Is this Brake combo any good?
#1
Is this Brake combo any good?
Hi,
I am thinking about replacing all 4 rotors and pads all at once.
Option 1
Rotora Cross drilled & slotted rotors with Axxis ultimate pads
Option 2
Brembo OE Rotors (blanks?? or drilled & slotted???) with Axxis ultimate pads
what do you guys think??
I have heard a lot about Brembo, Rotora, and Axxis. Now the question is if I should go slotted, drilled, or combo??
I am looking for ANY improvements over stock crap AND this needs to last me longer than stock crap.
Anything need modification in this?? cuz one thing i keep hearing is about Lubricating shims or something??
I am thinking about replacing all 4 rotors and pads all at once.
Option 1
Rotora Cross drilled & slotted rotors with Axxis ultimate pads
Option 2
Brembo OE Rotors (blanks?? or drilled & slotted???) with Axxis ultimate pads
what do you guys think??
I have heard a lot about Brembo, Rotora, and Axxis. Now the question is if I should go slotted, drilled, or combo??
I am looking for ANY improvements over stock crap AND this needs to last me longer than stock crap.
Anything need modification in this?? cuz one thing i keep hearing is about Lubricating shims or something??
#2
welcome to the source of real info- throw away anything someone else told you, it was probably wrong when applied to a TL!
Rotora makes its own pads to match the rotors, and there are way better pads than axis
RacingBrake makes an awesome slotted rotor and in-house pad series
Go to the top of every page here- click Off Topic- then scroll down to Sponsored Sales
Thats all the approved vendors and supporters of this site.
You will see threads on brakes by Excelerate and MrHeelToe, thats the main guys for those type parts
Rotora makes its own pads to match the rotors, and there are way better pads than axis
RacingBrake makes an awesome slotted rotor and in-house pad series
Go to the top of every page here- click Off Topic- then scroll down to Sponsored Sales
Thats all the approved vendors and supporters of this site.
You will see threads on brakes by Excelerate and MrHeelToe, thats the main guys for those type parts
#3
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
welcome to the source of real info- throw away anything someone else told you, it was probably wrong when applied to a TL!
Rotora makes its own pads to match the rotors, and there are way better pads than axis
RacingBrake makes an awesome slotted rotor and in-house pad series
Go to the top of every page here- click Off Topic- then scroll down to Sponsored Sales
Thats all the approved vendors and supporters of this site.
You will see threads on brakes by Excelerate and MrHeelToe, thats the main guys for those type parts
Rotora makes its own pads to match the rotors, and there are way better pads than axis
RacingBrake makes an awesome slotted rotor and in-house pad series
Go to the top of every page here- click Off Topic- then scroll down to Sponsored Sales
Thats all the approved vendors and supporters of this site.
You will see threads on brakes by Excelerate and MrHeelToe, thats the main guys for those type parts
#4
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
OH=my Acura pads have 67,000 miles on them and there's still pad left. I drive on Mountain Roads=nothing is flat here. so:
Brembo Blanks=$139.00
Acura Pads =$40.00
Synthetic Fluid =$10.00
My Time =Free
Gosh=I should have spent more money eh? LOL
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Originally Posted by Luke7
Yea, I guess I'm way off putting Brembo Blanks on next week with Acura pads. I don't race the car, slam on the brakes often, drive fast so no need to spend 60-80 bucks on expensive pads.
OH=my Acura pads have 67,000 miles on them and there's still pad left. I drive on Mountain Roads=nothing is flat here. so:
Brembo Blanks=$139.00
Acura Pads =$40.00
Synthetic Fluid =$10.00
My Time =Free
Gosh=I should have spent more money eh? LOL
OH=my Acura pads have 67,000 miles on them and there's still pad left. I drive on Mountain Roads=nothing is flat here. so:
Brembo Blanks=$139.00
Acura Pads =$40.00
Synthetic Fluid =$10.00
My Time =Free
Gosh=I should have spent more money eh? LOL
#6
Drifting
Well if he isn't hard on them, or doesn't subject them to severe conditions why spend more $$ than necessary? Maybe he has other things he'd prefer to spend $ on.... just worth.
#7
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
Well if he isn't hard on them, or doesn't subject them to severe conditions why spend more $$ than necessary? Maybe he has other things he'd prefer to spend $ on.... just worth.
You think that the above poster drives easy, you should see her Enough to put you to sleep! Although, in talking to her just this afternoon, I explained to her "you put your life on the brakes every time you use them. Not the place to save a buck." Her response to me was, "yeah, they worked really well a couple times in a panic!" now, tell me if I should have spent less? No way, man!
