Shocker0316

Im not sure which temp to go with.....I have 8000k in one car but I think I want to try 6000k in my other...does anyone have pics of 6000k? or 8000k next to 6000k?

Rockstar21

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its whatever gets you goin

TLin401

6000K

mfgravely

Hey just to add my 2 cents i just bought my bulbs off ebay for 29.00 for a pair and i got 6000k and they killed my oem bulbs as far as brightness i cannot remeber who it was on ebay but they are from michigan, and it like metrodecals.com i think 29.00 no shipping and got it in 3 days and they worked great make sure you have a torx star #20 security bit to make changing them out easy..

01tl4tl

4300k is stock color-- on the Kelvin scale
5000k has more blue on the road but still lots of white light to see pothole and road obstacles etc.
6000k even more blue less white on road...I have them now and work good if you have poor night vision, really pick out the road markings and signs well

5000 is the best close to stock color and usefullness as far as seeing with them

01tl4tl

let us know how long those 30 buck bulbs last

Kaixen is a popular replacement from azine vendor Excelerate
always replace bulbs in pairs to maintain color output levels equal

BensTLS

I would go with 8000k bulbs. It seems most of the newer cars use 8000k bulbs. My

tegkid

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psh 3000k is the best hands down.

07HONDATL

i say 12000k..haha i have 12k and i think there great and really bright.. i bought them from queenz from a place called PROJECT JDM for 80$ a kit....thats my 2 sense though..but its ur car its whatever u prefer and like the best..

CJITTY

5000K...that will be next set. Pick them up from our great vendor XLR8 (Excelerate) in the black market..the bulbs have better design than the cheapo china made bulbs from what i understand

ZEUS'O3TL

5k ftw!!!!...

fsttyms1

No car uses more than 4300. 4300 is brighter (more useable light) than any other K. They are all 35w so they arent brighter.

OP. Dont go over 6k. I would personally stick with 4300 to 5k TOPS! Side by side stock the 4300 has better visability on the road than my 6k.

twistedwedge

Also those higher kelvin bulbs start to borderline on rice territory-you know- those fake "HID" blue halogens..

Rockstar21

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"30" dollar bulbs" can be found in the same brand as the $100 ones most of you buy

its just a matter of looking.

i've seen phillips bulbs dip down that low numerous times on ebay an other sites

and other cheap brands are a gamble. i agree on that. but cheaper doesnt always necessarily mean cheaper performance wise. i would hate to know i paid $220 for a set of bulbs when somebody else paid 1/4 of that and they lasted longer.

mestizoracer310

But I've seen different brands use different kelvin scales...like for instance brand a in 5000k is almost a 6000k in brand B... Also I've found a guy on Los Angeles craigslist that gets Onex brand bulbs (Japan built) for $95 for the pair in D2R.. Is that a good price?

Also on another site someone said that yellow/amber colored bulbs DO NOT HELP worth a damn in foglights...is that true for halogen only or does that also include 3000k HID bulbs?

ChrisQ1980

4300k no more than 5000k. If it's just a show car and not driven at night, then get any color as it would be for "show" anyway.

Bob_F

The bottom line is that 4300K bulbs put the most light on the road. They maximize visibility at night.

Going to higher Kelvin bulbs trades performance for color.

If you have to have some amount of color, I wouldn't recommend going any higher than 5000K.

So my answer to your 6000K or 8000K question is "neither".

6MTUA5

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+1 for 5000K Kaixen

Rockstar21

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trading off some performance for color on HID's is completely acceptable imo. except when you go overboard 10k and above is retarded, it distracts everyone else on the road

my accord runs off of regular halogen bulbs and they are safe being just that.. i could sacrifice half the light on my HIDs and still feel comfortable on the road, in the rain etc:

07HONDATL

well i have 12k and there not reatarded and they dont blind ne one. there are diffrent brands off hids ive seen ppl with 20K or 30K and those are just reatarded and way to bright and those blind ppl.. i dont like purple hids either i think there gay period..when i bought mine i went with 12 because i wanted alil white with a hint of blue and thats what i got there bright and i can see 10 times better with them then my stock halogens..so its all in a persons oppinion..i dont think any one wanting there car to look good with any color hid or k is reatarded..

basically shocker its your car put whatever u want on ur car everyone is gonna have mixed feelings about color and k and all this BS do what u want. whatever u like not what ne one else thinks..

