love this guy
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Originally Posted by JAG
Actually the UR SS 3 piece mod provides the most gain of any single mod, excluding NOS or S/C. Not to mention the rev time is much faster with the lighter crank.
I know, I was using sarcasm
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...To make matters worse I have a daily 72-mile commute each way on route 495 (a long three lane road) everyday. I get to my office in ~40 minutes, avg speed ~95mph...
...As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring...
...As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring...
But...for a daily commute of 72-miles ONE WAY?! That's INSANE!
With that kind of distance, I'd be in heaven if I can make it to my office in ~40 minutes going 90+ MPH. My commute is ~35-miels one way and I'd be lucky to make it in 40 minutes.
The one concern I can see is that with your driving habbits...wouldnt' you think that statistics will eventually catch up? Before the UR pulleys, I'd first go through the list of preventative mods like...radar detector...laser shifter...license plate photoblocker...tire pressure monitor...as well as probably switching to sythetic oil?
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not to be a party pooper, but weaving in and out of traffic at 85-90mph is idiotic! Considering that you have a wife and kids, it's that much more stupid. Imagine if someone else was driving like that on the freeway and they were to hit your wife/kids. Would suck huh? Or how about you wreck your car, and your kids are now bastards? That probably wouldn't be as bad as if it didn't kill you, but instead paralyzed you.
IMHO, take it to the track. Weaving in and out of traffic is dumb and unsafe. You are not a "good/superior" driver at this rate. You are just the bigger idiot than the other person that doesn't dare weave in and out like you. Basically, it's who has the bigger "balls" to do this.
Anyhow, not here to pick on you or anything. Just venting as I see this kind of talk a lot on the TL forum. I see less of this "type" of talk on what you would expect on the "ricer" forums. (ie, WRX, Honda/Integra, etc).
IMHO, take it to the track. Weaving in and out of traffic is dumb and unsafe. You are not a "good/superior" driver at this rate. You are just the bigger idiot than the other person that doesn't dare weave in and out like you. Basically, it's who has the bigger "balls" to do this.
Anyhow, not here to pick on you or anything. Just venting as I see this kind of talk a lot on the TL forum. I see less of this "type" of talk on what you would expect on the "ricer" forums. (ie, WRX, Honda/Integra, etc).
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Originally Posted by JAG
Folks, I have not had the time to share “post worthy” events but I have to confess this VTEC addiction thing I am struggling with has got a hold of me and I believe worthy of sharing. I apologize in advance because this story is a little long. Just to preface this, I bought my blk-on-blk ’00 TL-P in Nov ’03 and absolutely love it. I just can’t stop driving it. This is my first automatic tranny and I think SS is just too much fun. Back in the day I’ve owned a blk 16V VW GTI, then a red ‘95 RX7 w/headers and free flow exhaust (my true love). I had a speed bug that got me into trouble as well (driving points). At one point the judge deemed me to be a chronic offender. I got married in ’96…kids, yadda, yadda….next thing you know I’m in a new Honda Accord, and I have had 3 Honda Accords in the last 7 years. The TL has brought back my racing spirit. I feel like the guy in that commercial volunteering to go anywhere. My wife wants me to go to the store 5 times a day, “no problem Hun, can I get you an ice coffee too?”… pick up paper towels, a quick blockbuster run, anything to get me in the car. You guys no the drill. To diffuse a spousal dispute, I’ll take it out on the windy road by a lake called Spot Pond road and ride VTEC between 2nd and 3rd gear for 2 or 3 laps, or take it on the freeway and hunt for a G35, A6, Accord, whatever it takes for high speed race. This has become an addiction, again. To make matters worse I have a daily 72-mile commute each way on route 495 (a long three lane road) everyday. I get to my office in ~40 minutes, avg speed ~95mph.
I apologize for being long winded, but please indulge me further as I am almost finished with this story.
In the last couple of weeks I have come to realize that VTEC= V8, as my MPG has been pretty low and my gas expense increasingly high. I attribute this to all the VTEC’ing I am doing. I find it way to easy to hit VTEC. As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring.
I was just starting to adjust to my new normal driving demeanor until I got hi-beamed by a guy on a Suzuki motorcycle this morning on the rte 495 commute. In a moment of unconsciousness and pure reflex, I throw it into SS, down 2 clicks to 3rd, and up 1 click to 4th @ 104mph, and I didn’t slow down till I hit 120mph and he is a speck in the mirror. He obviously was not trying to race, or he would have passed me easily. I switch over to the middle lane, slow it down to 75mph, and out of nowhere this Volvo S60 pulls up on my left and wants to play too. He caught me off guard while I was in 4th so he’s pulling away quickly. At this point I have already lost my self-control and start the chase. I’m at 115mph but he is 10 cars length ahead. We approach a small traffic jam ahead and both slow down. I catch up, pull next to him and nod with a smile. He nods back while talking on his Nextel. Well, I got a little annoyed that he blew by me at 100+mph, but to be on a Nextel while doing it (probably bragging about it smoking a TL) was not expectable to me.
