mcottrell95

I'm new to the tl, and I've already had some fun with the tranny. Got the car 100k miles and got tranny rebuilt. I have a few questions about the tranny and motor mounts:

My tranny redlines if i floor it in first gear, and sometimes goes a little further to 6500. Is this normal? or result of the rebuild?

Would it needing mounts cause the engine to thumb a little when turning the car on and off, and occasionally when the gas is hit too hard from a stop?

Other than those two things the car rides beautifully and engine feels like brand new. Hope theres nothing to worry about!!

Skirmich

Are you redlining just after you got your trans rebuilt??? If so, Man you are doing it wrong... One of the basis of BREAK-IN is to settle the engine but that apply to the trans itself.

Stop redlining until you got like 500 miles on the trans or do so and kill some life on it.

And if you need mounts get them.. Any bump from the engine means = Dead Mount.

BetterBob

I'm new. But..

A slushbox (auto trans) should not allow a redline though..

Right?

It might slam and jam, but it should not allow the motor to hurt itself.

BetterBob

I have an idea. Don't put it to the floor unless you absolutely need to, or its really really fun.

and hold off on the fun.

Skirmich

Bob..
The trans isn't what allow to redline or not.. Its entirely ECU based.. If it wasn't limited the engine could very well over-red just like a manual why it doesn't? = Waste Power and Shift Time.

BetterBob

Skirmich,

Arguable, but yes. and i differ to you as the expert.

Skirmich

I am by no means an expert.. Just read a lot and plays with things.

fsttyms1

The ECU controls the shifting. The trans should shift just at the redline or just before the revlimiter. If you hit the revlimiter before it shifts its usually caused by a solenoid not allowing line pressure fast enough (though there are a few other things that could cause it)

fsttyms1

Technically the TL is fastest if you shift just as the needle hits the redline. If you gate shift right at the correct time it will shift just before it hits the revlimiter. It will also keep you in peak power in the next gear, especially from 3rd going into 4th where it usually just drops out of vtec momentarily

3.2TLc

Man, sometimes when ya get the itchin' urge of an overwhelming desire to just slam it to the floor, it's really difficult to refrain once
you're in motion. No potion or lotion, just pure adrenalin rushin', ya know it's hard to hold back!!! Never fear the commotion of the moment. .......

ErickUa5

When I got mines rebuilt it didn't want to take 5th gear, took a couple of miles then it was all good. Any lights on the dash, blinking D5 ?

A family member of mine rebuilt their accord tranny and does the same as yours when floored its definitely an issue with the rebuild.
Have you checked the fluid level ? maybe it was overfilled causing bubbles to form up in the trans.

Nicks2001tl

Welcome mcotrell95!

Your not the first to start off with a tranny question and won't be the last.

Ease up on your transmission until it breaks in and then figure out how well it shifts when you give it some juice.

And lastly get some motor mounts. A set on Ebay (front, rear, side, and two tranny) about a hundred bucks. Bad motor or tranny mounts can cause a whole lot of unexplained problems with your car.

mcottrell95

Thanks for all the responses guys. I have definitely been going easier on the car than i have been with previous cars. With this motor mount problem i have been very cautious before i can get it fixed.
I just felt the need to test it out while it was floored once or twice to see what i was dealing with and i was shocked to see it get up that high, 6600ish.
Since the rebuild, i have driven it about 300 miles mixed city and highway, and i have to say besides a little slipping from 2nd to 3rd, seems to have been done perfectly.... That is up until that whole redline thing

mcottrell95

Oh, and no blinking d5, that was fixed with the rebuild. I checked fluid level and looked good. thanks for the suggestion, would have never thought of it

BetterBob

Trans flush IMMEDIATELY.

A "little slipping" is cause for concern.

BetterBob

This.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=3

ErickUa5

Remember he's on a fresh rebuild it cant be the fluid unless it was overfilled.

Now do you know the correct way of checking the fluid?

By warming up the engine and shutting it off wait about a minute then pull the dipstick clean it with a clean rag then reinsert it and pull it now you'll be able to see the level, Is it between the 2 dots ?

If it is then its the trans. Hopefully your rebuilder is honest and doesn't just say everything is ok.

BetterBob

Ive always check my tranny wet and hot.

dirty reference not intended, but heavily implied.

3.2TLc

Just as a reminder to all....."FLUSHING" of the tranny is not recommended,
but the "Drain & Fill" method is the way it should be done for best results.

mcottrell95

I work at the dealer that did the rebuild. The tranny guy we have wouldnt do
That for that reason. Im going to check again later and ill post back the results. My main concern right now is getting the mounts done, if the tranny was done wrong, ill have to have the guy redo it

3.2TLc

Normally when the tranny is out, it's suggested to inspect and replace the mounts at that time if questionable.
This saves on labor effort and costs involved while everything's torn apart.

mcottrell95

Yeah, and they told me they would need replacing. They didn't just do it then, because there was an issue of time involved. Would rather not go into detail on that party though. I am just having trouble distinguishing between what problems are from the tranny, and what are from the mounts.

BTW. The tranny is overfilled. I drove it a bit, and noticed that it is very high on the dipstick. I am gonna drain it soon. Do you think that will solve the slipping?

3.2TLc

Sorta makes ya think that perhaps things were rushed and now causing issues !

Yeah, if you're sure that it's overfilled.....that can't be good, IMO. Unsure if that will resolve your issues ?

Make sure that ya check the fluid after the car's been operated and has been briskly ran through all the gears to bring the temp up. Then find a level spot to park the car and turn the key off. Check the fluid on it's dipstick....it should be within the top two indicator holes on the stick. If it's higher, drain about a pint out and then recheck after operating the car again.

mcottrell95

oops, i worded that wrong. The time involved was my time not theirs. The car was in the shop for a few weeks, and the tranny was done before they noticed the problem with the mounts.
Im bringing it in tomorrow and I'm getting the mounts done and having them drain the fluid and correct the problem. Ill keep you updated on how it drives afterward.

Thanks for the help!!!

mcottrell95

Update: Got my front and passenger side mounts done, the shop told me those were the only two that were bad. They also drained some ATF and the tranny runs a little smoother now. I still get a bit of a bump from the engine if i hit the gas too hard during a turn. Shouldn't that have been fixed by the motor mounts?

BetterBob

Bad C/V is all i can think of. but that doesn't really even make sense.

You still have a bad mount. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Edit: You don't have some junk rolling around in your trunk do you?

BetterBob

Rear mount, if I were to pass a guess.

mcottrell95

The car has 109k miles on it so im about to
Do timing belt. While its in the shop ill ask for them to
Check out the rear mount as well thAnks. Hopefully the both of those will do great things!

3.2TLc

Hey Mcottrell95, do both of ya still work at the same place ?