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Old 05-01-2002 | 03:03 PM
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Brake Rotors and Pads

Hey everyone... needing to change my rotors and pads... also looking to upgrade to slotted or cross-drilled rotors, but not sure which brand to go with, or to go with either slotted or cross-drilled.

So other than ACP rotors, can you guys recommend a brand and type or rotor (slotted or cross-drilled) to buy for our cars?

P.S. Not looking to pay $2,400 for the Brembo Evo kit...
Old 05-01-2002 | 03:25 PM
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I like the Powerstop rotors and Metal master pads.
I think Tim sells the pads, but not those rotors.
Search goolge.com for a vendor for the rotors, but buy the pads here (if Tim sells them).
I had them on my '00 TL-P and loved them, now that I have the '02 TL-S I'm not even waiting for the stock ones to wear.
Oh and they should be cheaper then the stock ones from Honda Better rotors, cheaper, can't beat that!!

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Old 05-01-2002 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by mgothers
I like the Powerstop rotors and Metal master pads.
I think Tim sells the pads, but not those rotors.
Search goolge.com for a vendor for the rotors, but buy the pads here (if Tim sells them).
I had them on my '00 TL-P and loved them, now that I have the '02 TL-S I'm not even waiting for the stock ones to wear.
Oh and they should be cheaper then the stock ones from Honda Better rotors, cheaper, can't beat that!!

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Thanks for the response Matt... do you have any suggestions between getting slotted or cross-drilled rotors? From what i've read, crossed-drilled run cooler, but have a tendency to loose their integrity much sooner than slotted. But slotted rotors tend to wear pads quicker, due to the slots acting like a razor blade against them. Anyway, any additional suggestions between the two?
Old 05-01-2002 | 03:43 PM
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Re: Brake Rotors and Pads

Originally posted by jumpman
Hey everyone... needing to change my rotors and pads... also looking to upgrade to slotted or cross-drilled rotors, but not sure which brand to go with, or to go with either slotted or cross-drilled.

So other than ACP rotors, can you guys recommend a brand and type or rotor (slotted or cross-drilled) to buy for our cars?

I had Crossdrilled rotors that just got replace by ACP crossdrilled rotors(KVR). The KVR's are way better than my old C/D's. The hole pattern is also very nice. Sliver plated. I would recomend KVR's Crossdrilled(ACP).

I qualify slotted for dragracing only. C/D for street and circuit racing.

Pads I'm getting axxis metal master, don't have them installed so can't give you feedback.
Old 05-01-2002 | 04:18 PM
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If you are racing you may want to worry about the over heating.
Bottom line is the slotted is supposed to feed hot gasses out quicker...
Either xdrilled or slotted will lower the mass of the rotor. It's mostly a looks thing. I think that Xdrilled AND slotted rotors look pretty cool. Look at some pics people have posted, see what looks cool to you, go with that.
At the end of the day, what ever helps you sleep at night is what ya gotta do.

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Old 05-01-2002 | 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by mgothers
If you are racing you may want to worry about the over heating.
Bottom line is the slotted is supposed to feed hot gasses out quicker...
Either xdrilled or slotted will lower the mass of the rotor. It's mostly a looks thing. I think that Xdrilled AND slotted rotors look pretty cool. Look at some pics people have posted, see what looks cool to you, go with that.
At the end of the day, what ever helps you sleep at night is what ya gotta do.

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Definitely no racing... just daily driving... figured I would do a slight upgrade to the rotors while i'm at the point of changing them out, without going too upscale performance wise... I really just want a reliable rotor that won't warp as quickly as our OEM rotors, while providing some braking improvement without paying too much more... is that possible?
Old 05-01-2002 | 05:40 PM
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Yep,
Just go with which ever you think looks better, Xdrilled or slotted.
If you aren't racing, you aren't gonna warp any faster then just plain rotors (in fact, some say slotted will stand up better against warping).
Anyway, Powerstop makes a great rotor and I got slotted for like 100 per rotor I think it was??? It was like 33% LESS then stock rotors.

