F=ma

Damn this thread is long but quite informative. Check out MoMoney...

http://superhonda.org/board/showthre...9&pagenumber=1

If you're a lazy fool, among much other helpful information Maurice told us that after speaking with Comptech, Mike B and others, that the Target release date of the V6 SC is September '01, That's a bit earlier than I expected. And Target price is 3 grand. Wow that ain't bad... I was expecting 5-6. Whew.



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Kenny
TL

Tann@808

YEAH BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN"T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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tann@808-'00 TL
non-Navi(Doesn't work in Hawaii)

Factory body kit & Wing, 19" Racing Hart C-5's,
Nitto 555's, CompTech Springs, CompTech Exhaust,
AEM CAI, Alpine 8080, TL rear door handles in front,
5% + 30% tints,30% front windshield.
tann@pixi.com

TLon19s

Give it to me BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

JYOO

How much HP and lb ft of torque will it add?
I bet if vortech made one for us it would add more. Probably not alot of HP cuz its probably a roots blower.

grksfinest

by any chance is there going to be 96 -98 application for this supercharger

Rice1304

How can you put so much power to the FRONT wheels, esp in a 260 hp type S TL, with a weak trany?

valuetl

I wonder if it will even be avail. for any type s models due to their higher compression ratio. Anyone have more info like is a intercooler included or a aftermarket ecu?? Give me some performance numbers

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00 non navi TL Firepepper red/ebony, Value Sports Kit, Saber Foglamps, Factory rear spoiler, Gold and wood kits, wood wheel, 18" Altstadt's + Dunlop SP9000's, Apexi exhaust, A'pexi coilovers. Next up hyper catback

bombs

transmission life is going to be a real problem unless you drop a NXS trans in place

valuetl

Do you guys read that the SC will bolt on the top of the engine SWEET. That will look awesome, can't wait. So much for my audio plans.

ChaosityZ

is it just me? or does everyone here see that the other people on the superhonda post talk like elementary school gansta wannabees? I mean they all say dumb things like "momoney u da man." Big difference here, maybe cause we have more mature cars? =)

JYOO

Hey chaosity, Im in the everett area too. What color is your TL? Any mods?

AcuraTL

I don't think so. The Type S use the same transmission and a Type S with I/H/E, they will be pushing 300hp to the crank.

Rice1304

They do. That's why I don't go to that place much. It perturbs me. However, when I go to parties I talk like that.

Nate

rice u da man! a'ight dogg

F=ma

I agree, The accord guys freak out with their tranny's because they are weak, One fella, here in Atlanta actually, has his 2nd gear slipping as he makes 280 hp to the crank... So imagine that, 80 hp over the stock hp. Take a Type S since, it shares the same tranny, we'd have to be making 340 hp before we ever saw any tranny slipping, If we ever had to worry about that, I think we'd have bigger issues to worry about.... like whooping some GS400 and 540i ass.

AcuraTL

I don't think so. The Type S use the same transmission and a Type S with I/H/E, they will be pushing 300hp to the crank.

GIMMICK

Kenny - You didn't dig deep enough try this thread.
http://superhonda.org/board/showthre...threadid=56074

For those too lazy to read I'll sum up some of what was discussed. Comptech originally thought of designing a roots-type blower that will replace the intake manifold. However due to space constraints, Comptech has opted to go another route. They'll be looking into a centrifugal supercharger that will sit on the driver side of the engine bay and pull the power from the other side where the belts are. This will require designing a shaft that will run across the front of the engine. It'll be similar in design to the Vortech SC for the Civic Si. This is actually better for Comptech since they won't have to manufacture different intake manifolds for the different V6 (Accord, TL & CL). This means shorter lead time and lower prices.

GIMMICK

I don't like what I'm reading from some of you guys here . . . no need to bash on my Superhonda brothers. If that is all you guys get from that thread, then I question which is the more "mature" audience. I mean, was it that hard for you to read past those remarks that you had to come here generalize and criticize the members of that board. If you have nothing constructive to say, then don't say anything at all. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but I felt that I had to stand up in defense of my Superhonda brothers (whom will very likely never see this thread anyway). I just thought to mention this before anymore bashing continues.

F=ma

I'm not on anyone's side regarding this so called maturity issue, but the fact of the matter is, they get sh*t done. Whatever it takes, mature or not, they, though email and calls and whatnot, got Energy Suspension to start making a Bushing kit for the Accord Chassis, and consequently our chassis as well. Its also the first place I heard of the Neuspeed Competition swaybar, (a whopping 25mm) and other things. Its where I found out that the Pulleys significantly improve power.