Do yourself a favor and purchase wisely. Could make a big difference some time when you need them.
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#8
thats right~
my wife comes home saying- wow!!! they work really good-
I know that means it was another 80 mph- not looking ahead- and then nothing but brake lights ahead!
its all brakes and big eyes~ and the car slows very quickly- enough to put you in the seat belts--- with an equivilant fast reduction of speed to 20 mph
the car stops 30 feet before you expect- which means,,, thats NOT a foot into the truck of the car ahead--
IMO thats a great thing!!! and worth every penny and hour I have put in making the best brakes I can on the TL. She brought the old maxima home 2 feet shorter 1 day....
Good pads and good rotors make a differance regardless of how you normally drive- its those all to common panic situations that you can count the differance in dollars spent, in feet between you and the next car
my wife comes home saying- wow!!! they work really good-
I know that means it was another 80 mph- not looking ahead- and then nothing but brake lights ahead!
its all brakes and big eyes~ and the car slows very quickly- enough to put you in the seat belts--- with an equivilant fast reduction of speed to 20 mph
the car stops 30 feet before you expect- which means,,, thats NOT a foot into the truck of the car ahead--
IMO thats a great thing!!! and worth every penny and hour I have put in making the best brakes I can on the TL. She brought the old maxima home 2 feet shorter 1 day....
Good pads and good rotors make a differance regardless of how you normally drive- its those all to common panic situations that you can count the differance in dollars spent, in feet between you and the next car
#9
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Stay away from the axxis ultimates. You will hate them. They produce more dust than a coal factory and arent the best when comes to braking. There are better pads out there.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Stay away from the axxis ultimates. You will hate them. They produce more dust than a coal factory and arent the best when comes to braking. There are better pads out there.
btw, I have Brembo Blanks with the Axxis Ultimates...at least for now.
#11
WNC Real Estate Sales99TL
The Brembo rotors are better than stock. I have 68,000 on the stock set up now and they still work fine. A little sign of warping but not much. Still a good amout of miles for stock rotors. Acura replaced them at 30,000 miles= Rotors and Pads due to warping.
I'm happy they lasted this long.
I'm happy they lasted this long.
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I'm satisfied with my Brembo blanks and Akebono Proact ceramics. Not the best money can buy, but I was looking for a combo of decent stopping power, no noise and low dust.
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Racing Brake FTW.
RB Slotted fronts with ET500 pads on the TL-S = Great combo.
RB Slotted fronts with ET500 pads on the TL-S = Great combo.
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I am using Akebono and they are a very decent pad. Not too much noise, good stopping and from what I can see not much brake dust. If you have the money then yeah get a racing brake setup but if you don't brembo blanks with akebono is a very decent setup that will stop the car well.
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Originally Posted by firstpickrick
By changing brakes don't you guys hear squeaks??
lol
should do a poll of which rotors. haha
if it weren't for 01tl4tl, i would've gone with Rotora Slotted rotors... but then after 01tl4tl always saying RacingBrake, i wouldn't be so brake happy these days.
gawd i love my legend calipers + RB rotors.
brake check with my friends in the back smashing their faces into the headrests... lol
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Originally Posted by firstpickrick
By changing brakes don't you guys hear squeaks??
uhmmm .... No.
Research and care during the install are the key to quiet brakes.
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Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by jjashaa
NAY~!
lol
should do a poll of which rotors. haha
if it weren't for 01tl4tl, i would've gone with Rotora Slotted rotors... but then after 01tl4tl always saying RacingBrake, i wouldn't be so brake happy these days.
gawd i love my legend calipers + RB rotors.
brake check with my friends in the back smashing their faces into the headrests... lol
lol
should do a poll of which rotors. haha
if it weren't for 01tl4tl, i would've gone with Rotora Slotted rotors... but then after 01tl4tl always saying RacingBrake, i wouldn't be so brake happy these days.
gawd i love my legend calipers + RB rotors.
brake check with my friends in the back smashing their faces into the headrests... lol
#23
Check out the RacingBrake pads on the Centric rotors- those are a good price rotor and these pads are awesome
get ET300 if grandma rides with you all the time
get ET500 if you drive it like a sports car
I have nothing bad to say about rotora- even helped a ziner install them on a 05-S and they worked great. My preferance was for something else, so thats what I have and can speak with fact on how they work.
get ET300 if grandma rides with you all the time
get ET500 if you drive it like a sports car
I have nothing bad to say about rotora- even helped a ziner install them on a 05-S and they worked great. My preferance was for something else, so thats what I have and can speak with fact on how they work.
