About 10 miles of warning before the imminent failure...
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About 10 miles of warning before the imminent failure...
Coming to a stop at a red light before the highway onramp, I felt the car downshift, or no, I should say slam, into first gear. On green, I took off slowly and I could feel a slight bit of hesitation on every upshift.
10 miles into the trip (I was on my way to a wedding, too), I gave it some throttle to pass a slow-moving car and it slipped. I have a habit of putting my right hand on the gear selector and I instinctively just threw it into neutral and pulled over. After talking to a friend who was following me, I decided to carry on and see what happens. Using the SportShift, I locked it into 5th gear and figured that should somehow and somewhat prevent an undesired downshift into 2nd gear. Well, for a while, it seemed to be okay. Wrong.
My transmission is done. It lasted 51k miles. D5 is blinking, and MIL is on. It won't shift out of 2nd gear and reverse is fucked, too.
Funny thing is that from the first symptom of the failure I only had 10 miles of warning. And JUST out of warranty, too. My car was a later batch '03 and was not eligible for the extended transmission warranty because, and I quote, "Honda implemented 'the fix' during production year '03".
I never got a chance to scan the code, so I can't say for sure (though I would guess the chances are pretty damn good) that the cause of the failure is the same as the one responsible for the majority of transmission failures. My car was towed to the dealership and will sit there until Monday.
I hope they cover it on good faith, because I don't think it would be cool of them to deny the claim over the issue of 1,000 miles past warranty mileage. They might give me a hard time on my mods, too. But I'm hoping that since a friend of mine works at this dealership, they will let it slide.
Either way, that pretty much ruined the day. I still made it to the wedding, though. At least I had fun there. Just venting.
10 miles into the trip (I was on my way to a wedding, too), I gave it some throttle to pass a slow-moving car and it slipped. I have a habit of putting my right hand on the gear selector and I instinctively just threw it into neutral and pulled over. After talking to a friend who was following me, I decided to carry on and see what happens. Using the SportShift, I locked it into 5th gear and figured that should somehow and somewhat prevent an undesired downshift into 2nd gear. Well, for a while, it seemed to be okay. Wrong.
My transmission is done. It lasted 51k miles. D5 is blinking, and MIL is on. It won't shift out of 2nd gear and reverse is fucked, too.
Funny thing is that from the first symptom of the failure I only had 10 miles of warning. And JUST out of warranty, too. My car was a later batch '03 and was not eligible for the extended transmission warranty because, and I quote, "Honda implemented 'the fix' during production year '03".
I never got a chance to scan the code, so I can't say for sure (though I would guess the chances are pretty damn good) that the cause of the failure is the same as the one responsible for the majority of transmission failures. My car was towed to the dealership and will sit there until Monday.
I hope they cover it on good faith, because I don't think it would be cool of them to deny the claim over the issue of 1,000 miles past warranty mileage. They might give me a hard time on my mods, too. But I'm hoping that since a friend of mine works at this dealership, they will let it slide.
Either way, that pretty much ruined the day. I still made it to the wedding, though. At least I had fun there. Just venting.
Why... won't.... mine.... die!
It's been shuddering, occasionally slipping, sometimes slamming into gear.. but at other times it seems fine! No lights so far. I just want it to die because it's killing the driving experience.
Edit: is there anything I can ethically and legally do to speed the process? It's obvious that it is on its way out, it's just taking its time. If it were a horse, I'd shoot it.
It's been shuddering, occasionally slipping, sometimes slamming into gear.. but at other times it seems fine! No lights so far. I just want it to die because it's killing the driving experience.
Edit: is there anything I can ethically and legally do to speed the process? It's obvious that it is on its way out, it's just taking its time. If it were a horse, I'd shoot it.
