randomwalk101

And it could happen to you too....You are riding on a time bomb!

http://www.**********.com/forums/sho...threadid=16435

this is me

what the ******* for?

fahoumh

it's the "other" Acura site (not A-CL)

LiQiCE

Holy crap, those pics look awful. I'm shocked to hear that both drivers lived to see another day!

Honda really needs to address this issue!!!! I seriously hope my tranny never gives out on me!

this is me

dang!! :wow: :wow: :wow:
i'm scared now considering i'm doing 85-90 on the freeday every weekend.

randomwalk101

put "acura_world" where the ******** is but leave out the "-". I didn't put the **** there...it does it automatically. Sorry I forgot about that.

pianoman41

get rid of the spaces, but try w w w . a c u r a w o r l d . c o m

asloudasitgets

link doesnt work for me

asloudasitgets

what the **** is honda doing while these people are getting in accidents? for thier ****ing mistake..

sue the **** out of honda. make them pay

oblio98

Holy Crap! Tranny issues will not go away! Shyne is lucky he is here to sue!

:-jon

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Damn..... that topic is over a month and half old..... I even remember seeing this posted on here already (TL section) and on acl.com too......

I believe he's already pretty far into the sueing stages. If he wins this case... you better believe that you will see a recall very quickly....

car_lost

lets hope so... i have an 03' tl-s and my tranny shifts erratically at times.

randomwalk101

Sorry if I reposted...didn't see it before. Anyhow, the point is to becareful because you might not be as lucky as Shyne to be ALIVE!!!

I'm waiting for a recall from Acura. Your life doesn't worth $30K!!!

Gilgamesh

Sucks that it happened to him, but I am glad that he is pioneering an effort to get Honda to own up to this.

SK2003TypeS

I got a 2003 because I thought that these issues were resolved after the earlier generations. I didn't find this forum until after buying it. This kinda sounds like FightClub. Let's hope that Honda/Acura does something since there've been a lot of complaints about it.
Hope the courts treat poor Shyne correctly.

Alexxx

Whatever happens, happens...I still love my car.

neuronbob

I read the story back when it was posted on "the other site", and am very happy that Shyne survived. I still love my car, too, but honestly believe that Acura needs to step up to the plate and recall the tranny.

ArN 2000 TL

I know it sounds stupid, but I would love for this to happen to me because everytime i bring my car to the dealer I complain about the tranny slipping from 3-4th gears and sometimes from 2-3 and all they do is flush the tranny and replace the fluid, drive it like an old lady for about 2 miles and tell me everything is fine. I don't understand why they don't take a more pro-active approach to fixing this problem.

They should get their thumbs outta there asses and recall these vehicles before someone gets seriously hurt or even dies because of this. Not only isn;t it safe for the driver, but also everyone else on the road. I often drive at speeds in excess of 60MPH on the highways and am not always holding the steering wheel with 2 hands and I shouldn't have to worry about this but its always in the back of my mind now due to these posts.

I could only imagine driving at around 80mph and having the car shift to 2nd gear...if i dont get rear-ended most likely I would loose control and god only knows what would happen.

Didn't someone say that they could just replace the ECU to change the shifting points? I don't understand why they couldn't have somethign in there (program wise) to not allow the car to shift into such a low gear while traveling at that speed. You can shift a new volvo into reverse driving at 100MPH and the car won't even shutter cause the computer knows that is not possible to do this. (don't ask how i know this ). But seriously I hope Shyne wins his case!!!

randomwalk101

arn2000TL,
I think I know the answer to your "why" question.

Acura/Honda (like any other car makers) are in the business of making cars (ultimately money). They don't make cars out the goodness of their hearts. They make it to sell for a profit. Their ultimate goal is to make a profit (money). As any other corp., they operate on the simple business pricinple -> maximizing profit, minimizing loss.
Now, in the case of the tranny, there are about 3 millions or so TL/CL out there. Recall trannies would cost $X for Acura. Paying for lawsuits (if someone dies in tranny caused accidents) will cost $Y. $X is a lot more than $Y (short term), which decision would Acura take? That is why you are where you are right now riding on the tranny time bomb.

This is the best short term solution. Managers objectives are achieved...max. the company's profit. But long run, who knows..who cares...cuz he/she might be retired already in the "long run". Business is sometimes not 100% "moral".

nameeri

thats why i drive a civic now

Ripped

The above post is exactly why if I was on a jury for an accident with injuries due to tranny failure, I would let the person have a 10 billion dollars. That dollar amount sounds pretty stupid, but it's meant to be punitive. If a company puts profits before human lives and gets caught, hit them so hard they might never recover. It teaches the rest of the companies that there is never a time that you can knowingly endanger human lives to make a buck.

Accidental failures are one thing, but if you know there is a problem and don't fix it due to profit margin, that's quite another.

ArN 2000 TL

I couldn't have said it better myself!

T Ho

There's just one problem with that thought. The trans is shifting due to a mechanical failure, and as such, no amount of electronic programming or interlocks will prevent the fault from occurring. This would be like trying to design VSA to prevent a wheel from falling off- can't be done.

Shyne hasn't discussed the specific circumstances of his accident, as far as I can see. I have to wonder if it was all transmission. After all, driver skill, and the ability to quickly react to an adverse situation, has much to do with it. I just accidentally threw my old Z28 back into 1st gear (6 speed manual) at 70mph last week at the track, and I didn't hit the rail, or even leave my lane.

Obviously, we shouldn't be expected to live with this problem, but at the same time, Honda may still not know what to do about it.

Todd

randomwalk101

Yes, the jury can recommend the punishment...the judge will pass out the "reasonable" punishment...which I'm sure will be no where close to 10 billions...And again, there will be "settlements" and what nots....which will save millions to kill a few peeps then to do a recall unless of course mandates by NHTSA. Just me on this one.