Rockstar21

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4300 is white with a little blue, our stock bulbs have a blue tint to them.
secondly, nobody said they were bright or blinded anyone. not that they could because 12k is substantially a lower light output.

i said they distract.

and if you "12k" lights are white with a hint of blue.. somebody ripped you off.. b/c 12 k looks like this coming down the road

and i think buying bulbs that are completely blue and dont help you see at all that are not only illegal (which we're all guilty of at some point) but blatantly illegal and nobody gives a rats ass just HOW BLUE you can be. yea, i think thats retarded. and that is MY opinion. and just the same, i dont care for it and could care less what anyone else thinks

07HONDATL

i didnt get ripped of at all the 10k the store had were white just white and again i will repeat myself everyone and everystore has diffrent kelvins and diffrent hid brands. there not all the same my car HIDS are actually bright as hell for 12k that are SUBSTANTIALLY lower output my friend has 10k that he ordered from ebay and next to his car mine are brighter..and if u have 4300k thats great im happy for u..and the hids that ive seen that are completly blue and are a deep blue are no help to the road at all that i agree with.. but again ive seen many diffrent brands and colors..all depends on where u buy them i guess and peoples prefrence..but ne way i think mine are a nice color not to blue not to blinding..haha..although i have had ppl bright me couple times on the road to turn them off or soemthing i dont know what they were getting at maybe they just liked them giving me thumbs up..ROFL

Bob_F

Here's some excellent information on headlight Kelvin ratings:

http://intellexual.net/hid.html

bucsteve

i have been planning to change my bulbs also.....and from the looks of it 6000k has my attetion

ndjs

Kaixen 6000k here.

Rockstar21

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guess you dont get it...

from http://intellexual.net/hid.html

HID produces a natural color of 4100K to 6000K (4100K is daylight white, and 6000K is slightly bluish white) Anything bluer requires the use of light-dimming color filters

12k arent bright compared to lower kelvin ratings.. at all

my guess is your getting flashed b/c its looks.. whats the word, RETARDED

timberland73

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I just converted my wife's Impala SS to HID's with 6000k. It is the shit!

fsttyms1

And this is the mentality most have. They think "Blue" is cool. The purpose of HID's was not for the color but to put the best usable light on the road. It wasnt possible for halogens to get to that K.

bibledriver

Everybody wants blue because of the cutoff flare of the projection bulbs. I have modded projectors that look blue to oncoming traffic but run 4300k and I can tell you, they are brighter than even my 5000k. I love the color of my 5000k light output, but can see the light loss. 6000k is even more noticeable light loss. More than that and you will "look cool" and have to look hard to see well.
Truth is that above 6000k, you will fatigue your eyes when driving at night. What color do you see on the ground from the sun? 4300 or so. . . white with a tad of yellow.

5000k in mine and would only trade it for 4300k. keep the K low,

ArTL-S

It always amazes me that someone that has very little to no knowledge of how something works is trying to post a defense. If 12K was brighter and had more visibility then they would be stock in cars since they would obviously be safer.

Last time i checked Mercedes had the highest Kelvin output and i believe it was 5K. 4300K is the closest to natural light there is and hence the reason they come stock on most vehicles equipped with HIDs. I Promise you that if i put my TL with 4300K heads and 3000K fogs next to your ride my light output would far exceed yours. If not then your 12K bulbs go against every bit of science behind the kelvin scale and your bulbs are a modern day scientific mystery.

My suggestion to you is that before you come onto a forum with quite a few educated individuals when it comes to vehicles(esp. the specific ones we own) knowing what you are talking about and actually being able to make a valid point would help you out tremendously


OP- 4300K will give you the best output although 5000K is only a 7.3% light output decrease. when it comes to headlights i believe safety over looks is a good rule.

ArTL-S

here is an HID study guide i posted before


Color Temperature Explained:

Color Temperature: 3000K
3000K emits GOLDEN YELLOW color and offers superior penetration power during adverse weather epically in dense fog. The applications of the 3000K kit aim more towards secondary lighting apparatus such as high beam and fog lights. This is the color temperature that will catch all the attention on the road.

Color Temperature: 4300K
The light appears fairly white, and has light yellowish hue when reflected off the road identical to the OEM HID equipped vehicles. It is ideal for customers who does a lot of back road or canyon driving and need the optimal visibility.

Color Temperature: 6000K
6000K emits pure white light with very slight and barely noticeable tint of blue and purple. This color is for customers who is looking for pure performance white while improving the looks of their headlight.