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the day in US was great, and the wedding part was pretty good, except the part that we stayed at the gas station for 2 hrs...
i just got home, almost fell asleep during the drive, have to sing karaoke all the way to keep myself awake
well, i guess i won't come anymore, since i gave u all teh bad luck sucker :p
i just got home, almost fell asleep during the drive, have to sing karaoke all the way to keep myself awake
well, i guess i won't come anymore, since i gave u all teh bad luck sucker :p
Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
Why... won't.... mine.... die!
It's been shuddering, occasionally slipping, sometimes slamming into gear.. but at other times it seems fine! No lights so far. I just want it to die because it's killing the driving experience.
Edit: is there anything I can ethically and legally do to speed the process? It's obvious that it is on its way out, it's just taking its time. If it were a horse, I'd shoot it.
It's been shuddering, occasionally slipping, sometimes slamming into gear.. but at other times it seems fine! No lights so far. I just want it to die because it's killing the driving experience.
Edit: is there anything I can ethically and legally do to speed the process? It's obvious that it is on its way out, it's just taking its time. If it were a horse, I'd shoot it.
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
To Pure Adrenaline:
Piss, bitch, moan, whatever it takes at your Acura dealer. This is still a second gen. TL with the same transmissions as all of the other ones that have failed (I'm on my second but it's holding up well). Their potential attitude that it's not covered under warranty is not acceptable, even if it's over 50K. Any carmaker worth keeping customers should change the transmission, no questions asked. Otherwise, call Acura corporate in California. Good luck. No transmission should fail at such a low mileage.
Piss, bitch, moan, whatever it takes at your Acura dealer. This is still a second gen. TL with the same transmissions as all of the other ones that have failed (I'm on my second but it's holding up well). Their potential attitude that it's not covered under warranty is not acceptable, even if it's over 50K. Any carmaker worth keeping customers should change the transmission, no questions asked. Otherwise, call Acura corporate in California. Good luck. No transmission should fail at such a low mileage.
Originally Posted by fla-tls
I fit is really on it's way out, you can speed it up by changing the fluid (especially if the fluid is brownish and smelling a little burnt).
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
And JUST out of warranty, too. My car was a later batch '03 and was not eligible for the extended transmission warranty because, and I quote, "Honda implemented 'the fix' during production year '03".
I hope they cover it on good faith, because I don't think it would be cool of them to deny the claim over the issue of 1,000 miles past warranty mileage. They might give me a hard time on my mods, too. But I'm hoping that since a friend of mine works at this dealership, they will let it slide.
I hope they cover it on good faith, because I don't think it would be cool of them to deny the claim over the issue of 1,000 miles past warranty mileage. They might give me a hard time on my mods, too. But I'm hoping that since a friend of mine works at this dealership, they will let it slide.
This really sucks. Hopefully Acura will cover the tranny. My car falls out of the warrenty extension as well but I still have awhile before im out of warrenty.
This could also be a good time to get an upgraded tranny and start getting some real power mods
This could also be a good time to get an upgraded tranny and start getting some real power mods
Originally Posted by fla-tls
I fit is really on it's way out, you can speed it up by changing the fluid (especially if the fluid is brownish and smelling a little burnt).
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
the fluid is brownish and smells a little burnt.Hmmm maybe this is what I'll do. A few months ago the fluid was perfectly red/pink like it should be and no foul odors. But now that's all changed.
Originally Posted by nguyen
if u part DIBS ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!
Why do people ask for parts whenever someone posts about their accident/bad fortune?
Good thing you weren't in (or didn't cause) an accident. Too bad I'm not in MI anymore - but at least I asked my buddy to help you
Originally Posted by ndx2
If he does part everything out, I'll personally make sure he doesn't sell to you.
Why do people ask for parts whenever someone posts about their accident/bad fortune?
Good thing you weren't in (or didn't cause) an accident. Too bad I'm not in MI anymore - but at least I asked my buddy to help you
Why do people ask for parts whenever someone posts about their accident/bad fortune?