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Old 05-01-2002 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by jumpman


Definitely no racing... just daily driving... figured I would do a slight upgrade to the rotors while i'm at the point of changing them out, without going too upscale performance wise... I really just want a reliable rotor that won't warp as quickly as our OEM rotors, while providing some braking improvement without paying too much more... is that possible?
Mixed crossdrilled/slotted looks cool as well as just cossdrilled. KVR's look pretty good. Don't get slotted by itself.

"slotted is supposed to feed hot gasses out quicker... " same as some crossdrilled. No + for either one when it comes to that.

Slotted will not reduced the mass significantly nor it would decrease the contact surface significantly. Crossdrilled will reduce the overall mass and contact surface more compare to slotted, but not drastically.

You could also do a search about this topic, I'm sure there are many.
Old 05-01-2002 | 07:42 PM
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Mixed crossdrilled/slotted looks cool as well as just cossdrilled. KVR's look pretty good. Don't get slotted by itself.

"slotted is supposed to feed hot gasses out quicker... " same as some crossdrilled. No + for either one when it comes to that.

Slotted will not reduced the mass significantly nor it would decrease the contact surface significantly. Crossdrilled will reduce the overall mass and contact surface more compare to slotted, but not drastically.

You could also do a search about this topic, I'm sure there are many.
Thanks for the input... wish i could do a search, but too frugal right now to pay for membership. wish I could start a poll too! Cross-drilled or slotted, and WHY?
Old 05-01-2002 | 07:56 PM
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I say stock rotors unless you do extreme track events. Save your money for better pads.
Old 05-01-2002 | 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by 850EX
I say stock rotors unless you do extreme track events. Save your money for better pads.
don't forget the "how they look" factor.
Old 05-01-2002 | 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by jumpman


Thanks for the input... wish i could do a search, but too frugal right now to pay for membership. wish I could start a poll too! Cross-drilled or slotted, and WHY?
you don't need to be a member to do a search.
Old 05-01-2002 | 08:34 PM
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got this from a web site:

DRILLED VS SLOTTED ROTORS

For many years most racing rotors were drilled. There were two reasons - the holes gave the "fireband" boundary layer of gasses and particulate matter someplace to go and the edges of the holes gave the pad a better "bite".


Unfortunately the drilled holes also reduced the thermal capacity of the discs and served as very effective "stress raisers" significantly decreasing disc life. Improvements in friction materials have pretty much made the drilled rotor a thing of the past in racing. Most racing rotors currently feature a series of tangential slots or channels that serve the same purpose without the attendant disadvantages.
Old 05-02-2002 | 02:30 AM
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Hey Matt, That's an excellent price for the Powerstop Rotors! So how was the performance of the metal master pads? Was there lots of brake dust?
Old 05-02-2002 | 02:33 AM
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Hey Matt, That's an excellent price for the Powerstop Rotors! So how was the performance of the metal master pads? Was there lots of brake dust?
Hehe, I got my KVR's crossdrilled for $100 each too....
Old 05-02-2002 | 04:04 AM
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Any Vancouverites interested in Axxis Ultimates?
Old 05-02-2002 | 08:33 AM
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Talking about the Metal Master pads...I didn't think of it at the time (I had the car for 2 months and then traded it in on the '02 TL-S), there was less brake dust.
Performance...I never thought I'd notice the diff, but I did...now, my pads were worn pretty good, so maybe that had something to do with it, but I definately believe I could stop a little better.
Like I say, it sold me to the point I'm replacing my stock ones before I even need to. Plus it's not that exp of a mod
Old 05-02-2002 | 01:08 PM
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Anyone happen to know the rear pad number?
Old 05-02-2002 | 02:09 PM
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Do you guys know if our brake rotors and pads are identical to those in the Accord V6???
Old 05-02-2002 | 04:41 PM
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Just figured out.

Front and rear pads identical to ITR.
Old 05-03-2002 | 02:46 AM
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850EX, How do the Axxis Ultimates compare with Axxis Metal Masters? How much?

KVR for $100 too?!?!?! I wonder where I can get them in Canada for a good price? The exchange for us sux!
Old 05-03-2002 | 03:58 AM
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Ultimates are much better than MM. They are a better compund. Runs about $150US a set of 4.
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