We cruise through traffic for a 1/2 mile until I see an opening. Quick click to 2nd, than 3rd, flank far right, than far left, and I’m gone while he is stuck in the traffic hole. I pull out far enough to slow it back down to 3rd to 90mph just to set him up. I light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it for about 6 miles. I get it to 120mph and he’s still ~4 car lengths behind me. This goes on for a stretch of 10 miles. Now I am weaving between cars, riding 3rd @ 90-100mph (which I am pretty good at, IMO)…. I see another opening, and I’m gone again 4th gear @115mph.
I see him in the rear view trying to wind out of the hole I left him in. My exit was coming up in a ¼ mile so I slow down as he coming up behind me, and wave him “asta la vista”. The S60 should have new respect for the TL.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a fairly safe driver, but I like to speed. I am not reckless, but this VTEC owns me. Is there an AA program for VTEC owners? Anyone have tips on self-control?
BTW I just ordered my UR SS pulleys, so this is definitely not going to get easier for me.
JAG:: Blk’00 TL-P w/2002 rear lights (temporarily stock)
I apologize for being long winded, but please indulge me further as I am almost finished with this story.
In the last couple of weeks I have come to realize that VTEC= V8, as my MPG has been pretty low and my gas expense increasingly high. I attribute this to all the VTEC’ing I am doing. I find it way to easy to hit VTEC. As of Monday I made a commitment to my wallet ($60 bucks/wk on fuel) and my conscience to drive like a civilized person and keep it in “auto-mode” for a while, which I find really, really boring.
I was just starting to adjust to my new normal driving demeanor until I got hi-beamed by a guy on a Suzuki motorcycle this morning on the rte 495 commute. In a moment of unconsciousness and pure reflex, I throw it into SS, down 2 clicks to 3rd, and up 1 click to 4th @ 104mph, and I didn’t slow down till I hit 120mph and he is a speck in the mirror. He obviously was not trying to race, or he would have passed me easily. I switch over to the middle lane, slow it down to 75mph, and out of nowhere this Volvo S60 pulls up on my left and wants to play too. He caught me off guard while I was in 4th so he’s pulling away quickly. At this point I have already lost my self-control and start the chase. I’m at 115mph but he is 10 cars length ahead. We approach a small traffic jam ahead and both slow down. I catch up, pull next to him and nod with a smile. He nods back while talking on his Nextel. Well, I got a little annoyed that he blew by me at 100+mph, but to be on a Nextel while doing it (probably bragging about it smoking a TL) was not expectable to me.
We cruise through traffic for a 1/2 mile until I see an opening. Quick click to 2nd, than 3rd, flank far right, than far left, and I’m gone while he is stuck in the traffic hole. I pull out far enough to slow it back down to 3rd to 90mph just to set him up. I light a cigarette and wait for him to catch up. In true Hollywood style, as soon as he got within one car length, I flick the cigarette down on the road, and gunned it for about 6 miles. I get it to 120mph and he’s still ~4 car lengths behind me. This goes on for a stretch of 10 miles. Now I am weaving between cars, riding 3rd @ 90-100mph (which I am pretty good at, IMO)…. I see another opening, and I’m gone again 4th gear @115mph.
I see him in the rear view trying to wind out of the hole I left him in. My exit was coming up in a ¼ mile so I slow down as he coming up behind me, and wave him “asta la vista”. The S60 should have new respect for the TL.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a fairly safe driver, but I like to speed. I am not reckless, but this VTEC owns me. Is there an AA program for VTEC owners? Anyone have tips on self-control?
BTW I just ordered my UR SS pulleys, so this is definitely not going to get easier for me.
JAG:: Blk’00 TL-P w/2002 rear lights (temporarily stock)
maybe im wrong, but isnt goin 90 in 3rd REAL close to redline?!
07-23-2004, 02:44 AM
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maybe im wrong, but isnt goin 90 in 3rd REAL close to redline?!
hehe jppp!
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The Volvo S60R pumps out like 300hp and 290lb-ft... It's the fastest Volvo as far as I'm concerned as it does 0-60 in about 5.8 sec and 1/4 in 13.8ish. I think it's AWD or RWD too making it even nicer.
