DaveS221

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Could this be done? or am i making a fool of myself?

princelybug

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Anything's possible...but is it worth it? That's the real question.

friesm2000

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, i would say a fool, motor is too long (and tall i think), but as princelybug said anything's possible, just won't be easy though


and at least you recognise that it may be a stupid question to ask

Costco

all I'll say is WTF

how would you line it up? Transverse? Won't fit that way. RWD or AWD conversion somehow, maybe.

DaveS221

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but after crunchin helllllaaaa numbers on possible power outputs with different j engines and other car manufacturers engines an i think if you could make it fit without too much work, thats 2800 for a twin turbod car... that would be the same price after you put together a 6 speed an j35 after you installed them. so you add on 2800 plus installation. either way tho, your still gettin a twin turbod engine out of the deal that wud b puttin out 320hp out the box. plus this engine has such a greater potential for modding compared to the J.

Silva-type-s

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its possible but retarded

buy a GS with a 2J already a and put a 2J-gte in it so it will be all toyota..... never really been a fan of toyota powered honda's and nissan's

friesm2000

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yes alot easier power potential from the 2jz, but are motors, are proably just as capable, just we have not had as much loving from the aftermarket as the 2jz

and 2800 dollars , does that include the rest of the drive train too (rear diff), or even cutting out part of the firewall to make it even fit (let alone the lost passenger space you be losing too)

friesm2000

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that or an IS, for that 4-door sleeper look, but my tl is already making me broke , that would make me even more so (with the prices they like to charge for "lexus" parts)

DaveS221

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yea it includes the rest of the drive train but not for all the crazy shit that wud b needed done in order to make it fit.

fsttyms1

Put down the crack pipe. You got some bad stuff.

Rejckt

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eh, I'd give you a thumbs up for unique factor... but good luck with the $2800 + installation unless you do the custom fabbing yourself. It would probably cost the same as a j35 + a 6spd swap, if the 2800 included a transmission... and don't forget, a clutch + flywheel isn't cheap as well.

Also about potential, there are a few here who have done amazing things with the j series. IE: jproy with his mp90 and rajca with his build and even that guy with his nhra build ( that chopped up CL with flames)

Now I'm in no way saying any of this was cheap, but I believe I'm satisfied with my 6spd swap + ctsc w/ hbp and can't really ask for more... but I daily drive this car

friesm2000

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friesm2000

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be the best bet to even think about fitting a 2jz into our cars

281TL

anything could be done. if they can put a v8 in a a civic. why not this. im sure its prolly gonna cost more then a real supra though

Ep3moschini

Make it RWD with a 2jZ, its cake if you have fabrication skills. . . money. . . and uhhh. . . idk alot of time

DaveS221

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LOLOL nah man i dont mess wit that freebase

Silva-type-s

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fixed

DaveS221

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ok ok ok wut if sum1 got a good deal on a C32B? cud they make it fit more easily/realistically than the 2jz?

friesm2000

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yes, and more then likely

DaveS221

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hahahahahaha

Silva-type-s

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you will still have to do some cutting....... the c series sits at a different angle, so you'll have to cut and fab... your best bet is buying a supra or nsx

friesm2000

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out of like an NSX, if so, a wole lot easier, same basic layout as our stock motors, only thing i would say is the width of it might be an issue, but should be workable though

DaveS221

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yea but for now the engine is cheaper than the whole car, and if that could be pulld off, itd be bad as shit an you'd b the ONLY one with it done.

Ep3moschini

Id rather swap a Ford SHO Twin Turbo V6 into the car than an NSX motor. . . its gong to cost the same and 1 car would be faster than the other by a mile

Silva-type-s

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true, and the aftermarket parts exists for the C series but you're still going to need to make more room for mods and i dont think the c series was designed to haul so much weight. engines are created with weight and aerodynamics in mind

friesm2000

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the C series was in the RL till 04 though, and those are not exactly as aerodynamic as a NSX, or sporty ethier

but yes weight and aerodynamics, play a role in engine designs

but then you can also throw that out the window too, with how universial the J series motor has been for honda (yes there are different sizes, but still the same block, and basic components)

Silva-type-s

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the c series in the RL was created and tuned with the car's shape and weight in mind

friesm2000

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so you build the NSX's motor to be suited for the TL then(since he was looking for aftermarket support for them), be just a base motor to start off with

Silva-type-s

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if its from the NSX he'll have to do some cutting since its sits at a different degree. then the tranny mounts etc will have to be relocated.. the C series in the RL's are SOHC also if im not mistaken. if its an NSX C Series it can be done but with the heavy tl, i dont think it will be worth it...... the engine was sitting the middle of the RWD nsx for a reason..... even if you build it, i think it will be under more of a strain in a FWD front engine car which makes the entire swap a minimal gain im my opinion unless you reduce the weight of the TL

DaveS221

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so after seein 2jz's being swapped into s2k's i am convinced that they have to fit in the TL engine bay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPBQu...eature=related

this video makes me want one that much more. idc if my car didnt move at all b/c it was so heavy, as long as it sounds like that! shiiiiaaattttt

friesm2000

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as said above the width might be an issue of it actually fitting

and yes the money on the conversion be better spent towards a 6 speed and actually building the J series

sweet....., but you also gotta remember the s2000 has alot longer engine bay to start with plus the rwd already
also the engine bay taller too, the car is already starting with a inline engine which are taller then a V-series engine

also the s2000 has 4 cylinders inline to start with (so longer), then a v-6 which is only 3 cylinders long (shorter)

fsttyms1

Have you opened the hood on your car to realize that the motor sits the other way than in a supra and s2k?

02type-s

There is a lot more room for a bigger rwd platform in an S2K. They have even done LS1s in them, butfor the money you would have to put up to make it work, it wouldnt even be worth it. What rear end would you use? Custom driveshaft would be a must. I think you are drastically underestimating it.

assclown

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on to the next subject, after the 6spd swap, i'm going AWD

Vman159

^ lol good one

Costco

I'd be willing to bet a thousand dollars that this swap will never, ever happen. Twenty thousand dollars that the OP will not do it, short of winning the lottery and doing it just to spite me

...and a million dollars that he won't win the lottery!

DC3328

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this kind of thinking is what happens when you have a TL-P haha

DaveS221

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hell yea man i jus get bored with it.. its a slow car wen u think about it.

friesm2000

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try it when you are at altitude, even slower still

and still proably faster then a type-s at altitude, with you being at roughly sea-level

so STOP COMPLAINING

DaveS221

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ehhh i doubt a type-s would lose 40hp due 2 sum elevation. not like ur on everest, its just colorado. and i shall keep complaining until my tl-p can keep up with my friends Z's and evo's. Im gettin sick of bein left in sum dust n tire smoke.