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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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Good set of Coilovers that won't destroy my ride or my wallet?
00' TL
Freshly rebuilt engine from 213k
Just spend 4 grand on that so that's most of my pocket change. Haha


And I was thinking these would look nice on a drop

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 02:23 AM
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The only coil-overs that wont destroy your Wallet are the FFs but if you have some kind of love for any decent ride you wont fall into that misery pit.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 06:23 AM
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^^Not true. Best bang for the buck now is Godspeed.

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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You have them on your ride?
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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We have the TEIN Street Basis available for $531 for the 2G TL. It's hard to beat that price for a quality set of coilovers!

TEIN Dampers - Street Basis - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HairyMonkey019




He said "Wont break the Wallet" at 700 bucks its already destroyed.... You can get TEINs for much cheaper and the FF1s are still as cheap as TEINs.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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Retail is $700.
Read my signature, I'll get it for MUCH better.

Name another set of fully threaded, mono tube, stainless steel, 16 way dampening coilovers that is $650>.

Teins aren't comparable.
-Partially threaded, pre load=ride height
-Steel + coating
-Twin tube, which means ride quality differs depending on the road

Right now, I have ff1,but will be swapping over to GSP.

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:00 PM
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^ hehehe sounds like you want to sell stuff...
Regardless of that 700 bucks is still expensive for features he wont likely use anyway. A lot of guys just want Coil-overs to adjust height at will.


And you said full threaded? I wonder why would I need more than half shock thread? Do I want to completely remove my suspension movement?

Also why would you say Twin Tube as it was a bad thing? Twin Tubes are preferred on a Daily Driver since they are the Most Reponsive! You want Mono-tubes on the track were Body Roll and Dampening Speed is Critical not on the street man. That is why most consumer grade shocks are Twin Tubes that doesn't make them bad, they just are down to earth. Unless he´s gonna go Auto X all day the Mono Tubes are going to SUCK on a DD the Dampening is too fast and harsh for the common road on a car as heavy as the TL which is basically a giant boat for a Mono-Tube...

The FF1 are Twin Tubes but that doesn't mean they are bad, They are just terribly tuned Hence the Terrible Ride.

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:18 PM
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FYI all our AWESOME! Aftermarket Shocks from brands like:


TEIN
KONI
TOKICO
FF


They are all Twin Tubes for a reason.

Who makes Monotubes?
GSP
XLR8 ISC
And too lazy to search more but I believe some KONIs and TEINs compatible shocks also come in Monotubes but are a bitch to find. But as far as I Know they are all Track Intended.

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 04:32 AM
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I may be on the hussle, but it's not just to make chump change side money. Godspeed has currently been on the rise.

Go on Ebay, ff1 and gsp are the same price, why wouldn't you want all those features?

"Introducing the Godspeed Project Mono-SS coilover. The Mono-SS series is a new addition to our Godspeed Project suspension line and offers the bare minimum for what we believe an after-market coilover system should be without sacrificing reliability, quality and performance. Featuring a Mono-Tube shock, this series is built more for consumers who are on a budget but want the best bang for their buck. For a much more comfortable ride the Mono-SS all come with a Poly Urethane bushing in both the top hat and lower bracket for an improved ride instead of a spherical bearing which can be too stiff and noisy for some. The Mono-SS also caters to consumers who will be driving their cars on the daily and also occasional track days through the year. The Mono-SS is 16 way adjustable which allows you to fine tune the shock dampening to your liking. Whether you are driving 50 miles to work or setting a new personal best record on a local race track the Mono-SS will provide you with the performance you need to get the job done!"


The reason you want fully threaded coilovers vs partial threaded is so that pre-load and ride height adjustment are adjusted seperately. IDK why anyone would want partial threaded coilovers. With the GSP you can adjust preload the way you want to, unlike FF1.

Mono tube is better for the fact you have a consistent stiffness under load rather than one having performance fade.

GSP is NOT just meant for the track, but also intended for daily driving.

