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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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6000k Hids vs 8000k Hids

I remember reading on this forum that our OEM ballasts only support up to 6000k HID bulbs.... and if we wanted anything higher like 8000k then we would need to get another set of ballasts.

Has anyone tested this idea and that is why we say that anything higher than 6000k we need new ballasts???
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Old May 13, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure I've read threads from a while ago saying some people have burned up their wires and ballasts with bulbs above 6K. Don't quote me on that, but I want to say there were a few people who reported problems with a 6+K setup using stock components.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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I can't seem to use the search button/feature anymore for any helpful information.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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There the same watts as OEM so nothing will happen. I know because I've had mine on for about 4 months now and there perfect.All that crap about things burning and all that is not true all you have to check is what type of bulb you get cuz some don't work with our OEM ballast. Some bulbs do require you to change the ballast just make sure you ask before you purchase them. My bulbs are OEM OSRAM these work fine with our ballast.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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There the same watts as OEM so nothing will happen. I know because I've had mine on for about 4 months now and there perfect.All that crap about things burning and all that is not true all you have to check is what type of bulb you get cuz some don't work with our OEM ballast. Some bulbs do require you to change the ballast just make sure you ask before you purchase them. My bulbs are OEM OSRAM these work fine with our ballast.
I think the problem was with bulbs over 60k. Not the 60k's and lower.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dare_IL
I think the problem was with bulbs over 60k. Not the 60k's and lower.
Sorry if you didn't understand but thats what im talking about bulbs over 60k. I have 8000k on mine all the bulbs ARE 35 watts 60k 70k 80k 90k they take the same watts.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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8500K D2S and D2S

Sup guess, i dont know who said that they would burn up, because they all take the same wattage that is 35W and they run on the same ballasts that our cars come with , i have a 04 TL and a 2000 TL and i changed both the bulbs to aftermarket ones made by a company named globalprimere down in atlanta georgia. btw one uses D2S and one uses D2R type bulb, and both are 8500K, producing a very sharp blue tint. The beam patterns on both are the same. the link to the site is www.globalprimere.com, check them out, i think they just came out with the 9000K ones as well, later

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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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sorry guys this is the right link
www.globalpremier.com

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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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the only question is why would you want ot go higher ie.6000, 8000..ect... the higher in K you go the more light output you loose. the 4200k factory bulb is brighter than a 8000k
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
the only question is why would you want ot go higher ie.6000, 8000..ect... the higher in K you go the more light output you loose. the 4200k factory bulb is brighter than a 8000k

I guess some people enjoy the cool colors.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Yeah even 6000K u have less light than the stock 4300K.. but its ok, he's got HID fogs.. so that makes up plenty.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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I am not asking because I want to, I am asking to understand the theory and how it works. I want to know if it is possible and to clarify where it all started from.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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I remember reading on acura-tl that our ballasts support up to 6000k and not past that. Everyone just passes that info along, even I did until I have heard otherwise from others.... so now I am trying to sort it out.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I remember reading on acura-tl that our ballasts support up to 6000k and not past that. Everyone just passes that info along, even I did until I have heard otherwise from others.... so now I am trying to sort it out.

Like I said I've had them on for four months now and everything is perfect.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Thanks TypeSwork.... in the post u mentioned that u had 8000K.. but in your sig you have 6000Ks...
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Old May 14, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
Thanks TypeSwork.... in the post u mentioned that u had 8000K.. but in your sig you have 6000Ks...

LoL... Yeah I know I have to change that on my sig. I have the 6000k in my fogs and the 8000k as my headlamps. LAzy
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Old May 14, 2004 | 01:10 AM
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i have 8000k in my headlights also...stock ballasts and no problems...all that talk about not being able to put 8000k is horseshit and ppl only say that cuz they are too pussy to try it. it is the same 35watts as stock bulbs so why wouldnt it work.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by orcaatk
I'm pretty sure I've read threads from a while ago saying some people have burned up their wires and ballasts with bulbs above 6K. Don't quote me on that, but I want to say there were a few people who reported problems with a 6+K setup using stock components.
Going to a higher K means you have a beam of a different color spectrum than the stock bulbs, that's all. The higher the K's, the closer you are to the blue spectrum and the less whiter your HID's are. Our stock ones are actually the brightest. Going to a higher K just means you're making it look that you have cheaper bulbs, but will NOT get any better lighting. Many people seem to think that the bluer BMW, Lexus, Mercedes effect is the one to follow. IMO the TL still has the brightest ones out there. Even the 3rd gen TL seem to have a "dimmer" HID.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 07:08 AM
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Yeah, I know about the light color difference, but I do remember reading threads about people having issues. If they're wrong, then that's one thing - I never said it would cause problems, I said I've read threads where people reported problems. It's good to know, though, that people are running 8K's without any problems.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by orcaatk
Yeah, I know about the light color difference, but I do remember reading threads about people having issues. If they're wrong, then that's one thing - I never said it would cause problems, I said I've read threads where people reported problems. It's good to know, though, that people are running 8K's without any problems.


I definitely remember reading it and everything... and I don't recall anyone opposing that idea so I accepted it. Good to know. Thanks guys. If anyone has had problems speak up please
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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I purchase and just installed a pair of 8000k on my 03 TLS....I have to admit...the lighting isn't there as they were with the OEM parts....but I sure do love the blue tint. But the 6000k fogs make up the difference.

My friend just installed his set of 6000k and they are running just fine. I'll try to upload a picture of both...

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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Going to a higher K means you have a beam of a different color spectrum than the stock bulbs, that's all. The higher the K's, the closer you are to the blue spectrum and the less whiter your HID's are. Our stock ones are actually the brightest. Going to a higher K just means you're making it look that you have cheaper bulbs, but will NOT get any better lighting. Many people seem to think that the bluer BMW, Lexus, Mercedes effect is the one to follow. IMO the TL still has the brightest ones out there. Even the 3rd gen TL seem to have a "dimmer" HID.

Absolutely!!! only VISIBLE light of a spectrum is from Red (656nm) to violet (410nm), after that, it getting disappeared from our eye ball. Hence in terms of brightness, the stock HID is better than 6000K or lot more better than 8000K. My TL just installed 8000K bulbs, at night I can tell it is not as bright as I expect, but I like the color though.....
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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3G TL will on look dimmer if you are above the cutoff looking at the lens. I don't think that they are dimmer and do produce much better light distribution.

high k values are a double edge sword: 1. lower light output (lumens) and 2. your eyes don't process blue as well as they do white light (think of the primary colors, blue is 33% of white light) due to the receptors in your eye.

If you want the blue purple look, retrofit some oem projectors with the cutoff that produces a band of color.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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you could run any k color you wish, the only thing that the ballast does is changes the voltage from 12v to what the bulbs require, which is not a function of color. Color is produced by having different chemicals in the capsule.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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ive been using 8000k for about 1 1/2 now, NO PROBLEM at all.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I remember reading on this forum that our OEM ballasts only support up to 6000k HID bulbs.... and if we wanted anything higher like 8000k then we would need to get another set of ballasts.

Has anyone tested this idea and that is why we say that anything higher than 6000k we need new ballasts???
ive used a set of 8000's for a few months and i loved it with no problems what so ever. my friend handed me a set of 12k, but those were way too colorful for my taste. I've been using 6k's ever since (approx 5 months) now. everything working properly...headlights and fogs.
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