The SHO guys are really helpful, bottom line.

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Kenny
TL

valuetl

Even if they have to use the civic design driveshaft look at the horsepower gain on the civic 132 horse boast and 88 ft lbs torque. I'd be happy to pump out over 300 to 315 horses. At the wheels too!

TLinBama

I'm thinking that a Type S with I/H/E would need at least 235 size rubber to minimize torque steer even with VSA.

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John

2000 TL WDP Nav

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SLVR TL

So, which is it?? I know our tranny will wear out faster. but is it going to kill our tranny or not?????

How bad will the maintenance... replacement/ repair of a tranny be?

AcuraTL

I believe when Comptech design a product, it will design it in a way to work with factory components. I wouldn't worry about the tranny going out with the Comptech supercharger. Also, I believe Comptech will set the boost level pretty conservatively.

Fiddler

did any of u see after he installed the PROgram, his torque went up by 39lbs/ft at 2000 rpm!!!! thats like my dream. cause most driving is like 1500 - 3500 anyway.... now to find a dealer in the nj area.........
and i gotta save me $3k by september... woohoo

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1998 Accord EX V6 Coupe

magnetic1

Do you know what type of SC this is going to be? A centrifugal? Roots-Type? Im sure the boost will be tuned down for reliability... but it shouldnt be hard to turn it up either

But adding a SC greatly impacts the life of the trans and engine parts... but with the right mix... should be ok.

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Eric Wong
MY 01 Magnetic Red Corvette
GF 00 Black Accord V6
EX 99 Pontiac Grand Prix GTX

If you like me then

If you want to give me crap:

SLVR TL

hehehe... I hope so. Cuz I want one!
I hope they can make a switch to adjust the boost level.


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Y2K SiLVeR TL, non-navi
Factory style full body kit + spoiler
Volk Racing Versus Campionato SS7 18x7.5 52 offset w/ Toyo Proxes FZ4 225/40/18
H&R OEM Springs
PIAA 1700x w/ Inspire Foglight switch
Polarg M-12 Front turn signals
38% window tint all around
Valentine 1 w/ concealed display

TLon19s

Tommy from Acura Parts in Bellevue talked with the project manager @ Comptech. He said the plans are drawn but none have been produced or tested. They were looking probably a year from now or for the next SEMA show for the release.

NighthawkBlack

Isn't Mike B from comptech a member of this forum? Mike can you confirm this roots vortec vs eaton stuff?

BNut

A centrifugal SC will run circles around a roots type blower for high end HP. Plus all the rice boys can buy their HKS blow off valves so they can sound "cool". The article in SCC is very informative about the difference b/w the types of superchargers.

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Brian =B-)
2000 Accord LX V6 Sedan White - 3,310 lbs w/ driver - 170HP & 160ft/lbs
- Koni Yellows & Eibach Pro-Kit (1.5" drop)
- Red AEM Short RAM Intake (8-10hp & 5-6 ft/lbs gain on a DynoJet)
- Red AEM Tru Power Pulleys (10hp @ 5,600rpms & 11ft/lbs @ 4,600rpms gain on a DynoJet)
- 15.45 @ 88.8mph (Track) [with AEM intake/pulleys] 0-60mph 7.2 sec (G-Tech) [with intake/pulleys]

GIMMICK

Comptech will probably offer a tuned down SC so as not to reduce engine life significantly. But I would imagine if someone wanted to run the SC with a higher pressure all you'd have to do is get a custom pulley manufactured so that the SC could spin faster. Another, item worth mentioning is that Comptech is aware of potential problems with the Accord transmission. They're not quite sure yet how their project accord's transmission will hold up. Once they get to that point, and realize that the transmission is a problem, they'll most likely upgrade to a Level 10 tranny. Apparently, Honda has enlisted Level 10 to build them a transmission for their road race Accord. The stock tranny in the Accord is still a big question mark, but I salute Comptech in pursuing this project and not dismissing it like some other companies (**cough** Jackson Racing **cough**).

I think the TL will have better luck than the Accord with a SC as far as the transmission is concerned.

Stylin Silver Sled

I can't wait! The I/H/E combined with the Nitros i already have is a great combination...I am curious if I can still run the NOS with the supercharger. Anyone have insight into this setup? If i can run NOS and Supercharger I will be damn happy!

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Guest

My guess is that it will be a roots or Eaton type blower rather than a centrifugal blower, but it's way too early to say what the final design will be.