Good thing you weren't in (or didn't cause) an accident. Too bad I'm not in MI anymore - but at least I asked my buddy to help you

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Originally Posted by samkws
Canadian has a 5 yr/100000km Powertrain Warrenty
guess the US is different?
guess the US is different?
Pure Adrenaline ...
Guess your tranny couldn't last forever ... you beat on it like there was no tomorrow. I'm surprised it even lasted 51k miles. I worry a bit 'cause I don't drive my car hard that much ... but when I'm driving around 50km/h (30mph) ... I feel the tranny slip once in a while ... (approx 1 time / 3 months). I'm at about 100k km (out of a 160k km extended warranty)
Hope the dealership gives you good news on Monday.
Guess your tranny couldn't last forever ... you beat on it like there was no tomorrow. I'm surprised it even lasted 51k miles. I worry a bit 'cause I don't drive my car hard that much ... but when I'm driving around 50km/h (30mph) ... I feel the tranny slip once in a while ... (approx 1 time / 3 months). I'm at about 100k km (out of a 160k km extended warranty)
Hope the dealership gives you good news on Monday.
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Originally Posted by derrick
Pure Adrenaline ...
Guess your tranny couldn't last forever ... you beat on it like there was no tomorrow. I'm surprised it even lasted 51k miles. I worry a bit 'cause I don't drive my car hard that much ... but when I'm driving around 50km/h (30mph) ... I feel the tranny slip once in a while ... (approx 1 time / 3 months). I'm at about 100k km (out of a 160k km extended warranty)
Hope the dealership gives you good news on Monday.
Guess your tranny couldn't last forever ... you beat on it like there was no tomorrow. I'm surprised it even lasted 51k miles. I worry a bit 'cause I don't drive my car hard that much ... but when I'm driving around 50km/h (30mph) ... I feel the tranny slip once in a while ... (approx 1 time / 3 months). I'm at about 100k km (out of a 160k km extended warranty)
Hope the dealership gives you good news on Monday.
By the way, are you "ds" on MSN?
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Sam -- I don't know where you got 5/60,000, but I just checked the warranty booklet and it's 4/50,000.
That warranty is for 2006 Acura's. All of our 2nd Gen's should be covered under 100k tranny warranty. Most dealers don't even differential that its an 03 and officially has just the 50k warranty.
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Ha, for once I liked the way the dealership works.
They called me at 9:30 AM, already test drove the car and ordered a transmission. Funny part is that they said it was covered under the warranty, but officially it is not. So obviously they don't even care. I'll take it as an acknowledgement of how widespread the transmission problem is.
They said the transmission should be in by tomorrow afternoon and put in on Wednesday.
They called me at 9:30 AM, already test drove the car and ordered a transmission. Funny part is that they said it was covered under the warranty, but officially it is not. So obviously they don't even care. I'll take it as an acknowledgement of how widespread the transmission problem is.

They said the transmission should be in by tomorrow afternoon and put in on Wednesday.
Good to hear it Pure Adrenaline
Not to sound like an @$$, but how come you didn't buy an extended with mods like that ?....
I have a year left on my 4 year (mileage isn't an issue)....so have time to decide.
Not to sound like an @$$, but how come you didn't buy an extended with mods like that ?....
I have a year left on my 4 year (mileage isn't an issue)....so have time to decide.
My first died at 73K, and I'm at 85K now, and I've had some tranny slipping, and I did see the D5 light fluctuate a few times on one trip about a week ago. Not going off, just going dim for a few secs then back to bright (weird). The wife's been driving the car to work, and I've been on the bike to save gas money (Kawasaki zzr1200, not pedal-power) for the past couple of weeks, but the last couple times I've driven it it's seemed to be getting worse. If it goes, it better go in the next 15K....
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Originally Posted by SK2003TypeS
Good to hear it Pure Adrenaline
Not to sound like an @$$, but how come you didn't buy an extended with mods like that ?....
I have a year left on my 4 year (mileage isn't an issue)....so have time to decide.