Color Temperature: 8000K
ORACLE 8000K has an approximately 3000lm output, which is about 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 6000K. While it has a bit lesser light output, it emits bluer light than the 6000K.

Color Temperature: 10000K
ORACLE 10000K has an approximately 2800lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. 10000K produces a deep blue light output approaching violet and the blue is noticeably deeper than the 8000K.

Color Temperature: 12000K
This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is deeper colored than the 10000K. It is for customer who is looking for the most extreme and most exotic looking light output.

Common HID Misconceptions:

Higher the K (Kelvin temperature) the brighter it gets- Not True, the Kelvin Scale measures color not brightness. The brightness is actually inversely proportional to the light output. 4500K HID is technically the brightest and the further you increase or decrease from 4500K the lumens (visible light) will slightly decrease.







What is color temperature?

Many people believe that the higher the color temperature the brighter the lamp. This is totally wrong. The color temperature is purely a scale to measure the color of the light output. It is a reference purely for color and could equally be called White, Green or Blue. The reality is the higher up the scale the lamps are the less bright they become. 5200K lamps are approx 10% brighter (measured in Lumens, not degrees K) than the 7000K.

Degrees K = ONLY COLOR
Lumen= BRIGHT

"It should be noted that halogen technology is not comparable to the Xenon discharge technology, fitted as original equipment to more and more of the world's finest cars." - Philips

Definitions
Candela (cd)
The international unit (SI) of luminous intensity. The term has been in use since the early days of lighting when a standard candle of a fixed size and composition was used as a basis for evaluating the intensity of other light sources. This unit is used in measuring headlight output; basically the higher the number is, the brighter the light is.

Lumen (lm)
The international unit (SI) of luminous flux (quality of lights). For example, a dinner candle produces about 12 lumens and a standard 60-watt incandescent bulb produces 830 lumens. The higher the number is, the brighter the light is

Kelvin (K)
A basic unit of thermodynamic temperature (color temperature) used to measure the whiteness of the light output. The higher the number is, the whiter the light is. When over 5000K the light begins to turn to blue as daylight.


hope this helps you a little

Rockstar21

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i just posted against that mentality.

5-6k is limit for me because im not going FOR the blue thing, the headlights are just much more appealing when you get away from the yellow color.. i much prefer a whiter headlight, maybe with the slightest hint of blue

im ok with the output loss on a minimal level. otherwize its pointless to have HIDs.. but do they HAVE to be equal to the sun on the road at night? absoultely not

07HONDATL

what a bunch of tools..lol.

ArTL-S

feel free to leave at any time. The point of this forum and the knowledge on it is to help people make sound decisions with their money and vehicles. Feel free to go back where you came from where im sure people feel it necessary to run 12K heads and Fogs and put Vtec stickers on a car that everyone already knows has a Vtec engine in it.

tegkid

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3000k is brighter than 4300k.

ArTL-S

3000K is brighter but the light output is not as good as 4300K. The advantage to 3000K is its superiority in adverse weather. I have 4300k and 3000K and speaking from first hand use 4300K out performs 3000K in light output but loses when its gross outside. Good example when it is raining outside even with 4300K heads and fogs its still hard to see at times but the 3000K i have no problems in this same situation.

tegkid

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did you ever use the 3000k bulbs in your headlights?

i've used 4300k oem bulbs, 4300k aftermarket and 3000k aftermarket bulbs in the headlights and i was able to see best with the 3000ks in all weather conditions.

ArTL-S

I understand what you are saying. I have used both in my headlights and fogs and the best combo i came out with was 4300K heads and 3000K fogs but that will differ from person to person due to the difference in a person vision and stuff like that.

When i was speaking about output i was saying that 4300K is the closest K to natural light that people are used to using everyday so it would naturally be the K to go with. It is in fact not as bright as 3000K but the output of 4300K has been proven by scientific research of lighting temperatures to have the highest and most natural light output.

Im not saying you are wrong with what you said i was basing my post solely on my personal experience and knowledge gained from research and many nights of no sleep reading random crap on the internet

07HONDATL

umm i dont have VTEC decals on my car ne more plz dont make assumptions when u dont know what ur talking about and feel free to shut ur big mouth at anytime..i took those stickers off a while ago and was just something to try out and ud be surprised how many people tried telling me my car doesnt have VTEC..And theres alot of kids that feel it necesary to run 20 or even 30 k hids who are u to judge its there money they do what they want..

AND Again VVVV NO VTEC stickers

'03TL-S

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Any pics of your modded projectors?