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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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check this TL-P vs celica GT post

http://www.koreanpride.com/showthrea...5&pagenumber=1
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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2003 TL
Engine: 3.2-liter V6 SOHC
Horsepower: 225 @ 5600
Torque: 216 @ 4700
Weight: 3492 lbs (1584 kg)
Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 8.6 sec.
1/4-mile in 16.6 sec.
Top Speed: 124 mph
Braking: 60-0 mph in 155 ft.
Road Holding: 0.80 g.
Fuel Economy: 20 (City) / 32 (Highway)


are these specs true?
the 8.6?

edit. and these were msn car point
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by turbox777
2003 TL

are these specs true?
the 8.6?

edit. and these were msn car point

Only if the transmission is fried! :yack:
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by turbox777
2003 TL
Engine: 3.2-liter V6 SOHC
Horsepower: 225 @ 5600
Torque: 216 @ 4700
Weight: 3492 lbs (1584 kg)
Only these are correct.

BTW, they probably had 2 sumo guys driving the car.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by turbox777
2003 TL
Engine: 3.2-liter V6 SOHC
Horsepower: 225 @ 5600
Torque: 216 @ 4700
Weight: 3492 lbs (1584 kg)
Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 8.6 sec.
1/4-mile in 16.6 sec.
Top Speed: 124 mph
Braking: 60-0 mph in 155 ft.
Road Holding: 0.80 g.
Fuel Economy: 20 (City) / 32 (Highway)


are these specs true?
the 8.6?

edit. and these were msn car point
I recognize those numbers! they are from daniel heurad @ carpont.msn.com! Ignore them! that old fart has the most ridicuolous numbers on the net!! he got like high 15's for the Honda S2000 and rsx type S. He described them as having dissappointing performance!

TLP: 0 to 60: 6.9 to 7.1
1/4mile: 15.5
on a good day
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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On a good day..Maybe going down hill in cold weather with wind behind your back and a stipped down car with nothing but driver and a seat to sit in..Please torqueaholic..your numbers are closer to TLS numbers..A TLP realistically runs about 7.8 to 8.2 and a quarter at about high 15's low 16's..0-60 in 6.9-7.1, man your smoking something.
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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I recognize those numbers! they are from daniel heurad @ carpont.msn.com! Ignore them! that old fart has the most ridicuolous numbers on the net!! he got like high 15's for the Honda S2000 and rsx type S. He described them as having dissappointing performance!

Daniel Heraud is a ****er! He doesnt know anything about cars. i even saw 8.9sec 0-60 for a TL..... the tl can do low 7s...
I got his book (in french) and almost half of the numbers in the book are not true.....!

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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by FLAcuraTLS
On a good day..Maybe going down hill in cold weather with wind behind your back and a stipped down car with nothing but driver and a seat to sit in..Please torqueaholic..your numbers are closer to TLS numbers..A TLP realistically runs about 7.8 to 8.2 and a quarter at about high 15's low 16's..0-60 in 6.9-7.1, man your smoking something.
Actually, I'm smoking something, but your high on that other sh1t! Honda is quoted at saying that quote: "with the addition of the 5 speed automatic transmission to the TL, it does 0 to 60 in .5seconds less than the 4 speed." Now edmunds.com got a 7.6 from the 4speed auto in '99, but said that with this OFFICIAL INFO FROM HONDA OF AMERICA, the '02+TL is good for a 7.1sec to 60, at the very LEAST!! where the hell did you get your numbers? do you work for carpoint.msn.com or something?


HIT THIS LINK, and get educated:

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...8/article.html
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 12:44 AM
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The only people that give realistic 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are Car and Driver. Subscribe to Car and Driver or go to caranddriver.com for performance results. They're right on the money pretty much every time.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Car and Driver got 7.6 and 16.0 for TL-S in October's issue and it is in line with 8.6/16.6 fot TL-P. It does look like 2003 cars are somewhat slower.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by SergeyM
Car and Driver got 7.6 and 16.0 for TL-S in October's issue and it is in line with 8.6/16.6 fot TL-P. It does look like 2003 cars are somewhat slower.
The numbers from car and driver were all way off! all the cars ran really slow that day! Judging from the pictures, they ran those cars in the south during the summer, with the AC on! and as for daniel's numbers, if you believe those then, you'll believe anything! check out his 14second corvette runs
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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settle down guys we need to get accurate numbers from an accurate source, then and only then will we know the true numbers. car and driver is a start but let's get some more info! I'll do what i can on my end and let's see what we come up with. HOLLA!
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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I doubt the TL-Type S can run 0-60 in 7 seconds. It should run about low-mid 6.0 seconds. The TL should run about 7.0 seconds. There's no freakin way that those baby's run like 8 seconds. Not even my old fart volvo go so slow. Trust me. Your TL should win, even tho the GT is manual, and even though it mite get a lil headstart, your TL engine will kick in, in the beginning of the 2nd gear - 3rd gear, and say bye bye to mr. GT.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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Hey torqueaholic, if you can find a printed time of a 2002 TL doing 0-60 anywhere near 6.9-7.1(without mods of course), TAKE A PICTURE and frame it, because that's a miracle. Once you have some proof, then you can "educate" me, otherwise, educate yourself buddy.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Ummm

I routinely do 0-60 in 6.4 area in my CL-S. So? I know what mine can do.