Not to sound like an @$$, but how come you didn't buy an extended with mods like that ?....
I have a year left on my 4 year (mileage isn't an issue)....so have time to decide.
In fact, when my friends found out that my tranny was blown and out of warranty, I got like 5 calls that same night offering to help if the dealership wouldn't cover it.
But I did recommend an extended warranty on my dad's XL Denali because I'm not too familiar with his car and the 7 onboard computers can prove to be an expensive fix.
So yeah, it's all relative.
I'm just glad that the dealership didn't give me any trouble at all and offered to cover it at no charge.
Ok, makes sense.
I'm thinking the cost of a replacement tranny vs. the cost of the warranty. I may do it for peace of mind. Unless I decide to change cars next year. Just nothing out there that interests me though.
This is my first car with a warranty...so it's a weird novelty.
I'm thinking the cost of a replacement tranny vs. the cost of the warranty. I may do it for peace of mind. Unless I decide to change cars next year. Just nothing out there that interests me though.
This is my first car with a warranty...so it's a weird novelty.
Originally Posted by fla-tls
I fit is really on it's way out, you can speed it up by changing the fluid (especially if the fluid is brownish and smelling a little burnt).
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
That may seem counterintuitive, but a tranny with clutches that are starting to get smoked will actually break down faster with new fluid in it. It has something to do with the higher detergent and additive packages of the fresh fluid.
That's VERY interesting as mine failed right after doing a triple flush!!!
It was starting to slip a little and I decided to flush it. Ran great for about
150 more miles and then the slipping returned worse than ever. Once
it begans to consistently slip it totally failed within 20 miles.
/Steve
Originally Posted by vinovelo
That's VERY interesting as mine failed right after doing a triple flush!!!
It was starting to slip a little and I decided to flush it. Ran great for about
150 more miles and then the slipping returned worse than ever. Once
it begans to consistently slip it totally failed within 20 miles.
/Steve
It was starting to slip a little and I decided to flush it. Ran great for about
150 more miles and then the slipping returned worse than ever. Once
it begans to consistently slip it totally failed within 20 miles.
/Steve
fluid that starts to circulate and clots form that cause hydralic failure.
/Steve
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Ha, for once I liked the way the dealership works.
They called me at 9:30 AM, already test drove the car and ordered a transmission. Funny part is that they said it was covered under the warranty, but officially it is not. So obviously they don't even care. I'll take it as an acknowledgement of how widespread the transmission problem is.
They said the transmission should be in by tomorrow afternoon and put in on Wednesday.
They called me at 9:30 AM, already test drove the car and ordered a transmission. Funny part is that they said it was covered under the warranty, but officially it is not. So obviously they don't even care. I'll take it as an acknowledgement of how widespread the transmission problem is.

They said the transmission should be in by tomorrow afternoon and put in on Wednesday.
Told ya they would cover it.
Originally Posted by vinovelo
I also wonder if what happens is that sediment is freed up by the fresher
fluid that starts to circulate and clots form that cause hydralic failure.
/Steve
fluid that starts to circulate and clots form that cause hydralic failure.
/Steve
After my first one went (several weeks after a fluid change), the tech showed me the heat exchanger. It was clogged with gunk.We had a Lincoln Continental that we towed in. It had reached 100k miles and the dealership recommended a tranny flush. He wasn't able to drive it more than 10 miles after that.
We blew tons of CRAP out of his cooler lines. When the cooler clogged the unit overheated. Needless to say, he bought an aftermarket cooler.
Originally Posted by fla-tls
After my first one went (several weeks after a fluid change), the tech showed me the heat exchanger. It was clogged with gunk.We had a Lincoln Continental that we towed in. It had reached 100k miles and the dealership recommended a tranny flush. He wasn't able to drive it more than 10 miles after that.
We blew tons of CRAP out of his cooler lines. When the cooler clogged the unit overheated. Needless to say, he bought an aftermarket cooler.





