Brake Fluid?
Brake Fluid?
i have see alot of people have upgraded brakes and rotors on their car but havent seen anyone upgrade their brake fluid I am planning to change fluid in my car is there any good brake fluid out there i only know motul but they are hard to get THANKS
Don't know about the fluid - normally most seem to upgrade the rotors pads and the brake lines. I was under the impression the Honda Brake fluid is pretty good. Interesting......
The best that a fluid can do for you is provide stable, consistent performance. all fluids will absorb water over time, all fluids must be bled at some point. It’s that simple.
That said, find the best DOT-compatible fluid that fits your budget and is readily available to you. If your fluid never boils on track, you’re done – there’s your “right” fluid. However, if fluid fade persists, you may have to bite the bullet and pay up the ladder for the next best thing. Speed costs money as the saying goes, and so does performance braking.
That said, find the best DOT-compatible fluid that fits your budget and is readily available to you. If your fluid never boils on track, you’re done – there’s your “right” fluid. However, if fluid fade persists, you may have to bite the bullet and pay up the ladder for the next best thing. Speed costs money as the saying goes, and so does performance braking.
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I'm using ATE Super Blue DOT 5.1 and it boiled on me at the track last week. But I was driving the living shit out of my car and took off a good 5,000-mile life off my T1-S tires.
When I had just upgraded the brakes to Rotora BBK in the front, and slotted rotors with HP Plus pads in the rear, I was still using the factory fluid. It boiled on me after ONE hard stop from about 100 mph. After that, I switched to ATE and it's been much better, except this one time it boiled on me. But I was driving like 10 times harder than I do on the streets.
If you don't track your car, then DOT 3 or DOT 4 will do just fine. But if you occasionally hit up the race track, then DOT 5.1 is your best bet. DOT 5.0 is silicone-based and will eat away at the seals in the brake system and is for race car-use only. Don't use that.
The proper bleeding sequence for our cars is the following -- driver side front, passenger front, passenger side rear, then driver side rear; starting from one corner and going around in a circle, basically. To completely flush the system and replace with new, you will need about 3/4 of a quart. One can of ATE Super Blue DOT 5.1 from www.cobaltfriction.com will be plenty enough, with some left over to bleed it once or twice in the future. It's like 15 bucks shipped, which is 3-4 times more expensive than DOT 3 Valvoline brake fluid you can buy at any auto parts store, but it's worth it.
EDIT -- after bleeding the brakes, it is recommended that you take your car out and activate the ABS system a few times. There might be air trapped in the ABS modulator, so you need to activate the system to get the air out into the brake lines in order to bleed it again.
When I had just upgraded the brakes to Rotora BBK in the front, and slotted rotors with HP Plus pads in the rear, I was still using the factory fluid. It boiled on me after ONE hard stop from about 100 mph. After that, I switched to ATE and it's been much better, except this one time it boiled on me. But I was driving like 10 times harder than I do on the streets.
If you don't track your car, then DOT 3 or DOT 4 will do just fine. But if you occasionally hit up the race track, then DOT 5.1 is your best bet. DOT 5.0 is silicone-based and will eat away at the seals in the brake system and is for race car-use only. Don't use that.
The proper bleeding sequence for our cars is the following -- driver side front, passenger front, passenger side rear, then driver side rear; starting from one corner and going around in a circle, basically. To completely flush the system and replace with new, you will need about 3/4 of a quart. One can of ATE Super Blue DOT 5.1 from www.cobaltfriction.com will be plenty enough, with some left over to bleed it once or twice in the future. It's like 15 bucks shipped, which is 3-4 times more expensive than DOT 3 Valvoline brake fluid you can buy at any auto parts store, but it's worth it.
EDIT -- after bleeding the brakes, it is recommended that you take your car out and activate the ABS system a few times. There might be air trapped in the ABS modulator, so you need to activate the system to get the air out into the brake lines in order to bleed it again.
I replaced my brake fluid with Vavoline High Performance Synpower synthetic brake fluid. Synpower is both Dot 3 & 4 compatable, has a higher boiling point and absorbs less water that Dot 3 & 4. Synpower is easy to find and not too expensive. I changed the fluid when I installed my Rotora slotted rotors and Axxis Deluxe Plus pads about a year ago.
See link below for brake fluid comparisons.
http://www.swedishbricks.net/700900F...Comparison.htm
See link below for brake fluid comparisons.
http://www.swedishbricks.net/700900F...Comparison.htm
Originally Posted by dj5
I replaced my brake fluid with Vavoline High Performance Synpower synthetic brake fluid. Synpower is both Dot 3 & 4 compatable, has a higher boiling point and absorbs less water that Dot 3 & 4. Synpower is easy to find and not too expensive. I changed the fluid when I installed my Rotora slotted rotors and Axxis Deluxe Plus pads about a year ago.
See link below for brake fluid comparisons.
http://www.swedishbricks.net/700900F...Comparison.htm
See link below for brake fluid comparisons.
http://www.swedishbricks.net/700900F...Comparison.htm
I used the same fluid when I replaced upgraded to rotora slotted rotors and hawk hps pads. I made the switch primarily due to the higher boiling point.
Its a good idea to flush your brake lines every few years just to get out any water contamination since brake fluid is extrememly hydrophillic. If your fluid is old or contaminated, you may notice better braking & pedal feel, but if your fluid is in good shape, you really shouldnt notice anything.
When I upgraded my lines, disks, and pads, I used the valvoline fluid to bleed my lines, and flush all the old fluid out . I went with it since it's good stuff, and was so easily available.
When I upgraded my lines, disks, and pads, I used the valvoline fluid to bleed my lines, and flush all the old fluid out . I went with it since it's good stuff, and was so easily available.
Originally Posted by samkws
i use motul 600, which is for racing use
btw...how do you know if the brake fluid is boiled
btw...how do you know if the brake fluid is boiled
You will know.
I have ATE Super Blue Racing. Here is a good link on Brake Fluid.
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