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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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Look here, its from yahoo, and it tells you what road and track, car and driver and some other sources say about the 2002 TL Type S and the TL.

http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/2595.asp

good enough proof FLAcuraTLS????


you might want to stop running your mouth until you actually have good evidence. and not some random F**K on the internet.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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8.6 sec maybe with traction control on and without torque braking...

if not then it's capable of doing low 7s...

if u want the fastest time look at motor trend...they always get teh fastest time somehow...
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 02:18 AM
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Easy GaddAMIT, your stats show a 7.40 and a 6.70..wow all that shows is that we are both right. I honestly don't know how MT got a time of 6.7 0-60 and a 15.2 in the 1/4mi in a TLP, but IMO the 7.40 from C&D sounds more realistic. 7.40 is not 6.9-7.1 as torqueaholic said now is it? Which is all I was saying, so just relax.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Wow... quoting stats from magazines and arguing about it... that will get you far

Seriously.... there's no point in magazine racing as different people will get different times on any given day. I agree that 8.6 0-60 is pretty damn slow... but arguing over the accurate times from 80 different sources will just run you in circles. Get to a track and run. Get a slip with a 1/4 mile time and you can figure out for yourself how you stack up against the magazine times....
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by FLAcuraTLS
Easy GaddAMIT, your stats show a 7.40 and a 6.70..wow all that shows is that we are both right. I honestly don't know how MT got a time of 6.7 0-60 and a 15.2 in the 1/4mi in a TLP, but IMO the 7.40 from C&D sounds more realistic. 7.40 is not 6.9-7.1 as torqueaholic said now is it? Which is all I was saying, so just relax.
Well my point is that you doubted the existence of the 6.7, and the sad part is it is REAL! How the hell they got that time for the TL back in 2000, is BEYOND me!, but its REAL none-the-less! there is a huge difference between daniel heurad's(jackas$) 8.6, and a time interval of 6.7 to 7.4!! I think that the final 1/4mile time is somewhere inbetween the car and driver's and mototrends, that is mid 15's on a good day with all things being equal!

If you want me to go with the 7.4 time of car and driver, then I will as long as you admit that there is absolutely NO difference between the TL and the TYPES. WHY? well because in the current issue of car and driver, they clocked the type s at 7.4!!! with a 16.0 1/4mile!!!! making it SLOWER than the regular TL! I think I'll stick with motortrend!
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Wow... quoting stats from magazines and arguing about it... that will get you far

Seriously.... there's no point in magazine racing as different people will get different times on any given day. I agree that 8.6 0-60 is pretty damn slow... but arguing over the accurate times from 80 different sources will just run you in circles. Get to a track and run. Get a slip with a 1/4 mile time and you can figure out for yourself how you stack up against the magazine times....
Well, In october, I am going to the dragstrip with my freind from work with the buick regal GS, as I've posted before! When I come back I will post my timeslip. OH......and it WON'T be a 16!
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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i've never been to the track, but my friend has a 240sx, lightly modded, he runs mid 15s everytime, i've raced him many times most of the time i'll have a car on him, the closest race was when he kept up until 3rd, mid to low 15s for a TL sounds realistic to me...
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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Torqueaholic..good point, and i was proved wrong. I mean, I don't think the 6.7 is going to be a number that can be duplicated numerous times, but none the less it exists, and I stand corrected. But realistically, I honestly think mid 7's is more of a real world number for the TLP. As far as GaddAmit losing his temper, thats just childish. Some people just get too heated on the internet.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by FLAcuraTLS
Torqueaholic..good point, and i was proved wrong. I mean, I don't think the 6.7 is going to be a number that can be duplicated numerous times, but none the less it exists, and I stand corrected. But realistically, I honestly think mid 7's is more of a real world number for the TLP. As far as GaddAmit losing his temper, thats just childish. Some people just get too heated on the internet.
cool, man I respect your opinion. As I told the moderator, we'll see in october, because I'm going to get timed bone stock. If I pull out a freak 6.7, I'll post it on the net 4 sure
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