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Old 10-29-2007, 09:36 PM
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Can i win this race-Are these specs BS? 500hp?

alright people, i have this friend and hes always picked on me because of my car( i used to drive a 1993 corolla) now i have a 1999 TL and he wants to race me. I know for a fact that i am a better driver but he claims that he is pushing 500 hp and his mods are "18 g ball bearing turbo. evolution 7 motor. front mount intercooler. with exhaust. hearders new cam shaft. and 16 psi. but i have a boost controol i cna make 22 psi" according to him. is this all BS do these things add up? because i seriously dont think you can do all this to a 2nd gen Eagle talon. Please give me advice on how to call his bluff(if there is one) or how to even the odds. thanks -phee
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500hp is bull, if hes really running a evo 7 4g63 with a 18g turbo, especially since the evo 8 4g63 is alot better and is alot easier to get/cheaper then a jdm evo vii engine, and they run a bigger 20g turbo running around 23psi and make around 278whp.
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don't waste your gas.
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
500hp is bull, if hes really running a evo 7 4g63 with a 18g turbo, especially since the evo 8 4g63 is alot better and is alot easier to get/cheaper then a jdm evo vii engine, and they run a bigger 20g turbo running around 23psi and make around 278whp.
it never ceases to amaze me when people pull off knowledge like this lol
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don't waste your gas.
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if hes willing to pull numbers out of thin air who know what he'll do if you race.
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Originally Posted by phee
alright people, i have this friend and hes always picked on me because of my car( i used to drive a 1993 corolla) now i have a 1999 TL and he wants to race me. I know for a fact that i am a better driver but he claims that he is pushing 500 hp and his mods are "18 g ball bearing turbo. evolution 7 motor. front mount intercooler. with exhaust. hearders new cam shaft. and 16 psi. but i have a boost controol i cna make 22 psi" according to him. is this all BS do these things add up? because i seriously dont think you can do all this to a 2nd gen Eagle talon. Please give me advice on how to call his bluff(if there is one) or how to even the odds. thanks -phee
He has headers on a turbo car?

This is a very common conversation between 16 year olds. lol
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bs but i think he'll have enough to pull on your 99 espcially since the TSi is awd. your best bet is doin a 25 roll. drivetrain loss is your favor.

what are your mods
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i honestly doubt hes swapped, because thats a pretty intensive swap since the whole engine is reversed.
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LMAO... omfg, your friend is idiot... Go race him on a roll.. and all i gotta say is that talon's are quick, if u mod them right...
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ok man even if he didnt have all that and just a stock TSI talon he would still be quicker, I know from experience
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aww man, im ROTLF here at work from some of the responses haha, i knew he was BS when i asked him if he had a dyno sheet and he said "i lost it" haha. My TL is BONE STOCK. can someone tell me why i might have a chance doing a roll?
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He will probably beat you either way, even if if mods are BS
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did he just do a motor swap or a full engine bay swap, tranny and all. cause thats the only way it would work. an evos motor faces the opposite direction than a talons so hed have to swap out a lot of shit..but ive seen talons kill vettes and evos before just youtube it and see.
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Originally Posted by phee
can someone tell me why i might have a chance doing a roll?

awd has drivetrain loss from a roll. off the line he'll launch it be out on your ass
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yea off the role maybe you may have a chance but of the start NO WAY. My friends stock TSI keeps with a twin turbo 300zx up untill 120km or so then 300 takes him. but thats bprety impressive concidering the 80-90 hp difference
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damn...looks like im going to have to backdown from his challenge. id rather listen to him boast rather than give me shit about kicking my ass. Back to the drawing board to conjure up some mods for speed. I really didnt buy this car for racing though, just wanted to look fast haha
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eagle talons may not be able to reach the 500 hp mark, but they can be INCREDIBLY FAST if they've got the proper mods w/ appropraiate tunning. i say don't race
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yea real fast lol look up on youtuve some talons, I am not sure the name of the video but its a black talon with a eclipse back bumper I think and no spoiler, that thing is running 9s low 10s with 550hp I think. now thats some sick shit. too bad they are so unreliable and you always have to be at the mechanic dishing out cash
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its funny that you would mention that they are unreliable, its like this kids made out of money (rich parents) hes always having problems with his car and its always at the mech. yet he can still afford these mods. ill see if i can get a pic of his engine for you guys to check out. 550HP is sick shit
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hahaha I know they are unreliable cuz one of my best friends has one, and first his turbo went so he too it to the mech to change that and then it stayed there since may and he still didnt get it back.they kept finding problems and stuff.SO... 12gs later he still didnt get the car back but apparently his engine got bored out to 2.2 or 2.4 liter, new turbo with all the goods necessary to make it to 450awhp.and the thing is he isnt rich at all, just bank loans and visa.so I am thinking he is prety much f****d, but its his choice. I think its a waste tho
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I know they are not reliable because thats what I had b4 my TL. lol

Godfather2- you can def get 500+ hp out of the 4G63t...
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500hp definately possible but I doubt this particular car is making anywhere close to that. Either way, all it takes is turning the boost up a hair to give the TL lots of trouble. Intake, downpipe and exhaust and you're history. I ran into one with big cams, frontmount, big turbo, etc and it happened to be one of the rare occasions I was on regular 91 octane. He was on 100 and I only won by 3 cars. Waaay too close.
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"84 Buick GN 4.2L, T-66, 602hp 620lbs tq daily driver turned weekend warrior. Stock block, rods, and crank. "

hahaha man that is a monster. damn
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Originally Posted by godfather2
eagle talons may not be able to reach the 500 hp mark, but they can be INCREDIBLY FAST if they've got the proper mods w/ appropraiate tunning. i say don't race
they can easily go way over the 500 benchmark, but his friend is probably just full of it.
try to take a picture of his engine to see if its stock.
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
they can easily go way over the 500 benchmark, but his friend is probably just full of it.
try to take a picture of his engine to see if its stock.
Pretty much my thoughts. Although it's not easy. I watched my friend get into the 10s in his AWD DSM and 11s in his FWD, and it was much more difficult than the internet would have you believe. Both of us with "10 second combos" ran 12s our first times out and it took both of us nearly a year's worth or runs to run the magic number.

Problem is, just like most factory turbo cars it only takes a very small amount of mods to make 50% more power. I got smoked just the other day in my 06 TL by a friend's Eclipse with the boost turned up. It wasn't one of those races where if I got a better start, or reacted quicker I could've won. He put 4 cars on me pretty quickly. I had beat the same car by 2 cars when it was at stock boost levels.
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well i sent him a message, lets see if he is willing to comply
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lol you're probably gonna get a picture of an actual evo 7's engine bay
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when he send you a pic google it and see if he did the same and sent you a pic from google hahaha
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i asked him for the pic, lets see if he will comply
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