Don't say those coilovers are intended for the track, especially since you only named entry-level coilovers.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:04 AM
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you cannot adjust ride height ` at will` as if its a 10 minute job by itself
every time you adjust the height, its off to the alignment shop to compensate for the change
That's fine if you went to place with `lifetime repeat adjustments` at no charge, otherwise 50-75 bucks every time

For most drivers- they set the height once and forget about it, as long as the tires don't rub = its good there
As for the number of adjustments to dampening rebound, thats how much oil is allowed thru the ports to extend shock back after a bump compresses it

My Tein SS have 16 settings, and I rarely touch them unless going on a serious mountain backroads fun day or track day, then its full stiff setting

Regular use= I run a bit under half to have a reasonable ride, still hops over bumps rather than wallowing thru them like OE struts, but doesn't jar the spine so bad
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:07 AM
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Note If you want to be a vendor on azine you need to talk with Astro

Selling parts you own and didn't use- or used parts for the TL is fine in `private sales` thread area, mass/professional sales are a different matter
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:10 AM
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anyone with polyurethane bushings will tell you they don't make for a smooth or soft ride- they are stiff
ie: see swap to poly sway bar bushings or drive a car with them, yikes!
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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I would be very careful on how you market GSP
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HairyMonkey019
I may be on the hussle, but it's not just to make chump change side money. Godspeed has currently been on the rise.

Go on Ebay, ff1 and gsp are the same price, why wouldn't you want all those features?

"Introducing the Godspeed Project Mono-SS coilover. The Mono-SS series is a new addition to our Godspeed Project suspension line and offers the bare minimum for what we believe an after-market coilover system should be without sacrificing reliability, quality and performance. Featuring a Mono-Tube shock, this series is built more for consumers who are on a budget but want the best bang for their buck. For a much more comfortable ride the Mono-SS all come with a Poly Urethane bushing in both the top hat and lower bracket for an improved ride instead of a spherical bearing which can be too stiff and noisy for some. The Mono-SS also caters to consumers who will be driving their cars on the daily and also occasional track days through the year. The Mono-SS is 16 way adjustable which allows you to fine tune the shock dampening to your liking. Whether you are driving 50 miles to work or setting a new personal best record on a local race track the Mono-SS will provide you with the performance you need to get the job done!"


The reason you want fully threaded coilovers vs partial threaded is so that pre-load and ride height adjustment are adjusted seperately. IDK why anyone would want partial threaded coilovers. With the GSP you can adjust preload the way you want to, unlike FF1.

Mono tube is better for the fact you have a consistent stiffness under load rather than one having performance fade.

GSP is NOT just meant for the track, but also intended for daily driving.

Don't say those coilovers are intended for the track, especially since you only named entry-level coilovers.





I say it because I studied shock design since I actually do Auto X and Touge, I don't slam my cars for looks
GSP are OBVIOUSLY, SCREAMING, TRACK USE! Everywhere.... Also AGAIN MONOTUBES = TRACK SHOCKs. Unless you buy them for an SUV or Truck which most of them use Monotubes for off road. A Luxury Sedan like the TL uses Twin Tubes as OEM and Monotubes as an Upgrade for Track.


Please Hairy PLEASE don't say Twin Tubes have performance Fade PLEASE!! Its quite obvious you are repeating stuff you read online! I've seen countless of cars in Auto X using Twin Tubes with no issue what-so-ever. They actually like the feel of Twin Tubes over the Lifeless Monotube.

So GSP are High End Coil-overs now? Do you know how much a REAL Racing Coilover cost? GSP is selling medium end at most coil-over. A single racing coil over with remote piggyback dampening control cost more than the whole GSP Package.

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 07:48 PM
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GSP are not high end coilovers, never even said that. I said these were entry level, along with the other brands you mentioned.

Yes, I know how much high end coilovers cost, minimum is $3,000, then sky rockets from there depending on application.

A big reason why they aren't really well known is because they are a young company that focused more on performance parts, but are now making changes and will start focusing more on suspension.

The guys I know that hit the track only use mono tube, one of them set a record at Buttonwillow.

Thread is going off-course.

Like I said, PM me and you won't break your wallet.
I don't have pictures of any TL with them on, but I do have civics that run em.

One is daily driven and runs no preload, the other is daily driven and tracked.




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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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Ok.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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I will repeat- if you want to sell new- not originally purchased for your own use- parts on azine, you need to PAY to be an authorized vendor, and its not cheap~
those people make azine free to the rest of us!

Feel free to state your personal experience and opinion of any product, and realize we have many true hard core racers, techs, people who know the internals of parts and why they work or don't
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