#24
Originally Posted by 03TLS4me
Soon I will be installing the following in front:
Centric premium rotors & Akebono Street Performance pads. Does anyone else have these pads on their TL?
Thanks
Centric premium rotors & Akebono Street Performance pads. Does anyone else have these pads on their TL?
Thanks
#25
Suzuka Master
Brembo blanks with hawk HPS pads here, wish I had splurged a bit more for some slotted rotors, but the pads made a decent difference in stopping power. Perhaps I'll upgrade to legend calipers and SS lines for more stopping power and better feel though. Also, the Hawk pads produce very little dust and are only noisy at first, the noise was gone right after bedding them in basically.
#26
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I have the Rotora slotted rotors with the Rotora ceramic pads and while they were great for awhile, ended up being no better than stock pads/rotors in terms of durability. After 35k miles of NORMAL driving/stopping, they are completely warped.
I will be looking for an alternative in the near future as well.
I will be looking for an alternative in the near future as well.
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I went with Centric rotors (front only) and EBC Greenstuff pads all around. Braking is a little better than stock when cold...noticeably better when heated up. I bedded the pads properly, but the rotors still warped slightly after only 1000 miles on a long trip. It's now been about 4000 miles since then, and the warping has not gotten worse, in fact it straightened out a little after I did a few "heavy burns" from 90 mph. It's now only ever so slightly noticeable (my dad drove the car, and he did not notice the warpage...and he's GREAT at noticing these things).
I'm very easy on the brakes. I don't subscribe to the "use the brakes to change your speed" theory. I actually tried that method when I got these brakes, using shorter and harder bursts of braking, rather than lighter longer "drags", and that's when they warped! My theory is: it's not the heat of a continuous "drag" that warps them, it's the repeated cycles of cold to hot (the "...change your speed" method) that does it. Other than those "heavy burns" I mentioned, I've gone back to my gentle braking method, and haven't had a problem since.
I'm very easy on the brakes. I don't subscribe to the "use the brakes to change your speed" theory. I actually tried that method when I got these brakes, using shorter and harder bursts of braking, rather than lighter longer "drags", and that's when they warped! My theory is: it's not the heat of a continuous "drag" that warps them, it's the repeated cycles of cold to hot (the "...change your speed" method) that does it. Other than those "heavy burns" I mentioned, I've gone back to my gentle braking method, and haven't had a problem since.
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Originally Posted by TLer trash
I'm currently using akebono street performance pads with ate rotors. So far, I'm really pleased. No noise, no dust, and really good grip, even cold.
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Can someone just make a recommendation on which pads are best to use for standard rotors which come on my 05 6MT? I'm about to get the standard rotors "zero cut" (whatever the hell that means) and if I'm going to have to drop a couple hundy on pads I want to get very good ones that produce litle dust.
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Originally Posted by SFOX
Don't use EBC Greenstuff. It is very dusty. Akebona is the pad of choice. I regreted after I replaced Akebono with EBC Greenstuff.
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Check MrHeelToe
http://heeltoeauto.com/COMBO-SPECIALS-c-1804.html
Since the rears only do 30 percent of the braking, they dont really need the mettalurgy and special cooling of the fronts.
You can get a rear set that also fits other cars- BUT the 2 retaining screw holes do not line up- it doesnt matter- you dont need them anyway- the wheel is what holds everything on~!
Centric makes a good set for the back that are a visual match to the side vane pattern and are in use by many here
I like RB pads with RB rotors
iirc- this months secret code on heeltoe is acurazinerocks
http://heeltoeauto.com/COMBO-SPECIALS-c-1804.html
Since the rears only do 30 percent of the braking, they dont really need the mettalurgy and special cooling of the fronts.
You can get a rear set that also fits other cars- BUT the 2 retaining screw holes do not line up- it doesnt matter- you dont need them anyway- the wheel is what holds everything on~!
Centric makes a good set for the back that are a visual match to the side vane pattern and are in use by many here
I like RB pads with RB rotors
iirc- this months secret code on heeltoe is acurazinerocks
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Originally Posted by SFOX
Don't use EBC Greenstuff. It is very dusty. Akebona is the pad of choice. I regreted after I replaced Akebono with EBC Greenstuff.
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