I never really cared for Volvos at all, but the S60R is awesome with it's 6SP tranny..
I never really cared for Volvos at all, but the S60R is awesome with it's 6SP tranny..
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Originally Posted by Dark DJ
i thought they were just for kicks! :o
07-23-2004, 01:51 PM
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would AEM pulleys do the same or are UR pulleys alot better? where could i find UR Pulleys?
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AEM pulleys are just for looks. The UR pulley is what makes power because the crank pulley is smaller so it underdrives the crank, plus it is MUCH lighter.
Do a search, many vendors sell the pulleys.
Do a search, many vendors sell the pulleys.
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Originally Posted by bacardi151
The Volvo S60R pumps out like 300hp and 290lb-ft... It's the fastest Volvo as far as I'm concerned as it does 0-60 in about 5.8 sec and 1/4 in 13.8ish. I think it's AWD or RWD too making it even nicer.
I never really cared for Volvos at all, but the S60R is awesome with it's 6SP tranny..
I never really cared for Volvos at all, but the S60R is awesome with it's 6SP tranny..
its actually AWD.. i was looking at picking up one a few weeks back but decided not to... although its a fast car its not a very good ride and well the interior really sucked...
i ended up buying a 2004 IS300 instead... it may not have as much power but there is great potential in the motor!
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Originally Posted by edgalang
First of all...I must commend you on your story. It is very well written (considering the other type of posts I see) and is very entertaining as well.
But...for a daily commute of 72-miles ONE WAY?! That's INSANE!
With that kind of distance, I'd be in heaven if I can make it to my office in ~40 minutes going 90+ MPH. My commute is ~35-miels one way and I'd be lucky to make it in 40 minutes.
The one concern I can see is that with your driving habbits...wouldnt' you think that statistics will eventually catch up? Before the UR pulleys, I'd first go through the list of preventative mods like...radar detector...laser shifter...license plate photoblocker...tire pressure monitor...as well as probably switching to sythetic oil?
But...for a daily commute of 72-miles ONE WAY?! That's INSANE!
With that kind of distance, I'd be in heaven if I can make it to my office in ~40 minutes going 90+ MPH. My commute is ~35-miels one way and I'd be lucky to make it in 40 minutes.
The one concern I can see is that with your driving habbits...wouldnt' you think that statistics will eventually catch up? Before the UR pulleys, I'd first go through the list of preventative mods like...radar detector...laser shifter...license plate photoblocker...tire pressure monitor...as well as probably switching to sythetic oil?
And it really helps to know the road just like being intimate with a race track. But I appreciate the advise.
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Originally Posted by yoda
not to be a party pooper, but weaving in and out of traffic at 85-90mph is idiotic! Considering that you have a wife and kids, it's that much more stupid. Imagine if someone else was driving like that on the freeway and they were to hit your wife/kids. Would suck huh? Or how about you wreck your car, and your kids are now bastards? That probably wouldn't be as bad as if it didn't kill you, but instead paralyzed you.
IMHO, take it to the track. Weaving in and out of traffic is dumb and unsafe. You are not a "good/superior" driver at this rate. You are just the bigger idiot than the other person that doesn't dare weave in and out like you. Basically, it's who has the bigger "balls" to do this.
Anyhow, not here to pick on you or anything. Just venting as I see this kind of talk a lot on the TL forum. I see less of this "type" of talk on what you would expect on the "ricer" forums. (ie, WRX, Honda/Integra, etc).
IMHO, take it to the track. Weaving in and out of traffic is dumb and unsafe. You are not a "good/superior" driver at this rate. You are just the bigger idiot than the other person that doesn't dare weave in and out like you. Basically, it's who has the bigger "balls" to do this.
Anyhow, not here to pick on you or anything. Just venting as I see this kind of talk a lot on the TL forum. I see less of this "type" of talk on what you would expect on the "ricer" forums. (ie, WRX, Honda/Integra, etc).
Don't be so judgemental. I know you mean well, but you have the impression that I am reckless fool. I am actually very cautious and more than my own life, I love my wife and kids and do not plan on dying in a car wreck. I just happen to feel a lot safer at high speed than just cruising at 60mph. I do not just weave in and out like a drunken high school kid. I drive defensively and IMO the speed provides me with more control and helps to avoid other vehicles. I am not saying I am immune to an accident, but I resent the "idiot" comment. I do have issues with folks that buy and drive perfomance vehicles and drive them like Model T antiques. Drive spirited and have some fun, once in a while!